# Into the Lion's Den **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [August 5, 2012, 2:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315 "2012-08-05T14:21:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![seirian202](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8baadc/32.png) [@seirian202](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/seirian202)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 7:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/61 "2012-09-04T19:16:10Z")
Cool thanks! Will definitely give that a try! Got anything to give off more of a sexually charged vibe? Yeah I figured you were a Michiganian when you mentioned Meijer in one of your posts haha! ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2012, 10:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/62 "2012-09-04T22:30:14Z")
Younger gals respond best to social products, so the furthest sexual I would use is Ammo. Even then it is so-so. Even sexual products do nothing if you do not pull the trigger. IG is sexy, warm, charismatic and cool guy vibe. Easy can be sexual. At our age we already come off as horn-dogs, keep this in mind. You do not want to be another erection, you want to be THAT GUY. ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2012, 10:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/63 "2012-09-06T10:52:36Z")
Got my order in yesterday, and had an adventure with my sample today. **P102** I received TWO bottles of P102 as a sample and gave them a spin for a lesson I went to, not my own, but one I was learnign at. It was ofcussed on grappling takedowns. I used P102 before my lesson and noticed something. I had focus. Focus on sounds and sight. Everythig looked brighter and more focused. I learned a LOT better with this on. I figured out fairly quickly other paid more attention to me, looking at me, I had some intense eye contact. I decided to shelve this until I teach another substantial lesson in the belief it improves reception for lessons. Great place for it from my experience. ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2012, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/64 "2012-09-07T20:50:55Z")
Another **P102** test at work. I work very early morning some days and found myself driving with P102 on, it TRIPPED me out. I heard the radio better, I heard every heat to the songs and imperfection. The traffic lights also radiated an aura of light. Trippy. **MX390 and Ammo** I went ot the local hookah bar with my bud and it was kinda raining so the inside was full to the brim. The register gal locked eyes me me, smiled, and suggested I sat with her. Her boss is a buddy and he said he would kick people out to make me a seat, and he proceeded to do so, she pulled him in and said, “No, I kinda want him to sit with me. I think it is a good idea.” I did not, only she had a char, and although she could have sat on my lap, my buddy would have been an awkward third wheel. I then went to eat and had this kid try to be a dick to me. I FELT the Ammo as I was a lot less patient with hm. Normally I am cool as a cucumber especially when it comes to getting violent, it looks bad to get sanctioned to compete. But I got tunnel vision, did the stare down, and my heart started racing, I flipped my ‘fight’ switch. Not sure I like those self effects, but they were obvious., ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 5:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/65 "2012-09-08T17:58:19Z")
**Summer Ammo and NMX297** I went out with a red head today. An Irish lass who I met a couple weeks ago when I was smashed at a bar. Ha ha! I am glad I called her. She was better looking than I remember. I had a few mones with me, but I decided to run Summer Ammo and MX297 after I met her. She was a free spirit, always looking for fun type of gal. I have very limited experience with Red Heads so I thought it would be worth trying something new. I do no tknow what is was, but she was touchy-feely with me and was thossing compliments at me like a shotgun. The date ended well, wink wink. She ended up saying that she never does this sort of thing, especially during the day when her roomate could come home at any minute. Summer Ammo and MX297 is a super ice breaker, that is for sure. ---
**Author:** ![Apoplectic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/apoplectic/32/398_2.png) [@Apoplectic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Apoplectic)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/66 "2012-09-08T18:43:10Z")
I’m jealous dude, I’ve always had it in hard for redheads. How much of each were you wearing? ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/67 "2012-09-08T18:50:04Z")
Ha ha! I find when I drink, like I was at the bar with this lass, I begin to spew PUA stuff to EVERYONE. My friends call me awkward, the ladies love it! Old school push and pull just bleeds out. I found out she was a red head when I called her and asked who she was and how I programmed her number into my phone. Good times. Anyways, back to your question. [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) was three sprays, MX297 two. It worked swimmingly, like always. Enough Ammo to steer 297 away from being just friends into more. The P130 and IS in Summer Amnmo made me seem like the cool ‘guy’. When I met her I was wearing TuTh x1, P75 5.0 Mcg and IO x2. I was a sexual man who went after what he wanted that everyone wanted to talk to. ---
**Author:** ![Apoplectic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/apoplectic/32/398_2.png) [@Apoplectic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Apoplectic)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/68 "2012-09-08T19:03:53Z")
Right on. Compared to standard AMMO how strong is the smell of Summer AMMO? I’m asking because I don’t think I could bring myself to wear more than one spray of standard AMMO for fear of becoming that douchebag that always wears to much cologne that everybody knows lol.😃 Maybe next time I’ll order 2x so I can just wear 1 or 1.5 sprays. ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 10:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/69 "2012-09-08T22:52:10Z")
It is not as strong, more floral smelling if I recall. I honestly do not pay much attention to scents of things, had my nose broken a few times and most of the time I can only breathe out of one of side due to another break. Id check the [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) thread to find out. ---
**Author:** ![seirian202](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8baadc/32.png) [@seirian202](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/seirian202)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/70 "2012-09-10T21:20:32Z")
Cool will definitely try it though, I’ve already placed my order. As you can tell I’m super new to this, so would it be ok if I asked you about any questions that may arise regarding the mones here from time to time? ---
**Author:** ![Damage\_Control](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/damage_control/32/1059_2.png) [@Damage\_Control](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Damage_Control)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 12:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/71 "2012-09-11T00:09:38Z")
> [@KIMBA](#): > > **Summer Ammo and NMX297** > > I went out with a red head today. An Irish lass who I met a couple weeks ago when I was smashed at a bar. Ha ha! I am glad I called her. > > She was better looking than I remember. I had a few mones with me, but I decided to run Summer Ammo and MX297 after I met her. She was a free spirit, always looking for fun type of gal. I have very limited experience with Red Heads so I thought it would be worth trying something new. > > I do no tknow what is was, but she was touchy-feely with me and was thossing compliments at me like a shotgun. > > The date ended well, wink wink. She ended up saying that she never does this sort of thing, especially during the day when her roomate could come home at any minute. > > Summer Ammo and MX297 is a super ice breaker, that is for sure. Good stuff KIMBA 😉 I tried [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) last night (2x) and 5mcg of TUTH. I didn’t get anything out of it but I’m not initiating anything at the moment because things are still a bit fragile. I’m sort of alternating between sexual and trust. Don’t want to mix the two up too much at the same time until I get my next order in. I need to start toning down the ENONE and ERONE down over the next few days because this Sunday she may get irritable… 😃 Then we’ll see how well MX412 really does… Plus I’ll be trying MX279 then and maybe IH and P74 in combo. If these help they’ll be in my next order for sure (they’re already pencilled in). ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 9:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/72 "2012-09-11T09:40:41Z")
I read your journal bud. I find 297 can be a fun friendly guy vibe who is funny. Its a super social. Id use it to keep things light and fun, so if things get serious, it should help you out. ---
**Author:** ![jazzysax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbe5ce/32.png) [@jazzysax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jazzysax)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 11:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/73 "2012-09-13T11:19:07Z")
where did you apply these? ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/74 "2012-09-13T16:39:11Z")
297 is on arms. I love 297 for high energy events. The reason is because it makes you fun and friendly, you stant out. I love it. ---
**Author:** ![andoboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@andoboy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andoboy)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/75 "2012-09-13T19:13:37Z")
Great journal! How do you think [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) would do with IO or IH for younger 19-21 year old girls? ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/76 "2012-09-13T19:38:23Z")
It would be great. [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is a slower building attraction molecule I find, much like Regular Ammo. P130 helps out immensely for younger women, and so does TAA, which are both in Summer Ammo. IO helps you slide into conversation easier with women, and IH gets you deeper into conversation. Id stick with IO to help you ease into conversation. Remember to approach women, this combination makes it easy to dive in, but you still need to open. ---
**Author:** ![andoboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@andoboy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andoboy)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 8:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/77 "2012-09-13T20:54:33Z")
I am comfortable with this person and we speak regularly-- good friends in fact, but not friend zoned just yet (fairly new relationship). I am looking to build attraction. Will the summer ammo do it in your opinion, or will it be more effective with IH added? In your experience is [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) a good thing to use here? Also, how many sprays have you seen best results from? By the way, keep up the good work. The martial arts updates are as interesting to me as the journal its self XD (I love BJJ and Judo) ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2012, 9:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/78 "2012-09-13T21:13:59Z")
Fellow grappling enthusiast! I have been boxing a lot more. I am working with a well known fighter on his boxing so not as much grappling these days. A connection is the most important part of getting a relationship, so IH, one on each forearm rubbed together is optimal. I would use one spray on your chest and one on your neck fo [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). It is a sexual vibe, you still need to steer it b taking action. But with the Ammo and IH you have a good vibe about you to easily get things going. ---
**Author:** ![seirian202](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8baadc/32.png) [@seirian202](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/seirian202)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 7:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/79 "2012-09-17T19:47:20Z")
Ok so I just got my new pheromones in the mail today (IH, IG, and P83) and I’m excited to get started as there is this really hot girl that sits next to me in my class, we talk and I used the little knowledge that I have of PUA on her but I’m hoping that these mones will aid me in my quest. So, I was wondering, about how much of each would you recommend? ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 9:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/80 "2012-09-17T21:33:49Z")
IG is a softer man vibe, charismatic and virile. I would without a doubt use that as your base. I would use two, just on cologne strength, I find iut a good point. I would add IH and IO when you see her later on, on a date or when alone. 83’s disinhiting ability is great for date two/three when you get her alone and things could heat up. IH is for deeper connection. Trust and a connection is something key, but in school odds are you will come off too serious. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315.md?page=3) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315.md?page=5)