# Into the Lion's Den

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [August 5, 2012, 2:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315 "2012-08-05T14:21:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![seirian202](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8baadc/32.png) [@seirian202](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/seirian202)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/81 "2012-09-18T18:14:01Z")

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Well the combo of IG and IO worked pretty amazingly, she started the convo with me today instead of the other way around and she even seemed to be trying to keep it going even when I wasn’t really.

Things went horribly wrong after that though as I text her and said that she would be my new “Allocated accounting mate”, she text me back and seemed amused and then I said that I needed a study date with her for an exam that’s coming up and she never responded!

In short, I do believe that I may have failed which does sadden me cause I was decently excited about her but I guess at the very least I got some experience with mones!

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**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/82 "2012-09-18T23:12:00Z")

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Good mone hit, so so game.

Never ask for a date, tell her you two are going to study together.

And asking in person is huge, or atleast have a conversation or two via text before you ask her out to establish you are a real person.

Still, nice results.

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**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/83 "2012-09-19T21:20:56Z")

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Journal has been sporatic, I know.

I had a rough couple of weeks at work and in the gym. I picked up a new high level student, and have been working with him religiously via phone and email, as I cant be their in person. It has been a huge growing experience.

I had a mental hang up in boxing, I never went 100%, and I did today with a high ranked middle weight friend and finished him in the fourth round. Insane feeling and very uplifting, I feel like a weight has been lifted from my shoulders, a mental block.

I had a fight offer for this weekend on one week notice for my title, and found out a couple hours ago that the organization told some team mates in Chicago I was on the card and offered them all short notice fights before I declined.

I am tempted to take the fight on two days notice. I was told saturday, I declined and they locked in friday.

My last promotion was shady, holding most fights on Indian reservations and unofficial, but this one is insane. I am more than tempted, I am fairly confident I will be driving to Chicago friday night, competing, driving back to Michigan and be at work at 3 am.

, shoiuld be at Jesh, I compete at 170, should be at 155, and my opponent is at around 200 now as of monday. He is on the card with a to be announced opponent.

I smashed their last champ and this guy is a brawler who lost to the last champ. Good boxer, wide on powerful hooks, but that it. Evolving wrestling, so thats a toss up but my clinch and bottom game is top notch.

I have ramped up strength and conditioning and been doing full boxing spoarring like I was in training camp, just not watching my weight, around 180. Odds are my opponent CANT make weight, so I will take a portion of his fight money unless I decide to not dehydrate myself.

Wow, that is a lot of venting! Ha ha.

TO THE JOURNAL.

I have been working on my PUA weak areas, which is approaching and story telling. Two nights ago, I belive, I was having an off day with my buddy and we went to eat.

Cute waitress, I sat down before my bud got to the table and I started chatting her up. Open body language, we were laughing. He had to pry her away from his seat to sit down at out booth.

She then started standing next to me brushing against me,. We chatted more, and she said we were the most polite guys im the diner ever at midnight, and she teased me about that fact and we are their a couple times a week.

I dropped a funny one about I had to be nice because she looks like the shady type who spits in peoples food if they do not tip.

We played a bit, I teased, my buddy said he was taken. I dropped a story how I got slammed with a new student, but it is ok because I love the challenge. Its a story I have been working on for Comfort/Qualification in PUA.

I ended up getting her number and to hang out when she got out of work, so my buddy bounced and I went back to her place to hang out. And hang out we did.

I wore [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) 5.0 mcg and MX 297 along with one sporay TUTH.

Great success.

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**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 9:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/84 "2012-09-20T21:26:15Z")

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Went to the diner I pulled the waitress from with the guys tonight. Wore [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) x3 and TuTH. I walked in and my lady turned her head to me and called me her homeless car man. We started banter from a conversation the other night at the diner.

I called her a creeper for remembering all those details, she said it was ok, she had “SUPER MEMORY” and her co-worker said she did not, and to watch myself, playfully.

My buddy said loudly, “She wants it!” I laughed, she blushed and asked if we could sit in her section, another waitress said it was her turn and I playfully said their was enough of me to go around.

After a short quarrel my girl lost the table, but keep checking up on us, so we bantered back and forth and I asked her if her co workers knew about our secret romance in italy. We did a FAP and had a lot of fun with it. She ended up saying no, that her boss does not like girls to date customers. I assured her we were not dating, we were just special friends. And she gets to wear a shiny helmet and gets picked up for school.

As we were leaving she came up and asked me when we were going to hang out again. I said I had to dip out of town for the weekend and I would be free only Sunday, and she said it would be a date.

For my type of interaction, MX297 is killer.

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**Author:** ![rohitiyer10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ad7895/32.png) [@rohitiyer10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rohitiyer10)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 10:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/85 "2012-09-20T22:30:42Z")

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Nice report… real quick though, wtf is a FAP lol

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**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 11:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/86 "2012-09-20T23:16:09Z")

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FAP is a future adventure projection, like role playing in the future or planning a fun weird future date.

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**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2012, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/87 "2012-09-22T23:44:27Z")

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I competed in Chitown last night. Round one KO. Great time, but had my ex crawling all over me after the win, had to turn her down, no mones.

Went out tonight with 390 and Ammo 3x each.

Went to a bar with some guys, started playing with the waitress and she gave me a look and said she thought she knew me, and turns out she did. I slept with her about six months ago. I declined and chatted her up more, she was 19 and the high none turned her off, and oin, and off, to me. She eventually settled her attention on my buddy and gave us all her facebook and my buddy asked for her number.

She invited us back for a group date when she was working. I dont think so, ha ha! It was an awkward night.

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**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 8:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/88 "2012-09-26T08:08:53Z")

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My journal has been a tad lacking focus and attention, but as of this week my mom passed away. It was a very sudden passing, that shook my core. I feel a hollowness that cant be described. I am 21 and now have to pay for a funeral and handle all of the logistics of this, which is over whelming.

I cant muster up the personality to wear mones or game, let alone go out much. It would help, but I cant do it often.

With my buds my personality has changed to more ‘badass’ and man like. I seem mysterious and intriguing. The loss shifted my personality a bit, so I need to re-test everything.

I want to pick up A314 now, I feel I would match its signature now.

In about 3 months (As chash allows, I hope I have it by then) I plan to pick up A314, and the test molecules (TAK, TAC, ect) to do further testing.

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**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 8:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/89 "2012-09-26T08:28:12Z")

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> [@KIMBA](#):
>
> My journal has been a tad lacking focus and attention, but as of this week my mom passed away. It was a very sudden passing, that shook my core. I feel a hollowness that cant be described. I am 21 and now have to pay for a funeral and handle all of the logistics of this, which is over whelming.
> 
> I cant muster up the personality to wear mones or game, let alone go out much. It would help, but I cant do it often.
> 
> With my buds my personality has changed to more ‘badass’ and man like. I seem mysterious and intriguing. The loss shifted my personality a bit, so I need to re-test everything.
> 
> I want to pick up A314 now, I feel I would match its signature now.
> 
> In about 3 months (As chash allows, I hope I have it by then) I plan to pick up A314, and the test molecules (TAK, TAC, ect) to do further testing.

Geez, so sorry to hear that man, a friend past away beginning this year, he was quite young, took me at least 3 months to get over it, I wouldn’t test or wear heavy mones and keep it light, maybe take a break. Hope you’ll be well!

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**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2012, 8:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/90 "2012-09-26T08:36:23Z")

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> [@still18](#):
>
> Geez, so sorry to hear that man, a friend past away beginning this year, he was quite young, took me at least 3 months to get over it, I wouldn’t test or wear heavy mones and keep it light, maybe take a break. Hope you’ll be well!

Thanks bud. I have lost a few friends (I am from Detroit and coach inner city kids now) and know that pain well. Its not easy, and I sorry to hear about your loss. If it was a close friend, you always think about thinngs you would do with that person when you are not, and it eates at you.

My mom and I were not close, a bit of issues in the past. But, this pain and agony is a level I cant describe. I am considered a rock by my family in situations like this and at times I lose my composure it really shakes those around me due to the magnitude of what I am feeling.

Ha ha! I am getting deep here. I want to continue to do mones because I do not get over loss until I focus on other things, and it is too rough for me to focus in the gym when I have emotions going, it is not safe.

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**Author:** ![romancetoday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6a8cbe/32.png) [@romancetoday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/romancetoday)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 9:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/91 "2012-10-01T09:14:16Z")

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> [@KIMBA](#):
>
> **PLEASE POST ANY QUESTIONS NOR COMMENTS. I LOVE TO HELP OUT!**
> 
> I’d first like to apologize because my typing, and subsequent spelling is atrocious. I have wicked carpal tunnel and by time I get to a computer my hands are fried. This will be my journal with as much information as I can recall. My posts may not always be frequent and I will post when I mix something up or try something new. I will give my thoughts on products as I use them. I hope to help others will my research.
> 
> I am 21, white, a tad chunky (Well, for my profession), always warm (Stuff diffuses easily) and 5’11.
> 
> If any experienced users want to chime in with thoughts or suggestions, be my guest! 😃
> 
> I would also like suggestions as to what to try next and what results to expect. Some things I cant try due to work. ☹
> 
> \*\*List of Test-Proven Mix’s:
> 
> \*\*1. Ammo and Instant Shine (1:1)
> 
> This is a staple. You buffer Ammo (It is well rounded but a little buffering helps) to make you stand out and ‘glow’ so t speak.
> 
> 1. MX297 and TuTH (2:1)
> 
> Two sprays to one Spray. The small amount of TuTH balances out the friendly vibe of Mx297. 297 is an amazing product which is a staple which everyone must try. It is the social vibe. The none of Ammo does not work with 297 for me, so do not waste your time.
> 
> 1. P75 and MX297 (5mcg:1 Spray)
> 
> Just like 297 and TuTH, this steers you into the correct direction after being social. TuTH can repel sensitive, younger and asian women, so P75 works well if that is your demographic.
> 
> 1. IG and IH/IO and IS (1:1:1)
> 
> This is a money mix for young ladies. Instant Gentleman makes you come off as a warm and charismatic person, Instant Openness or Instant Honesty helps conversation flow and Instant Shine makes you appear to be that guy. You are high status and fun. You can use both IH and IO but I tend to go with what I need. If I am in an environment that I know opening is an issue, I use IO. If I know that I cant relate, I will use IH to deepen a conversation. I cap off at two sprays of each.
> 
> 1. P75 + P83 + Mx 297 (5mcg : 20 mcg : 2 Spray)
> 
> This is an interesting mix. P75 and Mx 297 combo works well, this will steer things quicker than the previous mix. If gets you rooted as a friend and P75 slowly creeps you into being a lover while touching is already established. It is a money mix if you want younger ladies or to get out a friend zone.
> 
> 1. Ammo x2 + MX 290 x2 + IS x3
> 
> What can I say besides MONEY. It hits hard and fast It is the rockstar sex vibe. Best 297/390 mix out.
> 
> 7: IH + P 74 + TuTH
> 
> This mix is a ratio of two sprays of IH, 15 Mcg of P74 and one spray of TuTH. It is my “I am your best friend you have a crush on, and am a stud in the sack” mix. It gets you into comfort instantly, and if you know how to build attraction it is amazing.
> 
> 1. Evolve XS + IS + IO
> 
> Evolve XS is an updated MX 301. The age bar can be up between 30 and 40 most of the time, and is optimal at one or two sprays over an entire day. To lower the age bar I buffer with two sprays of IS and one IO. Evolve is well buffered as is, and packs 20 Mcg of None so it is a great product as it does not ghost, but I like it a bit softer still.
> 
> * * *
> 
> First day of **Summer** Ammo!
> 
> - Wearing: Summer Ammo.
> 
> I got my summer Ammo early this week and wanted to give it a couple test drives, solo.
> 
> I wore it to work, got zero hits off of two sprays. More overtly, I noticed distanced, which is the opposite of normal Ammo for me when paired with IS. It appears that Summer Ammo does not fit my body chemistry.
> 
> This was a ghosting like effect.
> 
> - Wearing Summer Ammo.
> 
> I gave Summer Ammo two more chances which I will roll together. I wore it to Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Class (BJJ) and to a typical evening chill spot my buddy and I go to, a hooka lounge.
> 
> In BJJ class I am well known. To keep it short and sweet, I have a brown belt in BJJ and got up to blue from a legend in the sport, who is known for his strong man aggression style of Gracie Jiu-Jitsu. I also cross train in a forms of grappling from Japan and have a Judo background so I am unorthodox and dangerous.
> 
> People have a love hate relationship with me. I either dominate quick or loss when trying something stupid out for the first time. I am a great instructor but I am frustrating to deal with. I figured this is a perfect spot for Summer Ammo to lessen the mood and help with the ladies in my class.
> 
> It back fired. Zero hits and distance, off of one spray. Oh well, I finished my lesson and still gave it another go.
> 
> At the hooka lounger my buddy was even distant. One spray gave me ghosting effects it appeared. Very strange. I decided to put it away for quite some time and approach it later.
> 
> * * *
> 
> **MX297** with a chance of rain.
> 
> I am getting near a large fight and am very tense. I am returning from a year lay off and a loss, and had an opponent switch. I needed a social boost so gave this bad boy a spin.
> 
> - At hooka lounge:
> 
> I gave this bad boy three sprays on my neck to chill in a neutral environment. Loads of young girls hang out their so I do zero approaches their any more, finding out a girl is 17 happens far too frequently. :o
> 
> I was completely self amused and had a grin from ear to ear. I may have gotten hits but I was over-joyed. Some guys I knew came up and asked about my fight and I was relieved of all stress and was excited to talk about it.
> 
> - Post Office
> 
> Two sprays this time. I was till cheerful and happy but not overtly. I missed that PheroRush.
> 
> I got my fair share of tens coming into the post office. But their is a 19 year old girl who is my type. a solid 8, cute, Albanian, 5’6, dark brown eyes and very shy. I am a sucker for shy girls.
> 
> She is waiting in a long twenty minute line and I decide top up the spray to a third, I thought it was my sweet spot. I duck down, spray it on, and when I get up (Maybe 15 seconds) she was at my counter. She had this gigantic heavy box and was all flustered. After some chit chat I discovered she works at a magazine. She was getting antsy about her boss needing her back at work so I had to work fast, I started on the box and it literally weighed 65 pounds. I could barely lift it and I work out all the damn time. I tease her about the box, she tells me its nothing because she is training for the Olympics.
> 
> She started mirroring me, blushing, and I wished the counter was not blocking me, or touching would have been going. I didnt have my phone, so I asked for her number and she said that I should come meet her for lunch at her work next week instead. I have done an insta date, but never had it done to me. It was pretty bad ass. 🆒
> 
> A couple hours later a mid 20’s blonde woman waits for me to wait on her rather than the older ladies I work with. It happens quite often as at work a warm, charismatic smile with a tone of sarcasm and flirtation. It works wonders with mean customers.
> 
> Any who, She is my height in flats, which means she is reakishly tall. Great looking. She opened my up and starting flirting with me. This happens slightly less often. We starting chatting and she gives me a $100 to pay for her bosses stamps. I ask her how she wants it back, and she says surprise me. With a grin I spout out that she should be careful what she asks for because I am about to give her a dozen rolls of nickles. She laughed, blushed, and went into a story about her childhood. It was something to the effect that she used to pay for her lunch in pennies as she hated a lunch lady, she later met the lunch lady and feels bad about it.
> 
> It was a weird and candid story. She ended by saying that she deserves the change how ever I give it to her. I took the interaction no where, I knew I’d see her again and I have gotten my boss angry more than once for spending a long time on specific customer. 🙄
> 
> - House party.
> 
> I will keep this one short, dont drink with MX297. It makes you get hammered much quicker. Horrible idea.
> 
> * * *
> 
> **P83**
> 
> I paired this bad boy with everything but will high light my solo favorite mix.
> 
> It works great with everything. Its a touchy-feely molecule.
> 
> - Post Office
> 
> I decided to wear three normal Ammo and one 20mcg spray of P83. My first hit was a co-worker who is in her 40’s, distance, and a tad racist walks by me, stares at me and yells out, “WHO HAS ON ALL THAT STRONG PERFUME?!” I asked her if it was me, she shook her hair and I turned around to keep working. I soon felt a cheek on my neck, a hand on my bicep and another on my waist. The woman whispered into my ear, "You dont smell bad at all.
> 
> That was weird. I keep getting hits from older ladies all day, it worked like a charm. I decided to put this mix away, by demographic is younger.
> 
> - Free Introductory Grappling Lesson
> 
> As part of my private lesson service I teach small group private lessons out of local gyms. I have a decent client list and work with a King of the Cage Champion now and when I travel to Chicago I have privates lined up for more notable professionals. I still like to net-work just in case I ever open a gym and to help a buddy who runs a gym. I get him a getter handle on what people need and I elevate their game.
> 
> Anyways, I always have a mix of about three guys and two girls. Guys normally go directly on my waiting list after seeing me practice or sparring with me. I do slots based on what I want to teach and charge based on how hard it is to teach and practice. Being a Judo throw dummy costs more than me helping you work on normal BJJ, as an example.
> 
> I decided to wear A314 Oil and P83 to my group lesson. I kjnew I was working with a lady who was only coming to the lesson because she was interested in me, she does sport BJJ and always places well at her competition, I specialize not in pure BJJ, I direct those students to a gym I trust and get them a discount. She knows this as well.
> 
> Athletic, flexible, and attractive without make-up. Fun and one of the guys. I start the lesson with basic/commons take-downs and how to do them correctly, then various stances for striking and no striking. I then find out what each student needs with solo sparring and bunch off students and have my coach supervise as I rotate to different students.
> 
> The guys were even more touchy, and less focused on learning which reduces quality. I hated that and decided to never use P83 at a lesson again.
> 
> I got to my target, the fun athletic girl. She tried to take me down, she failed but managed to place her hand on my ass and ankle, to do an ankle pick take down, hand on ass was not needed. I grab he arm and pull her into my guard on the ground (In between my legs) and I got her into a triangle choke instantly, she a smile, she slipped her arm by her chin, which was directly between my legs and she started rustling my cup. I switched to an arm bar, she tapped out and we reset. She went beta and touchy every time. This is a great mix for horse-play, but for teaching.

What about IS with [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/)…have you tried or know the results?

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**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/92 "2012-10-01T20:27:55Z")

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I love the super quote.

I have tried [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) and IS.

P75 is slow burning which I love with with IS to ease an opening with a gal and to slowly bui.d sexual tension.

I feel it is like “This guy is special, something about him makes me want to stick around him”.

I found two sprays of IS per 2.5 P75 is good to not come off too strong.

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**Author:** ![romancetoday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6a8cbe/32.png) [@romancetoday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/romancetoday)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 12:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/93 "2012-10-06T00:19:44Z")

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> [@KIMBA](#):
>
> I love the super quote.
> 
> I have tried P75 and IS.
> 
> P75 is slow burning which I love with with IS to ease an opening with a gal and to slowly bui.d sexual tension.
> 
> I feel it is like “This guy is special, something about him makes me want to stick around him”.
> 
> I found two sprays of IS per 2.5 P75 is good to not come off too strong.

You mean [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) can also come too strong? What is the effect of P75 when it is too strong?

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**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/94 "2012-10-06T20:27:07Z")

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You can OD on [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/), I find aggression. I would stick with a lower dose out of personal experience.

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**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2012, 9:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/95 "2012-10-07T21:19:14Z")

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Went out for some Day and Night Game. In Day IG, P83 and IO. Approached a girl, my perfect type. Brunette, petite, 5’ 6’', glasses, slight tan, 21, mmmmmm…mmmmm…

Got her to leave a mall, drive us to a pub, drink a bit, and get a solid kiss close.

I then went out with [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/), P75, and some other attraction mix, got a number rejection due to a boy friend.

I am going to attempt to go out during the day more and feel that IG/IO/83 are clutch and my new signiture.

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**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2012, 8:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/96 "2012-10-08T20:35:27Z")

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I love 83, IO and IG during the day. You know it works when an abnormal amount of people approach you.

Went out with 7.5 [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/), and four sprays 297, and got pretty good hits, it tempered the aggressive vibe of 75.

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**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 7:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/97 "2012-10-16T19:48:19Z")

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I have been running a lot of 297 and 390 and have discovered it works best on white women, and loses a lot of efficacy on anyone else.

Switching it out for only when I know I will be around that type of women.

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**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2012, 8:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/98 "2012-10-24T20:23:33Z")

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Finally ordered more A314 and it seems I am back into the swing of things after my mom’s passing. I hope to get some unique reports up soon.

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**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2012, 8:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/99 "2012-11-02T20:36:39Z")

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I have been doing some deep testing of A314, and let me say, WOW.

What I have accomplished:

- Less forced overtime because I said I did not like it.
- Vip treatment from strangers
- Old friends and co-workers treat me with new found respect
- Instant center of social group

And so much more. It is great.

Will continue to do more testing and report in!

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**Author:** ![aviph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b4bc9f/32.png) [@aviph](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/aviph)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 4:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/into-the-lions-den/56315/100 "2012-11-27T16:56:35Z")

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> [@KIMBA](#):
>
> **2x P130 + 2x TuTH + 2.5 mcg P75**
> 
> This was a bad idea, and I knew it. I was going out last night with two old friends and we had plans to chill at a hookah bar, go to a bar and eat.
> 
> We went to the hookah bar and I got ghosting from most people. I did get respect from guys I started an interaction with.
> 
> Ghosting from ladies at this location.
> 
> We then go to a sport bar,. A cute bartender was normally flirting with us to drum up business.
> 
> I had an lady about 30 come up to the bar to get something and she pulled the seat next to me and began to to just glance over every once in a while. I turned around and got huge IOI’s. We chatted a bit, until her ‘man’ walked up. He took issue with a young guy macking on his woman. He pulls her away.
> 
> I soon found myself talking to the bouncer as he asked what happened with that guy. I explained the situation and the bouncer (Small dude) offered to kick himn out if it was interfering with my night. I declined.
> 
> We then went to play pool and these girls were gawking the table, but I took it from them. One gal tried to start something but I chatted my way out of it, and they ended up playing with us. The ‘Alpha’ female was hooked on me like white on rice the rest of the night.
> 
> We went to eat with them and our waitress brought out our food in about 5 minutes. Was very attentive, but selectively with me. It actually bothered some of the people I was with.
> 
> I soon went home. Not my house, but home.
> 
> I find that when the TuTH does stick, P130 allows you not to work as hard, it makes you relaxed so she takes the initiative. Great results with this blend. The P76 made me more attractive as a man, not sexually. It balanced out well.

Hey Kimba, I’ve been reading your journal and absolutely love it! it has taught me a lot about pheromones in the past few weeks.

I got P130 and P75 from AD not too long ago and have really taken a liking to each one because of the “no self-talk” selfeffects and reduction of anxiety of each but I am confused about this post because u start off saying “i knew this was a bad idea” but the post sounds like this mix worked well for u besides the ghosting.

So i guess my question is: Did P75 + P130 work well together and would you recommend it or not?

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