# Intro! **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [July 18, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/intro/30802 "2009-07-18T18:47:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![smithy33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@smithy33](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smithy33)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/intro/30802/1 "2009-07-18T18:47:57Z")
Just a quick intro from myself: Male, 20 years young, live in England. I stumbled across this forum looking for aftershave and spent a few sceptical days glued to my computer lol! Anyway curiosity has got the better off me and I want to try these products for myself. I have two main interests: Rational science and women and like to think of myself as pretty competant in both disciplines lol. Anyway combining the two sounds like an ideal new hobby. The things i’ve read on these forums have really put my past experiences into context and I’m eager to learn and contribute. I’ll be sure to post again soon with a bit more detail about my aims. P.S. I’m hankering for a gift certificate before I place my first order, was this enough lol? ---
**Author:** ![msselva](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/msselva/32/943_2.png) [@msselva](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/msselva)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 7:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/intro/30802/2 "2009-07-18T19:33:43Z")
Hello smithy! Welcome to the forum buddy! Nice to have more members on board! LOL funny intro, well it’s okay to be skeptical. I used to be very skeptical too until I tried some stuff out and got all addicted. Get yourself some to-gos first and see if you like them before investing on bigger bottles if you’re unsure 🙂 Can you tell us more about yourself though? There are so many products here, if you tell us what kind of reactions or self effects you’re looking for it may help the guys and girls suggest you products that might meet your expectations Are you shy? you looking for something sexy? to arouse your woman? something to make people open up? make things more intimate?..etc. I hope it helped for now and will be back once you’ve updated you post a bit 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mco-gnv](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mco-gnv/32/229_2.png) [@Mco-gnv](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mco-gnv)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/intro/30802/3 "2009-07-18T19:55:04Z")
Hey there smithy, welcome to the forum! That was a good intro, but can you tell us about yourself so we can better recommend the best products to fit your needs? What do you plan to achieve with [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/)? Attraction/ Social/ Work? Shy or outgoing? Ect, ect. Supplying this will also get you qualified for the $25 gift certificate! If you have any questions let us know, we are here to help! Best of luck, -mco; ---
**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/intro/30802/4 "2009-07-18T20:30:33Z")
Hi smithy, welcome to the forum. I think we were all skeptical in the beginning, but we’re still here, and now we’re hooked. These products work and they work well. But you’ll never really know until you try it for yourself. Are you looking simply to improve your game, attract more women? Or do you have a target in mind? Have you given any thought to self-effects? Some of the products here boost your confidence, or serve as a mood lifter. Ammo is a good place to start, it is an androstenone based phero that is very attractive to the ladies. It sends out the message that you are interested, and it is sexy, suave, charming. [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) will help to get the conversations flowing, so if you’re looking for more opportunities to connect this would be a good choice too. Glad you’re here, hope to hear what you chose. ---
**Author:** ![smithy33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@smithy33](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smithy33)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 11:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/intro/30802/5 "2009-07-18T23:52:19Z")
Thanks everyone for the welcome 🙂 I find i’m in a strange situation where women are concerned, i’ll try and explain. Women have allways seemed attracted to me on a very short term basis. I’ve never really had a proper girlfriend, but countless one-night stands, make out sessions on dance floors, casual partners and flings ect. This isn’t through lack of trying though lol, taking it as it comes is a real pain sometimes, not to mention there seems to be a lot of waiting involved. I wouldn’t say I was the most attractive guy in the world by any means. However I do have quite defined, masculine features, and so called “evil eyes” apparently what women look for in a fling and i’d guess by what I’ve read hear, a high natural androstenone signature. Women quite rarely seem to engage me in converstion, those who do seem quite highly sexed and i’ve observed quite a disparity in terms of looks, intelligence, age, class, race ect so I know its not simply that I attract so called sluts. Genrally the physical interactions preceed the verbal (admittidley only meeting women in bars and nightclubs probably exacerbates the situation). The thing is i’m a natural talker and don’t struggle to engage women in conversation, however I feel I have to demonstrate a “take it leave it” attitude and let the women do the suggesting. So I basically have two theories of how [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) could help me out. 1. Use high androstenone products like Ammo and TUTH and build on what i’ve got, or 2. Use social products such as CCTM to get conversation flowing, which I find to be both more meaningful as well as productive. So basically I not naivley thinking a few molecules will turn me from the 40 year old virgin into Hugh Hefner, I’m just wanting to step things up and have some fun playing with differant products while I go. Hope this makes sense and all feedback and comments are appreciated ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/intro/30802/6 "2009-07-20T18:51:09Z")
Hey now and welcome to PheroTalk. It’s always nice to read that someone has done his homework. Great Job! You are right that -none can be a repellent for the physically fit, but I think you might have a separate issue. Easy enough to resolve though too. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) could work fine for you, but personally I would go for some IH. Here’s what I’m thinking and why: If you are making out with chicks in clubs, casual sex, flings and everything you described you are activating a woman’s anti-slut defense. I’m not sure if you ever read anything about seduction and OUA stuff, but a woman wants to feel seduced by the man, but if you move to quickly and get her faster than she anticipated the next day, rest assured, she will not want anything to do with you. IH can add the deepness in her eyes she feels you are lacking, add some Ishine to it and walla, you got a winner. Also when you are about to make out on the dance floor you should stop and say: “not here” or “We’re moving too fast”. These are great to tell a woman that you respect her, don’t want her to look like a slut in front of her friends and that you have self-control. In other words slow down and steer her away from sex for a while. If you are worried that you wont get any from her, believe me, nothing in the world gets a girl hornier than a man who pushes her advances away 🙂 **Your GC is on its way to your email** ---
**Author:** ![smithy33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@smithy33](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smithy33)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/intro/30802/7 "2009-07-20T19:16:54Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Hey now and welcome to PheroTalk. It’s always nice to read that someone has done his homework. Great Job! You are right that -none can be a repellent for the physically fit, but I think you might have a separate issue. Easy enough to resolve though too. Ammo could work fine for you, but personally I would go for some IH. > > Here’s what I’m thinking and why: If you are making out with chicks in clubs, casual sex, flings and everything you described you are activating a woman’s anti-slut defense. I’m not sure if you ever read anything about seduction and OUA stuff, but a woman wants to feel seduced by the man, but if you move to quickly and get her faster than she anticipated the next day, rest assured, she will not want anything to do with you. > > IH can add the deepness in her eyes she feels you are lacking, add some Ishine to it and walla, you got a winner. Also when you are about to make out on the dance floor you should stop and say: “not here” or “We’re moving too fast”. These are great to tell a woman that you respect her, don’t want her to look like a slut in front of her friends and that you have self-control. In other words slow down and steer her away from sex for a while. > > If you are worried that you wont get any from her, believe me, nothing in the world gets a girl hornier than a man who pushes her advances away 🙂 > > **Your GC is on its way to your email** Your definatley right there. In the past I’ve found that isolating a woman from social consequences( i.e her friends ) and building up some trust and rapport has lead to more long term casual relationships, which is why i’m planning to use social pheromes primarily. I think i’l also get a bottle of Ammo as you suggested just to peak things up a bit as nightclubs and bars ect are the only places I tend to meet women, the odds are stacked against me from the start. Your also spot on about pushing away a woman’s advances, I often have to push myself to do this(and subtly to boot ) but the results are unbelivable, I’m sure women like boomerangs sometimes. Anyway cheers for the advice all and i’ll be ordering tonight. I’ll be back with a report as soon as I can test these things out.