# Introduction: free pie!!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/introduction-free-pie/52250>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [September 8, 2011, 2:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/introduction-free-pie/52250 "2011-09-08T14:53:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Stezzel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stezzel/32/1932_2.png) [@Stezzel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Stezzel)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 2:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/introduction-free-pie/52250/1 "2011-09-08T14:53:20Z")

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Hello,

Now that I have your attention, allow me to introdcude myself 🙂. Hi I’m Ivo aka Stezz or Stezzel. I’m 24 years old and live in Holland. I’m an IT specialist and work in a big company you probably all know: PriceWaterhouseCooper.  
With 1000 colleques it’s a pretty nice place to test some [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/). Unfortunately only males work at my department, so no TUTH or Ammo (yes, i’ve been reading)

My best buddy told me about these “pheromones” that I should really try and he orderd a pocket spray of Ammo and A314.  
A week later I went on vacation to Salou for 2 weeks, THE PERFECT place to test both sprays. I figured the A314 spray would only last 1 week if I sprayed 2 times 2 sprays a day, so I started the 2nd week I was there.

A314  
Monday I started the morning with 2 sprays with 2 sprays of A314 and immediately felt like… MORE of myself. Like a more, better and more complete me. Didn’t really last long though, kept this feeling for I think about 1 to 2 hours. Down part was that I did not notice any change in the behavior of my friends or the people around me.. Still, the feeling i got was very nice!

Ammunition  
Now here’s the down part, I almost got a negative vibe from this spray. Now i’m not a bad looking guy (no brad Pit either, but nog BADbad), I sport 5 times a week (no not golf or chess) so do have a nice body and I do know how to dance. I’m not a cassanova, and don’t usually go up to girls unless they approach me. I normaly have eye contact with girl when I go out, but it always stays with that, wich is OK by me  
But the nights we went our and I had this sprayed on, NOTHING. Not even eye contact!! which is really weird in a place like Salou where girls get so drunk they don’t even know their own name. Even my best friend noticed it (didn’t know I was on the spray) and also thought it was strange.  
I started with 2 sprays an redosed it to 1 for a night, but again NO contact whatsoever  
On the other hand my girlfriend really likes the smell of Ammunition. She didn’t make any (other than usual) sexual or sensual approached…

Conclusion so far: A314 really boosts yourself but wears off pretty fast. Ammunition smells really nice and manly, but that’s everything there is to it…

Bee seeying you guys!

PS if you’re still searching… no sorry, there really is no pie.  
Maybe we’ll have some together someday 🙂

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**Author:** ![looifookmeng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8baadc/32.png) [@looifookmeng](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/looifookmeng)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/introduction-free-pie/52250/2 "2011-09-08T16:35:00Z")

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Hi there Ivo,

Haha,thats a pretty fun way of catching peoples attention with pie(:-p)Haha,i also work in the IT line,its pretty cool.You get to see a lot of computers all day(^\_^)Havent really heard of the company but im Malaysian so might be why.Haha,yeah.I wouldn’t recommend too much tuth or ammo if there are only guys there.(:-p)Good that youve already been reading,will give a solid base when your testing.

Thats cool that your buddy ordered you some pheromones.He must be a pretty good buddy,im not sure i would share my secret with everybody(:-p)haha,a314 has pretty good self effects.The effects on other people can be a bit subdued because it can come across a bit intimidating.I find instant gentleman a lot easier to use to start off with.Haha,you might have quite high testosterone since your pretty fit.You probably had an od on the ammo,i find i can only manage 1 spray without oding and getting negative effects so that might be what happened with you.Ammo also doesn’t cause sexual feelings on its own,it comes across more that you are sexy.TUTH has more of that vibe but it makes you seem horny as well(:-p)

Think youve already qualified for the gift certificate so will just talk about products for a bit.Ammo is pretty good but sounds like you might need to buffer it a bit if you use it because it sounds like you od on it pretty easily.Instant shine or instant openness are good buffers.Instant shine gives a more positive mood to everyone and instant openness makes people a lot more chatty.Adding a bit of instant openness to A314 may make the effects of it more obvious also since a lot of people will be thinking something but will be a bit intimidated to say it sometimes.Or you could switch to instant gentleman.Thats a lot more relaxed version of A314 and is good for socializing.(^\_^)You would also want to find the sweet spots for dosage for each of the products to get the best effects.Some hits tend to be pretty subtle as well.The links below give good starter information if you haven’t read them already and will help you get the best out of testing your pheremones.All the best and hope your testing goes well when you get more using the gift certificate.Hope to catch ya around the forums.

[An Introduction to Mones; Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Length of](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43003)

[What pheromones can do and what they cant Updated](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558)

[Pheromone FAQs](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-f-a-qs/11517)

[How to find your sweet spot… - PheroTalk Pheromone Research Forum](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146)

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/introduction-free-pie/52250/3 "2011-09-08T16:35:06Z")

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I might suggest sweet spot testing to find your best spray to maximize the results. 🙂

Now give me some PIE!😃

The community will stop by and answer all your questions, I just wanted to ensure I got some pie first

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**Author:** ![Centrum\_Virium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Centrum\_Virium](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Centrum_Virium)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 4:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/introduction-free-pie/52250/4 "2011-09-08T16:36:03Z")

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What type of pie?.. choose your answer carefully or I may tell you how amazing 20 sprays of IJ is 😃

Welcome to the forums Stezzel 🙂

Its great that you’ve had some experience and good results with mones, and that you’ve already read around.  
If your getting bad results from ammo with everyone BUT the girl who has comfort with you already then possibly you have a very low -none tolerance, possibly because your already producing alot. I wouldn’t scrap ammo yet, test it in different situations with different people but if this sort of result persists then I suggest you try IG, rone may better suit you.  
You could also try to buffer the ammo with social products like IS and IO, observe the difference of effects.

I just read the PS…☹

P.S please dont use 20 sprays of IJ 😃

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**Author:** ![Oasis314](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/oasis314/32/219_2.png) [@Oasis314](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Oasis314)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/introduction-free-pie/52250/5 "2011-09-08T16:40:37Z")

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Hi there! seems like you got a rare visit from Steve!

Already a report straight into the intro, A314 and [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) to the hat, that’s a great starting point.

Is there any other objective you have in mind on using mones?

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/introduction-free-pie/52250/6 "2011-09-09T19:23:55Z")

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> [@Oasis314](#):
>
> Hi there! seems like you got a rare visit from Steve!
> 
> Already a report straight into the intro, A314 and Ammo to the hat, that’s a great starting point.
> 
> Is there any other objective you have in mind on using mones?

I wanted pie 😃

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**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2011, 12:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/introduction-free-pie/52250/7 "2011-09-12T00:10:12Z")

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Welcome to pherotalk Stezzel!

The worse thing to do is make promises to a girl and then don’t deliver.

For that I will have to ban all your accounts. Just kidding!

The men will be better able to assist you along the way with your results whether positive or not.

**Your gc was issued! 🙂**

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**Author:** ![Stezzel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stezzel/32/1932_2.png) [@Stezzel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Stezzel)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 11:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/introduction-free-pie/52250/8 "2011-09-13T11:43:24Z")

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> [@looifookmeng](#):
>
> Hi there Ivo,
> 
> Haha,thats a pretty fun way of catching peoples attention with pie(:-p)Haha,i also work in the IT line,its pretty cool.You get to see a lot of computers all day(^\_^)Havent really heard of the company but im Malaysian so might be why.Haha,yeah.I wouldn’t recommend too much tuth or ammo if there are only guys there.(:-p)Good that youve already been reading,will give a solid base when your testing.
> 
> Thats cool that your buddy ordered you some pheromones.He must be a pretty good buddy,im not sure i would share my secret with everybody(:-p)haha,a314 has pretty good self effects.The effects on other people can be a bit subdued because it can come across a bit intimidating.I find instant gentleman a lot easier to use to start off with.Haha,you might have quite high testosterone since your pretty fit.You probably had an od on the ammo,i find i can only manage 1 spray without oding and getting negative effects so that might be what happened with you.Ammo also doesn’t cause sexual feelings on its own,it comes across more that you are sexy.TUTH has more of that vibe but it makes you seem horny as well(:-p)
> 
> Think youve already qualified for the gift certificate so will just talk about products for a bit.Ammo is pretty good but sounds like you might need to buffer it a bit if you use it because it sounds like you od on it pretty easily.Instant shine or instant openness are good buffers.Instant shine gives a more positive mood to everyone and instant openness makes people a lot more chatty.Adding a bit of instant openness to A314 may make the effects of it more obvious also since a lot of people will be thinking something but will be a bit intimidated to say it sometimes.Or you could switch to instant gentleman.Thats a lot more relaxed version of A314 and is good for socializing.(^\_^)You would also want to find the sweet spots for dosage for each of the products to get the best effects.Some hits tend to be pretty subtle as well.The links below give good starter information if you haven’t read them already and will help you get the best out of testing your pheremones.All the best and hope your testing goes well when you get more using the gift certificate.Hope to catch ya around the forums.
> 
> [An Introduction to Mones; Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Length of](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43003)
> 
> [What pheromones can do and what they cant Updated](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558)
> 
> [Pheromone FAQs](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-f-a-qs/11517)
> 
> [How to find your sweet spot… - PheroTalk Pheromone Research Forum](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146)

Hii there looifookmeng, thank you for the warm welcome! It’s nice to find a fellow IT worker here 🙂. Yeah I think my Pie gag attracted some attention, but now it’s starting to work against me xD!

Thanks a lot for the info and the links, i’m already busy reading. Guess you’re right about the OD on Ammo. Before I used it, I read that I should’t use to much of it, but thought “nah, won’t hurt to spray a little bit extra”, but it did ☹.  
So, i’ll be sure to dose everything better!  
And about my buddy, you’re also right about that 🙂. Were best friends for quite some years and i’m the only one he’s told so far. He’s already bought more than 10 kinds of pheromones and is testing a lot.

This morning i received my first order 🙂!! Thanks to your advise I ordered A314, instant gentlemen and TUTH, and am testing the first 2 pheromones as we speek. So far i’m seeying slight diferent approaches from my colleagues, so i’m quite positive.  
At the moment i’m looking for a new job, and think A314 and instant gentlemen will really help me find a good one.

See ya!

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**Author:** ![Stezzel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stezzel/32/1932_2.png) [@Stezzel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Stezzel)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 1:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/introduction-free-pie/52250/9 "2011-09-13T13:21:26Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
>
> I might suggest sweet spot testing to find your best spray to maximize the results. 🙂
> 
> Now give me some PIE!😃
> 
> The community will stop by and answer all your questions, I just wanted to ensure I got some pie first

Hey Steve!

Yeah, i’m testing what which spots work for me. And also still reading a lot from test results.

Haha, I don’t think sending you pie in an envelope is such a good idea, because… Well I don’t have your adress 😃  
But you know what! Be sure to contact me as soon as you arive in Holland. We’ll go visit Multivlaai, my treat.  
Multivlaai = [http://www.winkelpaleis.nl/bestanden/0527161921\_MultiVlaai1.jpg](http://www.winkelpaleis.nl/bestanden/0527161921_MultiVlaai1.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Stezzel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stezzel/32/1932_2.png) [@Stezzel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Stezzel)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 1:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/introduction-free-pie/52250/10 "2011-09-13T13:53:17Z")

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> [@Centrum\_Virium](#):
>
> What type of pie?.. choose your answer carefully or I may tell you how amazing 20 sprays of IJ is 😃
> 
> Welcome to the forums Stezzel 🙂
> 
> Its great that you’ve had some experience and good results with mones, and that you’ve already read around.  
> If your getting bad results from ammo with everyone BUT the girl who has comfort with you already then possibly you have a very low -none tolerance, possibly because your already producing alot. I wouldn’t scrap ammo yet, test it in different situations with different people but if this sort of result persists then I suggest you try IG, rone may better suit you.  
> You could also try to buffer the ammo with social products like IS and IO, observe the difference of effects.
> 
> I just read the PS…☹
> 
> P.S please dont use 20 sprays of IJ 😃

Well I was kinda aiming for caramel or fudge. Problem is, in Holland people really don’t know what a brownie is, and i really LOVE brownie! but that’s a no-go.

Anyway, thanks for the advise. I guess you’re right, Ammo’s probably not the right [pheromone](https://a314.com/) for me. I’m not trying to burn Ammo, but maybe it’s just not the correct one for me.  
You know, also thanks to your advise I’ve ordered IG. Can’t really tell if I notice any difference, but this is my first testday.  
Also ordered TUTH. With Ammo I was aiming more for a sexy/horny pheromone, so I started off wrong. Now gonna test TUTH, and hope I get a little bit more action when going out 🆒

PS Thanks for the great advise! I reaceived gift of IJ today, but now I know not to use it

PSS Wasn’t actually gonna use it on myself. But I have some colleagues I really don’t like, so maybe just a sneaky spray on them will do serve them right 😃

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**Author:** ![looifookmeng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8baadc/32.png) [@looifookmeng](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/looifookmeng)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 2:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/introduction-free-pie/52250/11 "2011-09-13T14:09:47Z")

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> [@Stezzel](#):
>
> Hii there looifookmeng, thank you for the warm welcome! It’s nice to find a fellow IT worker here 🙂. Yeah I think my Pie gag attracted some attention, but now it’s starting to work against me xD!
> 
> Thanks a lot for the info and the links, i’m already busy reading. Guess you’re right about the OD on Ammo. Before I used it, I read that I should’t use to much of it, but thought “nah, won’t hurt to spray a little bit extra”, but it did ☹.  
> So, i’ll be sure to dose everything better!  
> And about my buddy, you’re also right about that 🙂. Were best friends for quite some years and i’m the only one he’s told so far. He’s already bought more than 10 kinds of pheromones and is testing a lot.
> 
> This morning i received my first order 🙂!! Thanks to your advise I ordered A314, instant gentlemen and TUTH, and am testing the first 2 pheromones as we speek. So far i’m seeying slight diferent approaches from my colleagues, so i’m quite positive.  
> At the moment i’m looking for a new job, and think A314 and instant gentlemen will really help me find a good one.
> 
> See ya!

Haha,yup.IT is a fun job to have.Haha,yeah.Everyone is trying to claim pies from you now(:-p)Cool that youve already started reading.It will give you a good base to start off with for testing. Yeah,ammo is one of those sprays that doesn’t work for everyone.I work out so my sweet spot keeps moving(\>_\>)Hopefully it doesnt go below 1 spray though(:-p)Haha,cool then.You and your buddy could go out on the prowl.Would be interesting to see effects,would be curious whose pheromones signature would come off stronger though(:-p)Can understand the testing a lot,im a bit addicted and have been collecting them(\>_\<)Still a noob though a lot of the time.haha,thats a cool first set of pheromones to test out(^_^)Good that your getting some hits already,you will definitely notice a lot once you find your sweet spot.TUTH will be fun to test out with your girlfriend and is good to mix with instant gentleman on dates.Would just be careful of the od with that,girls can get quite bitchy and defensive(\>_\<)Definitely start with 1 spray for that(:-p)Haha,see you got a free gift of instant jerk.I would say try it out as lots of people have good success pairing instant gentleman and instant jerk as it buffers pretty well.Definitely 1 spray though,not 20(:-p)A314 and instant gentleman will definitely help you with job interviews.Not sure whether together would be wise though since they both have a similar effect but can try it out and see based on the situation.All the best and hope you have fun with your testing.You should also start a journal to keep track of hits and dosages.

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**Author:** ![Stezzel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stezzel/32/1932_2.png) [@Stezzel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Stezzel)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 3:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/introduction-free-pie/52250/12 "2011-09-13T15:51:19Z")

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> [@Oasis314](#):
>
> Hi there! seems like you got a rare visit from Steve!
> 
> Already a report straight into the intro, A314 and Ammo to the hat, that’s a great starting point.
> 
> Is there any other objective you have in mind on using mones?

Hey Oasis314!  
Yeah ofcourse, I already had my first test, so why not tell you guys about it 🙂. I really really like A314, and Ammo has a great smell, but it might just not be the right Pheromone for me.

Well, i’m trying to find a new (better) job as an IT specialist. And this might me get an advantage when i’m in a job interview. So that’s my primary goal right now. I also ordered TUTH and you can already guess what that’s for 😃, partying!

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/introduction-free-pie/52250/13 "2011-09-13T17:25:08Z")

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Ummm so wait a minute here…where’s the pie?

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**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/introduction-free-pie/52250/14 "2011-09-13T17:38:12Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
>
> Ummm so wait a minute here…where’s the pie?

I´m gonna send some cookies / biscuits …

you know the ones that are so famous here in Germany in autumn 😃

**Pago**

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**Author:** ![Stezzel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stezzel/32/1932_2.png) [@Stezzel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Stezzel)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2011, 9:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/introduction-free-pie/52250/15 "2011-09-14T09:21:45Z")

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> [@Pagodeiro](#):
>
> I´m gonna send some cookies / biscuits …
> 
> you know the ones that are so famous here in Germany in autumn 😃
> 
> **Pago**

Niiiice!  
Someone here is lucky 😃  
Maybe I’ll visit and buy some in Kleve, also catch up on my German 🙂
