# IO Questions **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 13, 2009, 3:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-questions/33248 "2009-10-13T03:48:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 3:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-questions/33248/1 "2009-10-13T03:48:27Z")
K, I’ve got a few questions about IO, as the title says :-p 1. Does IO effect the user the same way it effects those around him? 2. IO is an ice breaker, and IH is a depth enhancer. Would it be suitible to use them both with new acquaintances? What about close friends you’d like to go farther with? Kind of off topic, but how does sweat effect a Phero user? Do the Pheros lose, or gain effect? I live in South Florida and just walking from class to class gets you sweaty. ---
**Author:** ![novoAlias](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/novoalias/32/1578_2.png) [@novoAlias](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/novoAlias)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 3:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-questions/33248/2 "2009-10-13T03:59:12Z")
Do a little digging bro, pretty sure all of these have been covered in more detail than you could possibly need =) IO and IH is a deep conversation talk all night mix, i’ve only tried IO but it really seemed to do the trick. Didn’t notice self effects except maybe conversation flowed a little more than usual Here’s a good place to start although alot of the talk now is about the Mxxx and Pxx which means the basics take a bit more of a look. [http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-journals/?daysprune=365&order=desc&sort=replycount](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-journals/?daysprune=365&order=desc&sort=replycount) ---
**Author:** ![James1975](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/41988e/32.png) [@James1975](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/James1975)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 4:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-questions/33248/3 "2009-10-13T04:06:26Z")
I’ve wondered that if you use both IO and IH at the same time in same amounts, isn’t it the same thing as using CTTM2 solo? Or is there any difference? ---
**Author:** ![Zansteps](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zansteps/32/2407_2.png) [@Zansteps](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zansteps)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 4:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-questions/33248/4 "2009-10-13T04:17:01Z")
Alot of Pheros seem to have redundant or overlapping effects, but I’ve come to learn that they really each do their own thing… ---
**Author:** ![BLADE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blade/32/2083_2.png) [@BLADE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BLADE)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 4:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-questions/33248/5 "2009-10-13T04:19:33Z")
> [@James1975](#): > > I’ve wondered that if you use both IO and IH at the same time in same amounts, isn’t it the same thing as using CTTM2 solo? Or is there any difference? Both IO and IH contain Alpha and Beta Androstenol, just in different amounts, so using them together will effectively give you the same results as CTTM2. There is possibly a buffer or two that isn’t present in CTTM2 as far as I’m aware, but not enough to make an especially noticeable difference. ---
**Author:** ![BLADE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blade/32/2083_2.png) [@BLADE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BLADE)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 4:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-questions/33248/6 "2009-10-13T04:23:09Z")
> [@Zansteps](#): > > Alot of Pheros seem to have redundant or overlapping effects, but I’ve come to learn that they really each do their own thing… It’s not so much that they have redundant effects…there are differences, but they can be extremely subtle. And that subtlety can sometimes be the difference between a Hit or a Miss.