# IO versus IS **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 28, 2011, 1:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-versus-is/189990 "2011-02-28T01:05:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![spu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@spu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spu)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 1:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-versus-is/189990/1 "2011-02-28T01:05:35Z")
I’m new to all of this and could use some advice. Which product, IO versus IS, induces feelings of happiness in others? From what I have read it seems IS seems to have more of a self effect, a really good thing for those using A1, but I have found IO seems better at stimulating feelings of happiness and light heartness in the people around me. So what does everyone think. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 1:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-versus-is/189990/2 "2011-02-28T01:28:41Z")
Two totally different product. SO IS ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 3:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-versus-is/189990/3 "2011-02-28T03:36:52Z")
As P51 said both are totally different products. While IO will make people around you happy, your question is “which one makes the people around you just seem happy.” While IS makes people happy, it also gives me an aura as they say of youth. When I wear it I get the “have you lost weight?” kind of question. But more importantly it makes people really cheerful and happy to see me. While IO may make some “happy” what it definitely does is open them up to talk, and that doesn’t necessarily change the state of mind they are already in, whether that’s negative or positive. It usually IME just maintains that state of mind and gets them to talking…the only state of mind it might change is one of “shyness.” ---
**Author:** ![spu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@spu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spu)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 4:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-versus-is/189990/4 "2011-02-28T04:30:22Z")
Thanks gentleman. I am just following up something I noticed but I wasn’t sure if it was just me or if I was misinterpreting the reaction. I know AMMO and A314 can produce attraction even though they are different [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) and even the way smartmones advertises both products it seems like they both stimulate happiness. ---
**Author:** ![tmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@tmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tmoz)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-versus-is/189990/5 "2011-02-28T20:26:12Z")
Subjective to what you mean, since IO could serve as the medium leading to others happiness. But IS serves as a more direct correlation ---
**Author:** ![Slash](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/slash/32/797_2.png) [@Slash](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Slash)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2011, 9:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-versus-is/189990/6 "2011-03-01T21:41:55Z")
For my part, i have seen amazing results with the two combined together. Less obvious when seperated. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 10:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-versus-is/189990/7 "2011-03-02T10:26:24Z")
Some emotions and reactions to those emotions so closely resemble each other that sometimes it is hard to tell. IMO IO is more a content happy comfortable feeling. You get more of a cheerful willing type feeling. So the response I get from others is more of a happy willingness to open up and interact. They feel comfortable around me and that comfort attracts them. Ishine is more a warm uplifted feeling. Sort of euphoria, happiness with a feeling of well being. The response I get from this one is people draw to me like cats basking in the sun. They dont necessarily want to interact they just want wallow in your warmth and feel great. Ever meet a person who just makes you feel good about yourself and the world just being around them ? Thats Ishine Ever meet a person you just click with and you cant talk for hours ? Thats IO. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![little](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@little](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/little)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 11:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-versus-is/189990/8 "2011-03-05T11:29:24Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Ever meet a person who just makes you feel good about yourself and the world just being around them ? Thats Ishine > > Ever meet a person you just click with and you cant talk for hours ? Thats IO. > > Tisha Tisha, Do you mean if I was wearing IO, people who come near me will feel that I am their kindred spirit? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 11:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-versus-is/189990/9 "2011-03-05T11:35:11Z")
Sort of… I think the Ishine and IO combo would be more kindred spirit. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 11:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-versus-is/189990/10 "2011-03-05T11:54:29Z")
> [@little](#): > > _ **Do you mean if I was wearing IO, people who come near me will feel that I am their kindred spirit?** _ For kindred spirit effects I like a combo of IS and IH. IO is great for opening up people in general and making chat flow freely, sometimes too much so. But IH achieves a level of comfort that makes people feel like they’ve known you for a long time. Therefore it inspires more thoughtful communication on a deeper more meaningful level. 😉 Bella ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 9:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-versus-is/189990/11 "2011-03-06T21:09:41Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Some emotions and reactions to those emotions so closely resemble each other that sometimes it is hard to tell. > > IMO IO is more a content happy comfortable feeling. You get more of a cheerful willing type feeling. So the response I get from others is more of a happy willingness to open up and interact. They feel comfortable around me and that comfort attracts them. > > Ishine is more a warm uplifted feeling. Sort of euphoria, happiness with a feeling of well being. The response I get from this one is people draw to me like cats basking in the sun. They dont necessarily want to interact they just want wallow in your warmth and feel great. > > Ever meet a person who just makes you feel good about yourself and the world just being around them ? Thats Ishine > > Ever meet a person you just click with and you cant talk for hours ? Thats IO. > > Tisha I always have a hard time trying to verbalize the difference between IO and Shine. They’re both similar in that they give off a very pleasant “feel good” vibe but there are differences and I think your description of the difference is about the best one I’ve read. ---
**Author:** ![dwrestle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f04885/32.png) [@dwrestle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dwrestle)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2011, 1:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-versus-is/189990/12 "2011-03-07T01:51:11Z")
I agree with RADMAN513 that was the best descriptions I have ever heard of mones, and that really helps me a lot. You should break all of the products down like that. ---
**Author:** ![little](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@little](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/little)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2011, 6:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-versus-is/189990/13 "2011-03-07T06:59:32Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Sort of… I think the Ishine and IO combo would be more kindred spirit. > > Tisha > [@Bella](#): > > For kindred spirit effects I like a combo of IS and IH. > > IO is great for opening up people in general and making chat flow freely, sometimes too much so. But IH achieves a level of comfort that makes people feel like they’ve known you for a long time. Therefore it inspires more thoughtful communication on a deeper more meaningful level. 😉 > > Bella Thank you Tisha, Thank you Bella 😃 I love these Kindred Spirit recipes ~ IS & IO OR IS & IH I just can’t wait to try ~ I still have a long way to go before I can layer my mones ☹ tested IS last week on its own, bit disappointed… [Posted my experiment in my journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/happy-your-life-willl-be-if-you-get-it-right-a-journal/49120) ---
**Author:** ![spu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@spu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spu)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-versus-is/189990/14 "2011-03-07T20:51:59Z")
Thanks everyone. This has helped a lot. Trisha, I have also notice that IS doesn’t seem to promote interactions which is what I am aiming for (ie happy conversations). Little, could you let me know about your IO and IS results. I have found it to be mix that is hard to describe. ---
**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 9:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-versus-is/189990/15 "2011-03-08T09:40:39Z")
I love these two products, they’re always on my shopping list in the TOGO form. IS, this just makes me feel so wide awake it’s unreal, not to mention I feel alert and full of confidence. I’ve not really noticed any results on the people around me in work, with IS, but IO I have!! Staff could be having a bad day (which is usually every day for some, lol) and with me wearing IO usually 2 sprays to one arm, rubbed-in by the other it seems to lift their mood. The quiet ones I’ve noticed come out of their shell and actually join in with conversations. It makes work more enjoyable. If I’m working night shifts, I’ll apply one spray of IS to my neck, as well as the 2 sprays of IO to my arms/wrists. I also get a lot of compliments of the ‘nice scent’ of IO from both male and female collegues. Dave. ---
**Author:** ![little](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@little](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/little)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 1:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-versus-is/189990/16 "2011-03-08T13:13:06Z")
> [@spu](#): > > Little, could you let me know about your IO and IS results. I have found it to be mix that is hard to describe. Spu, I will most definitely let you know when I done my test. Tested only IO today, got really confused, don’t think I notice anything different. I don’t want to loose heart when doing these test but so are the outcomes are not very encouraging ☹ [My Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/happy-your-life-willl-be-if-you-get-it-right-a-journal/49120) ---
**Author:** ![little](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@little](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/little)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 12:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-versus-is/189990/17 "2011-03-09T12:39:07Z")
> [@spu](#): > > Thanks everyone. This has helped a lot. > > Trisha, I have also notice that IS doesn’t seem to promote interactions which is what I am aiming for (ie happy conversations). > > Little, could you let me know about your IO and IS results. I have found it to be mix that is hard to describe. Tested IS and IO today ~ fail Bad timing to test it out I think ☹ , story in my [Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/happy-your-life-willl-be-if-you-get-it-right-a-journal/49120) ☹ Will have to try the Kindred Spirit combo again… feeling so down tonight… ---
**Author:** ![spu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@spu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spu)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 8:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-versus-is/189990/18 "2011-03-10T08:14:47Z")
I find IH to make people become serious. Yes there seems to be a sense of intimacy but it’s like they are telling you some very hard things even though they are not. ---
**Author:** ![little](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@little](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/little)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2011, 2:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-versus-is/189990/19 "2011-03-10T14:20:39Z")
> [@spu](#): > > I find IH to make people become serious. Yes there seems to be a sense of intimacy but it’s like they are telling you some very hard things even though they are not. Hi Spu, I think I saw the effect of IH today [journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/happy-your-life-willl-be-if-you-get-it-right-a-journal/49120) I think intimacy but not in a sexual kind of way is the vibe… is that your take on “intimacy” too? When you said "very hard things“ what do you mean? :o ---
**Author:** ![spu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@spu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spu)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2011, 3:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-versus-is/189990/20 "2011-03-11T03:36:51Z")
Hello Little. By “very hard things” I mean very difficult to take, often bad news. My pet will need to be put down or a very close friend has been in a very serious car accident and might not make it. These are the things people say a quite, even tone manner, and often sound like they are very carefully chosing each and every word. Actually, this response is very dramatic and very consisent for me. If I don’t wear IH I find the same people being quite light hearted. It might be I am not noticing the more suttle responds given off by people who I don’t think are being influenced (but who actually are) because the contrast is just too great. I often dismiss a nonexpected response as the [pheromone](https://a314.com/) not working but it might be. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-versus-is/189990.md?page=2)