# IO vs CTTM2 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-vs-cttm2/26710 "2009-03-04T00:08:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![wearehispeed](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wearehispeed/32/550_2.png) [@wearehispeed](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wearehispeed)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-vs-cttm2/26710/1 "2009-03-04T00:08:03Z")
Just wondering what the differences were in CTTM2 and IO? ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 12:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-vs-cttm2/26710/2 "2009-03-04T00:13:11Z")
CTTM is 50% beta androstenol and 50% alpha androstenol. IO is 30% beta and 70% alpha androstenol. Diane ---
**Author:** ![xfactor85](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xfactor85/32/1893_2.png) [@xfactor85](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xfactor85)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 12:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-vs-cttm2/26710/3 "2009-03-04T00:35:16Z")
I was wondering the same thing earlier today. Try this thread. `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/report-instant-honesty-vs-instant-openness-13129.html` ---
**Author:** ![wearehispeed](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wearehispeed/32/550_2.png) [@wearehispeed](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wearehispeed)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 12:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-vs-cttm2/26710/4 "2009-03-04T00:44:36Z")
Thanks Diane and Xfactor. ---
**Author:** ![wilks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f475e1/32.png) [@wilks](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wilks)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 4:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-vs-cttm2/26710/5 "2009-03-04T04:59:24Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > CTTM is 50% beta androstenol and 50% alpha androstenol. IO is 30% beta and 70% alpha androstenol. > > Diane I thought that was IFM that was 50/50…so what’s the diff between CTTM2 and IFM? ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 5:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-vs-cttm2/26710/6 "2009-03-04T05:38:40Z")
> [@wilks](#): > > I thought that was IFM that was 50/50…so what’s the diff between CTTM2 and IFM? [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) contains Androstadienone. It does not contain either Alpha Androstenol or Beta Androstenol. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 8:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-vs-cttm2/26710/7 "2009-03-04T08:07:26Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > CTTM is 50% beta androstenol and 50% alpha androstenol. IO is 30% beta and 70% alpha androstenol. > > Diane Not exactly 🙂. CTTM, the original, used to be a combination of 50/50 but CTTM2 has a few other carrier mones in there as well. Keep in mind that IO has quite a bit more to it as well. What Diane is saying is that these are reported to be the base configurations, but please do keep in mind that there is really a whole lot more to it than just that. Of course you have to consider that Diane is borderline genius, which also means she’s borderline crazy 😛. I’ve been trying to convince her she needs a job at Taco Bell, because she has that whole border line thing going, not to mention she thinks outside the bun. Yeah its late and I need sleep:o ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2009, 1:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-vs-cttm2/26710/8 "2009-03-04T13:00:10Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > Not exactly 🙂. CTTM, the original, used to be a combination of 50/50 but CTTM2 has a few other carrier mones in there as well. > > Keep in mind that IO has quite a bit more to it as well. > > What Diane is saying is that these are reported to be the base configurations, but please do keep in mind that there is really a whole lot more to it than just that. Of course you have to consider that Diane is borderline genius, which also means she’s borderline crazy 😛. I’ve been trying to convince her she needs a job at Taco Bell, because she has that whole border line thing going, not to mention she thinks outside the bun. > > Yeah its late and I need sleep:o Just repeating what Steve told me. No one has ever told me what carrier mones are either…heh. Heh… shows you what he knows. Mostly I think about what I want in the bun. Steve, I wish I could rub your head and put you to sleep, poor thing. Diane ---
**Author:** ![mdm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@mdm](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mdm)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-vs-cttm2/26710/9 "2009-03-14T17:43:04Z")
so steve in conclusion does cttm have a wider veriety of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) it it. and what are the intenional use for each one . your personal opinion which is better please explan( i’m really trying to learn as much as posible on these too before buying) thanks alot ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-vs-cttm2/26710/10 "2009-03-14T18:13:45Z")
Trace amounts of steering mones don’t change the essential character of either product. They merely focus their effects. Personally I prefer a stronger dose of alpha androstenol–more fun in the sun. Goes better with beer too. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2009, 7:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/io-vs-cttm2/26710/11 "2009-03-14T19:17:46Z")
Personal opinion is that until you really get a feel for how one works you won’t see a great deal of difference between CTTM, IO, and IH. CTTM is the balanced product and the other two lean either toward quantity of conversation or quality of conversation. Pick one and give it a try…a lot of guys are overthinking on these products. > [@mdm](#): > > so steve in conclusion does cttm have a wider veriety of pheromones it it. and what are the intenional use for each one . your personal opinion which is better please explan( i’m really trying to learn as much as posible on these too before buying) thanks alot