# IOI authenticity **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 25, 2007, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ioi-authenticity/3327 "2007-04-25T19:37:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ioi-authenticity/3327/1 "2007-04-25T19:37:29Z")
A simple but powerful point made by a few people - partic Style and Lance Mason - is to check in with your body to figure out what IOIs really mean. (Step away for a bathroom break if you are swamped by noise). There is just too much information for your conscious mind to process. ---
**Author:** ![bronzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bronzie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bronzie)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ioi-authenticity/3327/2 "2007-04-25T21:20:59Z")
??.. ---
**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 9:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ioi-authenticity/3327/3 "2007-04-25T21:37:34Z")
English translation.. anyone? ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 10:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ioi-authenticity/3327/4 "2007-04-25T22:54:55Z")
> [@bronzie](#): > > ??.. ah, eloquent as ever, bronzie. your body reacts to the signals she puts out at a subconscious level. so really you know how into you she is, regardless of how much she is generally flirty (for example). ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 10:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ioi-authenticity/3327/5 "2007-04-25T22:59:32Z")
> [@PheroQuirk](#): > > ah, eloquent as ever, bronzie. > > your body reacts to the signals she puts out at a subconscious level. so really you know how into you she is, regardless of how much she is generally flirty (for example). Very true PQ, That’s why always microcallibrating your presence to her IOI’s is incredibly important. There are not to many that understand it. I recently read a thread about getting IOI’s that aren’t even true IOI’s (VAH Forum). I always say step away if you’re not sure. If the IOI’s are there they will continue to be there when you come back. ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 11:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ioi-authenticity/3327/6 "2007-04-25T23:13:19Z")
> [@steveo](#): > > Very true PQ, > > That’s why always microcallibrating your presence to her IOI’s is incredibly important. There are not to many that understand it. > > I recently read a thread about getting IOI’s that aren’t even true IOI’s (VAH Forum). I always say step away if you’re not sure. If the IOI’s are there they will continue to be there when you come back. As a related but different issue, takeaways seem to be an important part of same night !closes… ---
**Author:** ![snowy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58f4c7/32.png) [@snowy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snowy)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 9:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ioi-authenticity/3327/7 "2007-04-26T09:08:54Z")
Theres two types of IOIs: buying temperature iois like submissively giggling at your every word and real iois such as moving closer, touching and asking questions. Some behaviours are common to both like holding strong eye contact. The first type is generally induced by using lots of cocky funny and being an over the top entertainer (dancing monkey) and can sometimes lead to a result but on the whole the girls will see you as “that funny guy” not a real prospect. The second kind comes from being more low key and genuine, although more subtle the second kind is far more likely to get a result. Most of pickup newbies myself included get addicted to the ego boost from obviouse buying temperature IOIs and act even more clownish to increase them. It takes a while to realise being a dancing monkey doesnt really work. ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 4:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ioi-authenticity/3327/8 "2007-04-26T16:03:04Z")
> [@snowy](#): > > Theres two types of IOIs: buying temperature iois like submissively giggling at your every word and real iois such as moving closer, touching and asking questions. Some behaviours are common to both like holding strong eye contact. > > The first type is generally induced by using lots of cocky funny and being an over the top entertainer (dancing monkey) and can sometimes lead to a result but on the whole the girls will see you as “that funny guy” not a real prospect. > > The second kind comes from being more low key and genuine, although more subtle the second kind is far more likely to get a result. Most of pickup newbies myself included get addicted to the ego boost from obviouse buying temperature IOIs and act even more clownish to increase them. It takes a while to realise being a dancing monkey doesnt really work. I think the browser ate my first reply. With all of the IOIs you describe - she may be genuinely into you, or there may be other stuff going on. (For example she may just be the flirty type, or trying to make someone else jealous). There is just too much going on to actually decode in a logical manner. Lance/Neil suggest that whilst you may observe IOIs consciously, you should tune in to your intuition (felt bodily sense) to actually decode them. There is a bunch of literature on this topic (see Eugen Gendlin’s work for example) but really it isn’t necessary to read to become good. I find that after a few drinks I naturally do this and automatically escalate appropriately all the time. What’s tricky for me is to open up and become attuned when in a totally sober state. ---
**Author:** ![snowy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58f4c7/32.png) [@snowy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snowy)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 9:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ioi-authenticity/3327/9 "2007-04-26T21:10:37Z")
> [@PheroQuirk](#): > > I think the browser ate my first reply. > I find that after a few drinks I naturally do this and automatically escalate appropriately all the time. What’s tricky for me is to open up and become attuned when in a totally sober state. Try doing a month of strictly sober sarging. It will be hard at first but its worth it in the long run. I think a really common problem (for everyone not just PUAs) is that most of their experience meeting new people over the years has been under the influence of alcohol. Therefore they have trouble getting into social state without alcohol. An experiment found that people remembered facts best in the state they learned them (drunk, stoned sober ect) and I assume the same principal applies to skills.