# IOIs from strangers **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 27, 2010, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iois-from-strangers/39657 "2010-06-27T18:25:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Coach](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coach/32/2317_2.png) [@Coach](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Coach)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iois-from-strangers/39657/1 "2010-06-27T18:25:50Z")
So, after stumbling onto this page, reading half the forum, buying half the products and trying anything that I thought might work, it pretty much comes down to this: Trying to figure out the effects each of the mones might have for me, I tried different combinations and looked for reactions from strangers… As I’m not a clubbing person, all of the testing took place in casual places like walking down the street with a friend, sitting in a coffee shop, going for some Pizza, etc.. I got some respect hits from male friends from anything containing A314 and lots of intimate conversation from female friends and acquaintances from anything containing IH… as for IOIs from strangers as described in almost all of the positive reports in the forum, there were none. No flirty waitresses, no prolonged eye contact, no giggly girls, no DIHLs, little if any response to smiles… I was in all cases well dressed, well groomed and although I’m no Radman, I’m pretty happy with my looks. Let’s see if I can remember all the mixes I tried… 1xIG, 2xIG, 3xIG 2xIH, 3xIH 2xIS, 3xIS 2xIG + 3xIS 2xIG + 2xIH + 2xIO 2xIG + 2xIH + 2xIO + 2xIS + 1xTUTH(2,5) 1xA314 2xA314 1xA314 + 3xIS 1xA314 + 3xIS + 1xAmmo 1xA314 + 3xIS + 2xIH 2xA314 + 6xIS 2xAmmo I’m overall already pretty happy with the results(self-effects, respect hits), I’m getting the “you smell so good” from female friends and guys want to hang out. My posture is better when wearing A314 and I’m more confident too. Girls that know me will come and talk my ear off when I’m wearing IH+IS, but what other mixes could I try to get some attention from girls that do not know me? nol seems to work great for people I know, -none seems to have no effect at all and rone gets respect from the guys… Perhaps I need more rone at my age, as Rone production is slower in younger people? Coming to think of it IG is the only product that hasn’t done anything for me at all… Is it possible that the dosage of rone should actually be opposite to that of -none? starting high at young age and getting lower at older age? I’m trying 4xA314 with some IS tomorrow… ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iois-from-strangers/39657/2 "2010-06-27T18:31:05Z")
> [@Coach](#): > > well groomed and although I’m no Radman, I’m pretty happy with my looks. LOL dude I actually think I’m a pretty darn average in the looks area. ---
**Author:** ![Coach](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coach/32/2317_2.png) [@Coach](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Coach)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 6:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iois-from-strangers/39657/3 "2010-06-27T18:46:42Z")
Actually I don’t know what you look like, but your Avatar looks like the Guy from Godfather 3… But anyway… stop modesting around and share some information 😉 ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iois-from-strangers/39657/4 "2010-06-27T19:08:07Z")
Well for starters if I’m reading your info right it looks like you tested most of the products as stand alones first before trying mixes, for that props. Most guys myself included jump in with both feet and start mixing and matching before we have any idea what we’re doing or even trying to do. For the most part your theory on none/rone ratio’s is pretty close. As a young guy you’re most likely producing a healthy amount on your own. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) shouldn’t cause an od though as it’s fairly well buffered. Rone production apparently increases as you get older which would explain why products like IG and A314 can sometimes make people think you’re older than you are, or at least very mature for your age. Geogi explained that Rone is produced in the liver and excreted through urine…this actually makes sense when you consider that a lot of older men tend to…um how to put this delicately…leak. Not talking about full on pissing yourself mind you but a little leakage that comes from having an older bladder. So Rone present in urine, older men more likely to leak a little, Rone=older and more mature. This equates with status because older men tend to hold all the wealth and power, they’re more established, it’s been this was since we lived in tribal societies. However the none production declines with testosterone production. None communicates physical prowess and sexual fitness so adding a little extra when you’re close to my age or wearing a high rone product might be a good idea. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iois-from-strangers/39657/5 "2010-06-27T19:28:36Z")
> [@Coach](#): > > No **flirty** waitresses, no **prolonged eye contact** , no **giggly** girls, no DIHLs, little if any response to **smiles** … > > I was in all cases well dressed, well groomed and although I’m no Radman, I’m pretty happy with my looks. SOMETIMES, to get that, you have to give, Coach. Hopefully, you will LEARN that smiles, being fun, giving eye contact, sharing giggles WILL OPEN FLOOD GATES to that in which you seek. Don’t let DIHL be your final goal or goal … it’s not important at all! I’ve seen’em without mones … I call it day dreaming. 🙄 And there will be days that no matter how fun or funny you are, the one you’re dealing with could care less. With those … NEXT! EXAMPLE: A good-looking, evil asshole in a suit, will always be that. Mones won’t help. Smile, say hi, ask questions that only positive and/or fun answers can be received. Keep your eyes open, listen to their words, and more IMPORTANTLY … watch their ACTIONS. In a lot of situations, you’ll see they differ (words and actions). My two cents, and not a penny more! 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Coach](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coach/32/2317_2.png) [@Coach](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Coach)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 7:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iois-from-strangers/39657/6 "2010-06-27T19:34:23Z")
So if I get this right maxing out rone AND anone will make you attractive, which is why the ratios are different for everybody… I would need a lot of rone, you would need a little of both and someone in his fifties would need a lot of anone and no rone at all… Btw, I didn’t say which order I tried those mixes in 😉 I doubt if anyone really ever started with testing the stuff one at a time ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iois-from-strangers/39657/7 "2010-06-27T19:40:03Z")
> [@Coach](#): > > So if I get this right maxing out rone AND anone will make you attractive, which is why the ratios are different for everybody… I would need a lot of rone, you would need a little of both and someone in his fifties would need a lot of anone and no rone at all… > > Btw, I didn’t say which order I tried those mixes in 😉 I doubt if anyone really ever started with testing the stuff one at a time Don’t put this in stone … I THINK mones depends of the target’s mone receiver. Jane loves TUTH … Betty Sue loves A314 … Linda loves A314 with 3 sprays of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) … Burtha strips when she smells AMMO. There are a lot of other targets out there that may love this or that. If you’re paying attention to your surroundings and people talking to you, you’ll be able to tell what mone or mix touches your targets. When that happens, write it down, so you know what to wear when you want Betty Sue to melt in your mouth, and not in your hand (for example). This has been … JUST A THOUGHT. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Coach](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coach/32/2317_2.png) [@Coach](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Coach)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iois-from-strangers/39657/8 "2010-06-27T19:43:30Z")
Thanks M&M, I totally agree that getting attention isn’t the final goal and that to get real interest from somebody, you’ve got to show interest yourself… That being said, there’s probably nothing that will impress your girl like getting random IOIs from girls you’ve never met before… Nothing that will impress your buddies like it either… or boost your confidence for that matter… Actually I think that is the most significant edge that mones can give you… becoause you don’t need mones to find friends or get a date. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iois-from-strangers/39657/9 "2010-06-27T19:56:36Z")
> [@Coach](#): > > So if I get this right maxing out rone AND anone will make you attractive, which is why the ratios are different for everybody… I would need a lot of rone, you would need a little of both and someone in his fifties would need a lot of anone and no rone at all… > > Btw, I didn’t say which order I tried those mixes in 😉 I doubt if anyone really ever started with testing the stuff one at a time Not exactly maxing out, just finding the right ratio. Some guys can carry a very high none signal and make it work, some guys can totally look like a pervy horndog with the same signal, it also depends on the person effected. One girl might see a guy with A314 or IG as a sexy mature worldly type of guy she gets a crush on, another might see him as a dirty old man. Ultimately it’s about knowing what you want to say, considering who you’re saying it to and how to say it so they’ll be receptive. At 38 I’m interested in being seen as mature but still virile, dominant but still approachable, and sexy without being seen as a sheep fucking frat boy. I need this signal to be pretty across the board as I use mones both professionally and for attraction. I was enhancing with Ammo but given that I prefer women a bit younger than myself, I’ve been finding that MX301 seems to work better on my preffered age group when paired with a high Rone signal like A314 or MX347. I’ve also found that the TAC, TAA and Bnol in 301 work with the A314 to make it very worksafe in the right ratio. If I cut back on the rone, and upped the none, say by cutting to single drops of A314 and adding a spray each of TuTH and IJ, I’d probably attract women older than I normally like and kill the social vibe I enjoy at work. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 8:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iois-from-strangers/39657/10 "2010-06-27T20:02:17Z")
> [@Coach](#): > > Thanks M&M, I totally agree that getting attention isn’t the final goal and that to get real interest from somebody, you’ve got to show interest yourself… > > That being said, **there’s probably nothing that will impress your girl like getting random IOIs from girls you’ve never met before… Nothing that will impress your buddies like it either… or boost your confidence for that matter…** > > Actually I think that is the most significant edge that mones can give you… becoause you don’t need mones to find friends or get a date. No, getting attention is the final goal … DIHLs shouldn’t be on the list. Reading that, and seeing that you’re 22 … IF I WAS A PRO … I’d tell you 1 drop of A314 + socials, or 2 sprays of IG + socials, should be what you should play around. Annnnnnd, you can also use your free STEVE CARD (call him! 😉) You’re in Germany … I always thought GERMAN women would favor a nice stink of -none. Like I said, THOUGHT. ---
**Author:** ![Zenan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/bc8723/32.png) [@Zenan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zenan)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2010, 9:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iois-from-strangers/39657/11 "2010-06-27T21:28:14Z")
> [@Coach](#): > > I got some respect hits from male friends from anything containing A314 and lots of intimate conversation from female friends and acquaintances from anything containing IH… as for IOIs from strangers as described in almost all of the positive reports in the forum, there were none. > No flirty waitresses, no prolonged eye contact, no giggly girls, no DIHLs, little if any response to smiles… > I was in all cases well dressed, well groomed and although I’m no Radman, I’m pretty happy with my looks > > I’m overall already pretty happy with the results(self-effects, respect hits), I’m getting the “you smell so good” from female friends and guys want to hang out. My posture is better when wearing A314 and I’m more confident too. Girls that know me will come and talk my ear off when I’m wearing IH+IS, but what other mixes could I try to get some attention from girls that do not know me? > > nol seems to work great for people I know, > -none seems to have no effect at all > and rone gets respect from the guys… > Perhaps I need more rone at my age, as Rone production is slower in younger people? Coming to think of it IG is the only product that hasn’t done anything for me at all… Coach, your experience is identical to mine. Obvious hits of the appropriate nature from -rone and -nols, but nothing from strangers. Let me add some more of my experience, which may shed some light. I am living in France and I often visit Germany. When I’m in Germany, German girls look right through me, regardless of what I’m wearing. On the other hand, when I meet American and English girls, I actually DO get some of the hits like guys on this forum talk about. Nothing shocking, but alot of proximity (enticing me to open), glances when they think I’m not looking, and getting openned by the more outgoing ones. For me, -none seems to repel American girls, where Europeans don’t seem to react to it. I’ve never tested it with the English. As for French girls, the best I’ve managed is with [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) (it is similar to IG, but shinier). Perhaps, the same way random girls giving you attention makes your friends think you’re cool, I’m guessing that being the cool guy in the group gets girls looking your way. Also, MX297 will make American girls come up to me to ask for directions/help. Dunno if this is part of it, but I’m way short, shorter than most girls. I do dress well and project confidence. I hope this somehow helps. ---
**Author:** ![Coach](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coach/32/2317_2.png) [@Coach](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Coach)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2010, 1:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iois-from-strangers/39657/12 "2010-06-28T01:04:34Z")
> [@Zenan](#): > > Coach, your experience is identical to mine. Obvious hits of the appropriate nature from -rone and -nols, but nothing from strangers. > > Let me add some more of my experience, which may shed some light. I am living in France and I often visit Germany. When I’m in Germany, German girls look right through me, regardless of what I’m wearing. On the other hand, when I meet American and English girls, I actually DO get some of the hits like guys on this forum talk about. Nothing shocking, but alot of proximity (enticing me to open), glances when they think I’m not looking, and getting openned by the more outgoing ones. > > For me, -none seems to repel American girls, where Europeans don’t seem to react to it. I’ve never tested it with the English. Oh, this absolutely helps. There are cultural differences and the threshhold for an American girl to behave like that must be significantly lower than in Germany. > [@M\_M](#): > > No, getting attention is the final goal … DIHLs shouldn’t be on the list. I think getting the respect from your Date or friends might be a goal… attention is always a means to an end. > [@M\_M](#): > > You’re in Germany … I always thought GERMAN women would favor a nice stink of -none. Like I said, THOUGHT. Well, most I’ve worn so far was 5mcg of anone… So doing 10-15mcg might still be worth a try. Thanks.🆒