# IS 4x OD? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 2, 2014, 2:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-4x-od/61032 "2014-02-02T02:56:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jazzysax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbe5ce/32.png) [@jazzysax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jazzysax)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 2:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-4x-od/61032/1 "2014-02-02T02:56:42Z")
I’m considering trying out IS 4x for the first time. I tried looking at other forum posts, couldn’t find many info on it. I associate IS in general with happiness with self effects but also putting others in a good mood. If I were to try 4x, could I reach a wider audience or would that wear down the effect of it? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 10:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-4x-od/61032/2 "2014-02-02T10:59:32Z")
Nope - Sometimes its just right! 😃 Its a good economy measure really - If you are regularly using 4 sprays or more in your mixes, then its perfectly suited to cut down the amount of product/scent. Then there are those strange nights when a megadose seems useful but if you do, prepare for the crash to hit hard if it does! 😃 Personally, I keep IS in 2x and 4x for this reason - I seldom need just one spray! ---
**Author:** ![Jonny38](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Jonny38](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jonny38)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 1:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-4x-od/61032/3 "2014-02-03T13:33:57Z")
As Mobo on this, havent OD on Shine really only issue can be covering the scent and as Mobo says self effects can become a little too much. If you are going to do large doses then I would definetly take some days of now and again. I become very lethargic after a few on it (which great for regenerative sleep 😉) ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 2:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-4x-od/61032/4 "2014-02-03T14:27:19Z")
Another thing - Not so much with IO or IS but 4x IH is another product that comes into a class of its own for simple but highly effective mixes - 1-3 sprays 4xIH, with a little [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) or just some TUTH is a superb “I want to get lost in you” mix! The popularity of hard-hitting/mindbending mixes like this has declined since the price of 4x IH went through the roof, which is a shame! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Elvenrunelord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Elvenrunelord](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Elvenrunelord)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 5:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-4x-od/61032/5 "2014-02-04T05:51:39Z")
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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2014, 8:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-4x-od/61032/6 "2014-02-04T08:46:30Z")
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