# Is Ammo 2x really 2x ? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 12, 2011, 4:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-ammo-2x-really-2x/52795 "2011-10-12T16:43:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![omega25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a4c791/32.png) [@omega25](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/omega25)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 4:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-ammo-2x-really-2x/52795/1 "2011-10-12T16:43:44Z")
Hi, I have [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) 2X and I was very afraid of OD. So 1’ve tried 1 spray and it had moderate effects. Then I’ve tried 2 sprays of Ammo 2X and expected to see effects of OD, but to my suprise, it has been even more powerful than 1 spray. This seems odd to me (for my age), because I am actually more accepted when wearing 2 sprays of Ammo 2X (no defensiveness) than when I am wearing 2 sprays of IS 1X (people seems to notice me but many of them use defensive body language). Also, I have no self-effect from ammo (2X2), but I have strong self effect from IS, IO and IH, which works rather on me than on others. Another strange effect is, it (Ammo 2X) works best only for 2 -3 hours, then I have to reapply, whis is very hard in my situation. From my testing so far, Ammo is the best product I ever had, but is there any way, how to prolong duration of ammo up to 10 hours without reapplying it or is it possible to modify (customization) ammo in the way it will last for 10 - 12 hours after application ? ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 4:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-ammo-2x-really-2x/52795/2 "2011-10-12T16:47:54Z")
> [@omega25](#): > > Hi, I have Ammo 2X and I was very afraid of OD. > > So 1’ve tried 1 spray and it had moderate effects. > Then I’ve tried 2 sprays of Ammo 2X and expected to see effects of OD, but to my suprise, it has been even more powerful than 1 spray. > > This seems odd to me (for my age), because I am actually more accepted when wearing 2 sprays of Ammo 2X (no defensiveness) than when I am wearing 2 sprays of IS 1X (people seems to notice me but many of them use defensive body language). > > Also, I have no self-effect from ammo (2X2), but I have strong self effect from IS, IO and IH, which works rather on me than on others. > > Another strange effect is, it (Ammo 2X) works best only for 2 -3 hours, then I have to reapply, whis is very hard in my situation. > > From my testing so far, Ammo is the best product I ever had, but is there any way, how to prolong duration of ammo up to 10 hours without reapplying it or is it possible to modify (customization) ammo in the way it will last for 10 - 12 hours after application ? Buy some dpg, mix it in a little, and sweet spot test again. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 4:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-ammo-2x-really-2x/52795/3 "2011-10-12T16:57:56Z")
> [@omega25](#): > > From my testing so far, Ammo is the best product I ever had, but is there any way, how to prolong duration of ammo up to 10 hours without reapplying it or is it possible to modify (customization) ammo in the way it will last for 10 - 12 hours after application ? You can extend the active life of most pheros for a couple of hours by applying over lotion/moisturiser but I doubt any customiisation would go on as long as 10-12 hrs. The only AD product I’ve been able to extend to that sort of time is A314 oil, again by applying it over a fairly sturdy hand lotion. There is a good past thread on this. However, as P51 suggests, mixing into DPG might help, however you need to remember that oil mixes usually need a considerably hiigher dose for the same effectiveness. So maybe in this case, it might be a better idea to look at a competitors product - Something like Alter Ego perhaps? ---
**Author:** ![omega25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a4c791/32.png) [@omega25](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/omega25)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-ammo-2x-really-2x/52795/4 "2011-10-12T17:20:13Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Buy some dpg, mix it in a little, and sweet spot test again. And where can I buy it ? Is it possible buy it directly from Androtics ? ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-ammo-2x-really-2x/52795/5 "2011-10-12T17:25:46Z")
> [@omega25](#): > > And where can I buy it ? Is it possible buy it directly from Androtics ? [15 mL Cobalt Bottle with Dropper Top :: Mixing Supplies :: Androtics Direct](https://a314.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-ammo-2x-really-2x/52795/6 "2011-10-12T17:25:49Z")
What mobocaster said. Get an oil based thing from a competitor, Alpha7 and Alter Ego are my favorites so far. Either of those and A314 in a combo is what I usually put on if I leave home real early and expect to get back late and lack possibility to re-apply. John Sebastian said in some post that he would consider an oil based none product, what has happened in that area? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-ammo-2x-really-2x/52795/7 "2011-10-12T17:31:13Z")
Yes - I don’t know Alpha 7 but plenty here have reported good results with it but I’ve had excellent results with Alter Ego and especially when alongside A314. AE’s proportions are different to Ammo though. it is 2-none/1.5-nol/1-rone, so its a bit more overt. Don’t know what the exact mcg per drop is tho. ---
**Author:** ![omega25](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a4c791/32.png) [@omega25](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/omega25)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-ammo-2x-really-2x/52795/8 "2011-10-12T17:34:16Z")
> [@Misein](#): > > What mobocaster said. Get an oil based thing from a competitor, Alpha7 and Alter Ego are my favorites so far. Either of those and A314 in a combo is what I usually put on if I leave home real early and expect to get back late and lack possibility to re-apply. > > John Sebastian said in some post that he would consider an oil based none product, what has happened in that area? Ammo is the first product which really works the way I want - on me - on others - it’s like miracle (and I’ve tested many products and invested much money with low efficiency, I have still almost full bottles). I would like to stick with Ammo for a while. I just need somehow to make it last longer. It would be great if Androtics created Ammo in oil or special edition which wouldn’t have diffusion based on cologne and will be stealth. Thaks for your replies. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 5:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-ammo-2x-really-2x/52795/9 "2011-10-12T17:41:20Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Yes - I don’t know Alpha 7 but plenty here have reported good results with it but I’ve had excellent results with Alter Ego and especially when alongside A314. > > AE’s proportions are different to Ammo though. it is 2-none/1.5-nol/1-rone, so its a bit more overt. Don’t know what the exact mcg per drop is tho. I’m not sure but I think Alpha7 contains none and rone only, with the former dominating by a large margin. ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 5:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-ammo-2x-really-2x/52795/10 "2011-10-12T17:48:26Z")
> [@omega25](#): > > Ammo is the first product which really works the way I want - on me - on others - (and I’ve tested many products and invested much money with low efficiency, I have still almost full bottles). I would like to stick with Ammo for a while. I just need somehow to make it last longer. > > Thaks for your replies. 🙂 The bad news is chances are there is no way to extend it’s effects by as much as you’re looking to do. What could be good news is you can create something similar with chemset mones. I did so pretty early in the summer, mixed none, rone and nol with dpg and scented it with some EO’s. Would’ve been even better if the mones were oil based of course, but LS only carries them in ethanol. I haven’t gotten around to testing it yet, as I have plenty of stuff. Will do it one of these days. At least it smells good. I spent hours looking for tips on what EO’s to mix and came up with a pretty nice scent in the end. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2011, 6:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-ammo-2x-really-2x/52795/11 "2011-10-12T18:15:07Z")
> [@omega25](#): > > It would be great if Androtics created Ammo in oil or special edition which wouldn’t have diffusion based on cologne and will be stealth. I think we would all like that! 🙂 Am I remembering right that AD did have a none-based oil mix in testing a while back (3-4 years) but further development was shelved? Maybe time to pitch for a new round of testing? I’d go for it, esp after the good results I’ve had from A314-Extra None. 🙂 In the meantime, give Ammo over lotion a go - You ought to be pleasantly surprised! 🙂