# Is Instant Shine mixed with Turn Up The Heat the same as Ammo?

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**Created:** [August 20, 2009, 2:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-instant-shine-mixed-with-turn-up-the-heat-the-same-as-ammo/31735 "2009-08-20T14:49:31Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 11:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-instant-shine-mixed-with-turn-up-the-heat-the-same-as-ammo/31735/3 "2009-08-21T11:30:54Z")

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Each of the premade series are in specific ‘working’ ratios. If you mix them together you would change those ratios and possibly ruin the product. Most people layer multiple pruducts.

Also, while some products share similar [pheromones](https://a314.com/), their not always the same.

From other threads:  
Ammo: Androstenone Androsterone and Alpha Androstenol  
TUTH: Androstenone with 7 other steering compounds no buffers  
Instant shine: TAA and a couple of other pheromones (taf is one)

So Ammo probabily does not contain anything Instant shine has at least to associate it as shine. Shine is TAA heavy. Ammo is more an ‘all rounder’ IIRC, TUTH is more specific and heavy.

> [@Diane's Phero Notes](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/dianes-phero-notes/23360):
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> These are my compiled research notes based on my post searches and also based on my own and my husband’s experimentation. Please feel free to add to this post, correct where needed and add your own experiences with any of these. Forgive me for not crediting anyone for the work you’ve done, which I’ve unashamedly stolen for the compilation below. You all have my gratitude as do each of those who continue to test, test, test, and report on these and other molecules. Pheromones notes: A314/m –…

> [@\-none, -rone, -nol explained](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720):
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> Here is a description of all of these found on another site and as a newB I found it to be very helpful: Androstenone (a.k.a -none, Anone): Signals dominance and aggression, quite competitive. -none is often associated with a sexual response, but by no means exclusively. Androstenol (a.k.a -nol, Anol): Signals youth, and sociability, often induces lots of talking, friendliness and comfort. As it often seems to cause conversation, it can be a good ice breaker. Androsterone (a.k.a -rone, …

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