# Is it possible to born without pheromone at all?

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**Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [May 31, 2009, 12:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-it-possible-to-born-without-pheromone-at-all/29431 "2009-05-31T12:44:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Renarde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b5a626/32.png) [@Renarde](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Renarde)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 12:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-it-possible-to-born-without-pheromone-at-all/29431/1 "2009-05-31T12:44:52Z")

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Hi People!

I’m new with the pheromone perfums world and I have a question to ask you. Is it possible for someone to have naturally any [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) or sex-appeal?  
Let me explain my question a little bit further…

I admit myself to be somewhat good looking. Not the most beautiful girl around but let say a little bit above the average. I’m not fat (I have nothing against fat people, but sadly it is a beauty critere from our superficial century -\_-),I don’t have any major flaws like a big nose, crooked teeth or other things like that considered as “ugly”. I’m always taking care of my hair, my clothes and so on…I considere myself also to be kind, polite and always on the go to help out…

But mysteriously people tend to “runaway” from me for no reason at all…  
I never had any boyfriend in my life and I’m like 23 years old even if I try very hard to make the “first steps” with some of them.  
Since childhood and teenhood, I used to have always difficulty to befriend people.At my office (and other offices I was hired in it) during lunch or break times, people always ignored me in their conversations! Even if I try to join them. It is like if I was a “ghost” even if I try to be active with them! I say something…but the conversation don’t go further, it stays flaw and people start to talk of something else without acknowledge my point of view.  
People tend also to never notice me (even if my taller than the average women I’m 1m77).They are always like “Oh I didn’t see you” “Oh you was there? Since when?” or step on my feet while they were move back.

When I go to the gym, the trainers are always very kind with the other members and always ask them how their exercices are doing or talking about the weather with them but never with me…Like if I was uninteresting or disgusting…Even the other people of the gym stared at me with a nasty look…No! I swear,I don’t have any paranoia! It is the truth!

When I tried to date some guys on the Internet, when I sent to them pictures of me, they are totally dazzled by me but when they’re meeting me for the first time, I can see that they’re uninteressed with me…

I’m really starting to ask myself some questions…What’s wrong with me?

Do you think all these strange things happening to me could be really caused by a lack of “natural pheromones”? If yes, which perfum could help me out?

But I found a weird exception to all that…  
I notice that I’m attractive among asians (I’m not asian at all and I live in a town that they’re not many of them). Don’t know why but I was in Japan a while ago and the opposite thing happened to me, the guys were starring at me, even approached me to know me better, told me that I was beautiful (I was with other foreigner girls but it was always with me that they wanted to start a chat) and so on…And when I was in an English immersion in a English province of Canada, every asians who was studying with me wanted to be my friend and wnated to eat with me like if I was a “superstar”…But the other “caucasians students” were ignored me like always though…

Really, I’m puzzeled…

Phew…Hope that you have the courage to read all my story. Please forgive my English, is not my native language at all and I’m the best language student around -\_- Thank you for your understanding! And I hope you will be able to help me!!!

Bye bye!!!

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 1:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-it-possible-to-born-without-pheromone-at-all/29431/2 "2009-05-31T13:25:11Z")

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Hello Welcome to Pherotalk

First let me say there is nothing wrong with you.

No its not possible to be born with no mones at all. You could produce low amounts. If you really hygienic they get washed away easily but you make them. Different medical problems with your hormones could cause lack of secretion of mones. There are many different mones the body makes as well and some people just don’t make enough of the right ones or to much of the wrong ones. Science hasn’t gotten that far in figuring out why but a little experimentation with synthetic mones can help.

First if you don’t mind my asking. What race are you ? I am assuming your not on Birth control but hey some women use the pill for other reasons so I thought I would ask. It does make a big difference if you are.

Your between 5"9 and 5"10 and your have a athletic build so you may make more of the male mones depending on your race. Russian and German women tend to have a higher output of male mones from what I have been reading. It shouldn’t be so much that men run from you though.

No offence but some people just have cold or flat personalities and this could be it. Not saying you do but we have to consider all the options and this is easy to fix with mones and some practice. Sex appeal is mostly attitude anyways.

Another thing to consider is Body language. We don’t just communicate with verbal or pheromonal cues. Body language is another form of communication and if you tend to have a more withdrawn closed posture it can make people shy away. There is a link in my signature below that will help you with that.

Now the first mone I would suggest is Ishine. This will warm up your personality and draw people to you more. It says for men on it but its unisex and the women users love it.

I also suggest you look into [Instant sexiness B](https://phera.com/product/kitten/). I suggest (B) because its soft and sexy as opposed to A which is more dominant.

Next try some IO to increase communication and Interaction with others. It gets then talking more to you.

Now I would surf on over to Lovescent and pick up some EOW Essence of Women. Read this post to learn how to use it \>\>\>\>\> `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/womens-pheromone-advice-tips-tricks/newbie-few-questions-1756.html`

They offer to-go size bottles here so you can try a few things out at a low cost. **I am sending a copy of your post up to the introduction section of the forum so you can qualify for a $25 Gift certificate to the store. be sure to check both sections for replies**

That should give you a good start. Stick with us, the ladies here are great (so are the guys) and we talk about more then mones. We cover all sorts of ideals and insights on attraction.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![Renarde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b5a626/32.png) [@Renarde](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Renarde)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 2:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-it-possible-to-born-without-pheromone-at-all/29431/3 "2009-05-31T14:19:45Z")

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Wow! Already a post to my topic?  
Thank you very much!

Yes, I read some posts there and there and I must admit that people seem very kind and fun to hanging out with them.

Actually, to answer to your question, I’m French-Canadian from Quebec but I don’t fit in the French-Canadian “mould” (French-Canadians are smaller in height than the average North Americans). I like your theory about the relation between the “athletic build” and male mones…That could explain a lot of things…

I knew that some [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) perfum could give me a little hand!  
I think I will go with Instant Sexiness B because while I was surfing on this forum, it seems to be the more used among the forum members and I have only read good comments about it.  
It sad though that the shipping rates are so expensive for international shipment \>\_\< The shipping will cost me more than the product!

See ya!

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 4:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-it-possible-to-born-without-pheromone-at-all/29431/4 "2009-06-01T04:42:28Z")

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I’m no scientist, but I do have a theory.

You probably are creating little or similar pheromones to the ones that Asians produce as I’ve found that many Asians also complain about having very few pheromones.

Different animals produce pheromones to communicate with each other and I believe we humans produce different signatures depending on what race we are which is probably why you weren’t accepted into the group humans you were around.

I guess saying the signatures are different only because of race wouldn’t support the theory of you having the same signature as Asians since you would have to be Asian, but perhaps it’s possible for, but quite rare, for a handful of people to have the same type of signature as another race. Your signature might be strange and unpleasing to people in your race, but to Asians it’s just the right blend and they are drawn to it.

Idk if adding sprays will help your signature to change as sprays have to work with your own body chemistry. But hey, at least you know Asians like you. Who doesn’t love Asians 🙂

I don’t think it’s your personality at all. You seem like a nice person and if you were able to communicate with someone online and they liked you then I think you’re alright.  
Besides that, the fact that you said people give you weird looks is a sure sign that they are indeed picking up a signature that they don’t agree with. I know from time to time I find myself not liking a person for no reason.

We’re more primitive than we think I suppose

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 7:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-it-possible-to-born-without-pheromone-at-all/29431/5 "2009-06-01T07:40:53Z")

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Renarde, you seem to describing a sort of “ghost effect.” That is, you are there but people tend to ignore or exclude you. I suffered from a similar affliction for years. Many times I recall standing in line and, when my turns comes, the worker ignores me and asks the person behind me if they can help them! Shamefully, I didn’t get my first steady GF until I was 23 and a graduate student! I always stuck out in the first 30 seconds or so. Oddly I had no problem bedding drunken hoes at my gigs but I was usually punished with painful tinkle a few days later.

It took me a few years to figure out it was a problem with body language and facial expressions. I’m Asian, born in Korea and raised among other Asians. I somehow learned a Buddha like stance of no expression and a neutral body posture. To Westerners it appears you are uninterested and they move on to somebody else. I was also told I appeared to be acting stuck up and aloof! People were often afraid or uncomfortable around me. The funny thing is I was a very expressive musician and actor on stage and finally realized I needed to “act” in real life. Luckily I could turn it on like a light switch. And, damn, when I did that the results were immediate and amazing. I felt like a fake but couldn’t argue with the results. Now my public persona is totally extroverted and I truly believe playing the part has everything to do with my professional and social success. I can also say my younger sister has the same problem, is very beautiful, well educated but is jobless and boyfriendless, living at home with our aging parents…

And, yeah, all the smiling, listening and responding with confident words and gestures involves a lot of work and effort. Sometimes I just wanna be like a stone Buddha again. And the mones do help amp up your words and actions. However the key is having the right words and actions to amp up.
