# Is it possible to OD on small amounts of SOE? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 15, 2008, 10:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-it-possible-to-od-on-small-amounts-of-soe/8332 "2008-01-15T22:54:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 21
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-it-possible-to-od-on-small-amounts-of-soe/8332/21 "2008-01-27T22:11:37Z")
> [@jonno101](#): > > James & other posters, thanks for the follow up replies. As the Original Poster I should re-emphasise my original intention and clear a couple things up. > > I have only used Scent of Eros on the inside of my forearms, wrists and/or behind the ear and on my neck. Not in massive quantities either. > > But my original post was to find out whether I may have naturally produced alot of ‘whatever’ to the point that only a relatively small amount of Scent of Eros tipped me into what I incorrectly termed OD. > > I know this wasn’t the suggestion 😛, but I don’t put Scent of Eros or any other of these products any where near my pits 😮. Only basic deodorant. I’m a twice a day many (shower, that it is -I’ve been married too long for that).😕. I shower twice a day and anyone who knows England in mid-winter…it’s pretty damn hard to work up a sweat outside of the gym. > > I have no doubt about the efficacy of Scent of Eros. My only questions were (and still are) around how high (or not) my own natural levels of some of these things might be and how those products might push me over some limit **with certain women**. > > Interestingly, the lady/co-colleague who have me a slightly negative vibe after just 2 days use was one who’d previously given me IOI on numerous occasions. Perhaps this was just my mis-reading things or maybe she just had a crappy day? > > Anyways, thanks again. My experimentation continues (am having great results with A314, Instant Openness, Instant Shine) and am still dabbling in Scent of Eros. 🆒 jonno, the problem may have _not_ been that you are producing some of these pheromones naturally and consequently were ODing. **Rather, you might have simply got indifference from people because Scent of Eros can give off a ‘lightweight’ vibe of the wearer especially if the person isn’t acting alpha with it on. The woman in question might have been giving you more IOIs before you tried the pheromones because the vibe you gave off then was more masculine and that’s what she was more attracted to.** Below are some posts on the Scent of Eros ‘lightweight effect’ that can happen for some people (only when it is NOT buffered by other things, of course, like [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) and/or [Androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) for example). To be fair some of the posts below highlight that one can make use of being ‘nice’ as well and I have included JVK’s response as well to be fair… Rob’s posts at the end of this compilation alert us to the fact that this effect is quite prevalent across virtually all the friendly molecules. Lets read the following lest some guy turns into a ‘goofy smiling candyass’ by wearing friendly molecules on their own around his peers and not acting ‘manly’ enough. Of course if you are good at flirting then this might not be a bad strategy but for your average guy I think wearing friendly molecules on their own wouldn’t be the best option (especially considering the variety of pheromones/mixes we now have at our disposal courtesy of Androtics)… * * * bjf (February 24, 2003): " **Scent of Eros – Too Nice?** **I wonder if some women are turned off with a guy with too much [Androstenol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)…i.e. too nice, too wimpy, can walk all over him.** maybe i am wrong about it." SonnyBlack (February 24, 2003): “**ive always wondered about this as well…I think girls see you as such (wimpy, weak, not able to protect them) when you have too much Androstenol on. Ive worn Scent of Eros a couple of times and and I kinda noticed such reactions while doing so…or maybe it was just that im used to having naturally high levels of none and when I added [Androstenol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) it sorta freaked me out**…” bjf (February 24, 2003): "**the only time i have ever worn more [Androstenol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) then none i thought a bunch of guys behind me were considering robbing me and a girl basically felt “wht can u do for me, you couldn’t take care of me” type-deal. Guys were nice, except for the guys who wanted to rob me** . I am interested to see how women reacted to other guys with much higher [Androstenol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) to none/Androsterone ratio" Proteus (February 24, 2003): " **I tend to agree that with Scent of Eros you tend to be perceived as too nice - so especially when I hit the clubs if I use Scent of Eros I definitely use it with some -none, specifically JB#1**. But sometimes being perceived as " too nice " works great as you can move in on the ladies in kind of a stealth mode. Once I have her talking, which Scent of Eros is very good at doing, then I can use my skills to seduce her. If one approaches -Androstenol products from this perspective, you can in many ways be more successful with women than if you use -none products because they are already “comfortable” with you and if your seduction skills are good, then the rest is easy. I think of it this way - -none, when it works well, will have her ready to jump you without too much work, whereas -Androstenol may not induce this reaction, but from a percentage scale you can get to “talk” with a lot more women, and take it from there. So for the less skilled seductionists go with -none, but if you have skills, then I think -Androstenol products are much better for you. Just my two cents." franki (February 24, 2003): "…**The only problem with Androstenol alone, IMO, is that when you are already a nice guy yourself, and you are only wearing [Androstenol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), you are missing something.** Personally I ALWAYS feel I am missing something when I don’t put on the tiniest bit of none. I really don’t believe in the theory that too much [Androstenol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) (on its own) makes one too nice…" jvkohl (February 25, 2003): “Some people may be forgetting that -Androstenol has been shown to effect hormone levels (luteinizing hormone:LH, and follicle stimulating hormone) in women. This effect is always beneficial in other mammals; it is the typical response to pheromones from the opposite sex. An increase in LH will be followed by an increase in testosterone, which is very effective with regard to increasing libido, in both men and women. Scent of Eros may be too nice, but it also provides a nice push in the right direction: towards increased interest in sex.” Shenandoah (April 27, 2006): “… **One does not want to over do the Scent of Eros. It could make you seem too friendly – that is a “push over,” a light weight, or a people pleaser** …” PheroBlog Futurist (January 7, 2006): “…Scent of Eros – This has a [pheromone formula](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) that gives off social effects, such as chattyness. **Wear too much of it and you will seem overly wimpy.** A good product, but doesn’t serve as a sexual attractant as it claims to. However, if you are a clint east wood type guy, a biker type, a body builder, etc, then this will likely take away some of the intimidation you produce in women and make you more attractive…” [A314 is the best I've used but it's out of stock: when will it be back? - #21 by Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314/648/21) Rob (September 26, 2006): “NPA can generate negative effects… but you must take into account all pheremones do. The way I see it.. if androstenone gives an extra sex vibe, I’m sure I can put up with alittle bitchiness=) **Then again things like too much -nols or comfort [pheromones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314/648) may have a happy or relaxing vibe.. yet at the same time they can also give a “weakness” and "my P**sy hurts" vibe when used in excess. Well I should know, because I like to [OD](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacodynamics) when I first get any new pheremone.” [Does Androstenol affect men negatively?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/18) Rob (September 26, 2006): “**Any guy should not wear too much laughing feel good pheremones like Androstonel or TAA (IS). It’ll just end up turning you into some goofy smiling candyass. It may make you in some instances the life of the party, but really.. there is nothing sexy about a clown.**” [Does Androstenol affect men negatively?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/21) Rob (September 26, 2006): “ **lol. Theres a big difference between being a funny clown and being an attractive guy who can talk about funny things =P** ” --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-it-possible-to-od-on-small-amounts-of-soe/8332)._