# Is MEO-EST Methoxyestratetraenone, and what does it actually do for $200? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 6, 2012, 4:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-meo-est-methoxyestratetraenone-and-what-does-it-actually-do-for-200/54103 "2012-01-06T16:04:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Veratus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/cdc98d/32.png) [@Veratus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Veratus)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 4:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-meo-est-methoxyestratetraenone-and-what-does-it-actually-do-for-200/54103/1 "2012-01-06T16:04:34Z")
I’ve searched the forums but found nothing, UNLESS MEO-EST is [Methoxyestratetraenone](https://phera.com/) ? Everything I read on MEO-EST is stating that it is an enhancer but no real detail on it. It’s OOS now, but for $200 what does this stuff do, turn water into wine? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 4:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-meo-est-methoxyestratetraenone-and-what-does-it-actually-do-for-200/54103/2 "2012-01-06T16:16:29Z")
Yes Meo est is Methoxyestratetraenone. Its not sold here anymore. Meo est is an equilin estrogen steroid that naturally occurs in the urine of pregnant horses. Its what they make Estrogen replacement drugs out of. Its a known carcinogen. In the human body its only found in damaged tissues. Personally in my opinion the risk outweighs the benefit of this one. Pheromonally it has not shown consistency in its affects which makes it another poor candidate for [pheromone formulas](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). There are many substances that chemically signal and communicate information. Some are safe and others are not. AD sticks to the safe ones and if there is even the smallest concern they discontinue it as they did with A1. You will see many rogue users who think they know what they are doing but haven’t a clue or fly by night companies using substances in mixes with disregard for those using them. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Veratus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/cdc98d/32.png) [@Veratus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Veratus)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 4:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-meo-est-methoxyestratetraenone-and-what-does-it-actually-do-for-200/54103/3 "2012-01-06T16:34:05Z")
Well, what a great explanation. Thanks! Glad AD is looking after us. You’re just the person I need to talk to also (while I de-rail my own thread) I am very much the nice guy when it comes to dating, and as we know nice guys finish last. My dating mix is: 1x [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) + 1x 15mcg [TAA](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) + 1x 12.5 p93 As a female what would you say about that mix? Should I change things up a bit to give me a more bad guy approach? ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 4:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-meo-est-methoxyestratetraenone-and-what-does-it-actually-do-for-200/54103/4 "2012-01-06T16:41:07Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Yes Meo est is Methoxyestratetraenone. Its not sold here anymore. > > Meo est is an equilin estrogen steroid that naturally occurs in the urine of pregnant horses. > > Its what they make Estrogen replacement drugs out of. Its a known carcinogen. In the human body its only found in damaged tissues. > > Personally in my opinion the risk outweighs the benefit of this one. > > Pheromonally it has not shown consistency in its affects which makes it another poor candidate for pheromone formulas. There are many substances that chemically signal and communicate information. Some are safe and others are not. AD sticks to the safe ones and if there is even the smallest concern they discontinue it as they did with A1. You will see many rogue users who think they know what they are doing but haven’t a clue or fly by night companies using substances in mixes with disregard for those using them. > > Tisha Awww… that’s a real shame. MEO-EST is my staple [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) for calming me down when I get upset, or preventing me from getting upset. I only use 7.5 mcg at a time, and only maybe twice a year… but I can see where they’d not want to be selling a carcinogen. Anything else have the effect of diffusing frustration/anger? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 4:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-meo-est-methoxyestratetraenone-and-what-does-it-actually-do-for-200/54103/5 "2012-01-06T16:55:44Z")
You can get Meo-Est in other places and I have played around with it a little but I don’t think I’ll be continuing with it after I’ve finished this bottle. There are other phero combinations that can replicate its uplifting/comforting impression without the risks and supply problems. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-meo-est-methoxyestratetraenone-and-what-does-it-actually-do-for-200/54103/6 "2012-01-06T17:06:42Z")
I know where to get it… but having already had cancer once, I’d like to keep it that way. I’ve just never seen anything take me from losing it flipping out raging maniac (as happens sometimes if I have low blood sugar, not enough sleep and am frustrated at the same time) to completely chill and tranquil in 10 minutes flat, and makes me damned near unflappable. I have used the stuff to avoid fights and arguments with fantastic success. Which combinations? I have been away for a while, and I am catching up still. ---
**Author:** ![Veratus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/cdc98d/32.png) [@Veratus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Veratus)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 5:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-meo-est-methoxyestratetraenone-and-what-does-it-actually-do-for-200/54103/7 "2012-01-06T17:14:36Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > I know where to get it… but having already had cancer once, I’d like to keep it that way. I’ve just never seen anything take me from losing it flipping out raging maniac (as happens sometimes if I have low blood sugar, not enough sleep and am frustrated at the same time) to completely chill and tranquil in 10 minutes flat, and makes me damned near unflappable. > > I have used the stuff to avoid fights and arguments with fantastic success. Which combinations? I have been away for a while, and I am catching up still. That’s interesting as I have quiet the temper on me, so I’d be interested also. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 5:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-meo-est-methoxyestratetraenone-and-what-does-it-actually-do-for-200/54103/8 "2012-01-06T17:15:28Z")
> [@](#): > > I am very much the nice guy when it comes to dating, and as we know nice guys finish last. My dating mix is: > 1x [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) + 1x 15mcg [TAA](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) + 1x 12.5 [p93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) > > As a female what would you say about that mix? Should I change things up a bit to give me a more bad guy approach? I would say its a very alpha male mix. Strong and attractive. You could use a little TUTH to increase the sexy to it. Perhaps some [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) to loosen people up while still maintaining status. > [@](#): > > Awww… that’s a real shame. MEO-EST is my staple pheromone for calming me down when I get upset, or preventing me from getting upset. I only use 7.5 mcg at a time, and only maybe twice a year… but I can see where they’d not want to be selling a carcinogen. Anything else have the effect of diffusing frustration/anger? Hi Catlord Have you tried TAC ? It tends to mellow a person out and relax them. P96 would also be a good candidate but good luck getting your hands on that one. P103 is another you may want to look at. I cant say it would prevent you from getting upset but its tends to be carefree and uplifting. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Veratus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/cdc98d/32.png) [@Veratus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Veratus)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-meo-est-methoxyestratetraenone-and-what-does-it-actually-do-for-200/54103/9 "2012-01-06T20:20:40Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > I would say its a very alpha male mix. Strong and attractive. > > You could use a little TUTH to increase the sexy to it. Perhaps some P83 to loosen people up while still maintaining status. > > Tisha 1/2 spray to 1 full of TUTH I’d agree. I had a great chat with Steve today who introduced me to [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) and P97. I shall commence my testing with TAA and see where it leads in a dating, work, and friend setting. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-meo-est-methoxyestratetraenone-and-what-does-it-actually-do-for-200/54103/10 "2012-01-06T20:27:41Z")
@ Tisha / Catlord Or TAK, IMO. Though, I agree with Tisha on the TAC as it does mellow me out and nothing seems to phase me with it. TAK is more of a comatose, taking a few hits of the MJ… kind of feel… Depending on the level of Rage, I think it could also do the job of relaxed carefreeness. ---
**Author:** ![ochrismongrelo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ochrismongrelo/32/318_2.png) [@ochrismongrelo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ochrismongrelo)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2012, 2:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-meo-est-methoxyestratetraenone-and-what-does-it-actually-do-for-200/54103/11 "2012-01-07T02:11:40Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > Awww… that’s a real shame. MEO-EST is my staple pheromone for calming me down when I get upset, or preventing me from getting upset. I only use 7.5 mcg at a time, and only maybe twice a year… but I can see where they’d not want to be selling a carcinogen. Anything else have the effect of diffusing frustration/anger? TAA or TAC 🙂 Both of those are like two sides of the same coin… TAA makes people happy go lucky-ish, and TAC makes people happy but calm and relaxed. Let’s not mention the incidental effects of tac on none 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-meo-est-methoxyestratetraenone-and-what-does-it-actually-do-for-200/54103/12 "2012-01-07T20:28:46Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Yes Meo est is Methoxyestratetraenone. Its not sold here anymore. > > Tisha ahemmm [Methoxyestratetraenone :: Putative Pheromones :: Androtics Direct](https://phera.com/) 12 on stock !!! **Pago** ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-meo-est-methoxyestratetraenone-and-what-does-it-actually-do-for-200/54103/13 "2012-01-07T21:36:08Z")
> [@Pagodeiro](#): > > ahemmm > > [Methoxyestratetraenone :: Putative Pheromones :: Androtics Direct](https://phera.com/) > > 12 on stock !!! > > **Pago** Wow, that is a surprise. I am very shocked and disappointed with AD for making the decision to restock this one. Its been out for the last 2 years. I find it ironic they claim to not sell A1 because it can cause depression but they have no problem selling something that’s a known carcinogen and not even a [human pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/). Thanks for pointing it out Pago I still strongly suggest people steer clear of it. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![cjw255](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/45deac/32.png) [@cjw255](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cjw255)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2012, 4:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-meo-est-methoxyestratetraenone-and-what-does-it-actually-do-for-200/54103/14 "2012-01-23T04:43:38Z")
I was gonna say I thought I saw it available a little while ago…I haven’t done my research on it and was curious about it…but if its that bad…😕 and how about Methoxyestratetraenol?? also a new one for me.. ---
**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2012, 6:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-meo-est-methoxyestratetraenone-and-what-does-it-actually-do-for-200/54103/15 "2012-01-23T06:24:03Z")
What I have read is that with **Methoxyestratetraenone** comes estrogen. As a man you don’t want to douse yourself with this stuff because it can increase bodyfat and potentially reduce your sex drive…no bueno! However you can lessen the side effects buy spraying it on your cloths or just limit the stuff in moderation. ---
**Author:** ![Wyatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Wyatt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wyatt)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 9:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-meo-est-methoxyestratetraenone-and-what-does-it-actually-do-for-200/54103/16 "2014-01-21T21:49:39Z")
Been trying to find a spot to report this stuff, so I guess it’ll be in this thread. Two solo tests so far: 50mcg sprayed on the shoulders of my clothing in FF20 Himalayan scent. Initial impressions: On the Himalayan scent: I’s my third favourite of AD’s line but kinda like [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) at 6% in that it’s very light, and you could probably cover it, but not certain of that. Kinda a sandalwood note to it, but yet to pin the rest down as my nose for perfumes is very untrained. Would suit an older man best, but I wouldn’t mind it on a lady. About the meo-est: It has an initial calming effect that stays for about 2 and a half hours for full effects, down to still consciously noticeable for about 4 or 5 hours. Comparisons to similar mones I’ve tried: TAC mellows me out more in actions, but not near the level of a calmness feeling. That is, I’m not ruffled by stuff nor am I likely to take action to ruffle things with TAC on (meo-est differs a bit here). P74, I wouldn’t say this is a mellow mone, more of just good feelings and a positive edge on things, and with P74 I find the good feelings start off initially small, but build and build and build before peaking. Also similarities to P83, but will report further down below. With meo-est, I’ll feel calm, but it’s an instant on/instant off mone. Slap on the shirt and instantly I feel a certain calm uplifting feeling, but it peaks within 4 to 5 seconds and doesn’t build like P74 does. TAC seems more stealth here, the mellow calmness feeling of TAC is very, very light in comparison, but how it affects my actions is noticeable, but that took lots of testing. Whereas with meo-est, if something riles me, and here is the interesting thing about his mone, I take action on it, and say F-it, speak/say what’s on your mind/go with this mood/feeling/instinct, but then immediately drop back to the calm, slightly uplifted feeling of this mone when I’ve said or done what I felt was needed. Contrasted with P83: I’d say P83 lowers inhibitions whereas meo-est doesn’t seem to, however with both mones there is a certain F-it quality and just try it/do it attitude, but that part seemed a bit more pronounced with meo-est (I usually run about 20mcg P83 though, so they might be 1:1 here). What I’m saying is if you want to act on a certain feeling, both mones seem to enhance your ability/desire to react/act, but with meo-est, it more seems to temporarily amplify a certain emotion so you’ll act on it, but the moment it passes you’re back to normal, but doesn’t seem to open up as many doors as P83 does for ranges of behaviour that you’ll just go with/try. Effects on others: Yet to notice any, but will test more (just not enough targets the first time (3 in three hours) and the second was just all couples about me. Yet to test on a girlfriend). Guessing it might lower LMR if it’s at all like my F-it experience that I noticed multiple times over a night. If interested in this mone read up on it as some reports show that it might be carcinogenic and many guys report weight gain/water bloating. Thus I only apply it on clothing and a bit far from my nose.