# is my BF immune to cops?

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**Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [May 16, 2007, 11:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-my-bf-immune-to-cops/3696 "2007-05-16T11:40:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 2:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-my-bf-immune-to-cops/3696/41 "2007-05-18T14:29:49Z")

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> [@sophie](#):
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> However, having said that, there is an issue with him!!! He is absolutely petrified of making this a more serious relationship. Every so often he goes cool on me, when I noticed this and asked why was he like scared, he became very defensive, said that he wasn´t and then said he knows how far he can let himself go!!
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> Then after a few weeks its back to normal!!! So its like he doesn´t want to feel vulnerable or something by being committed. The problem is, I really love this guy, he has always been the love of my life! I want to see if we can make it work this time. When we split up, we both went through a bad time for months!!!
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> I am hoping that maybe there is something that will make him lose his inhibitions, cos he is a loving, caring guy. We get on really well. It used to be me who was scared of being hurt, but now it looks as if its him!!!  
> I will try the Instant Honesty and see if that helps!!
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> By the way, sorry about all the outpourings about my love life, but maybe I am seeing this guy the wrong way, and there are some of you who see things differently!!! Any advice is very welcome!!

Well, if you truly love him, I think I would lay off of the [sexual pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/sensual-pheromones/) for a while. You need to allow him to decide what he wants, in his own time. He may be feeling the pheromones, and in a subconcious way, it is making him feel pressured into making things more serious. Imagine it, he is continually getting the “do me now” signal from the copulins you’re wearing…and he is struggling to not get serious about you…I can only imagine what kind of inner turmoil this is causing him.

Get yourself some IHonesty, this may help to open the lines of communication more with him. Don’t discuss the “relationship” for a little while…just be there for him, and be his friend. In the long run, this will go much further with him than you think.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 3:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-my-bf-immune-to-cops/3696/42 "2007-05-18T15:01:56Z")

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spreading points so that i can come back here lol

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**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 3:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-my-bf-immune-to-cops/3696/43 "2007-05-18T15:17:24Z")

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> [@Lor](#):
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> heres how these opinions came to be…  
> when i was pregnant with my second son, something bizarre happened to me, and it was unsettling enough to cause a doctor visit.  
> I went through about 2 months of on and off _intense_ horniness or frustration. it wasnt fun,it was aweful. i hated it.  
> doc said it was temporary and due to hormones caused from baby, not me (weird) and it did subside, but if this is how boys feel, i never want to come back as one 😃

OMG!!! This explains so much…when I was pregnant with my son, I went through much the same thing (but never asked the doc about it)…uncontrollable horniness…😮 …I wanted it ALL the time…after a while, like you, it subsided. WOW…thanks for posting that…you learn something new every day…

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**Author:** ![May](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/may/32/1909_2.png) [@May](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/May)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 6:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-my-bf-immune-to-cops/3696/44 "2007-05-18T18:32:25Z")

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Hi,

More on the cops front. I wanted to check the “second day” factor of EoW and I must say, I was pleasantly surprised.

I got a lot of noticeable reactions today. I got a lot of long looks from men, men falling over themselves to be helpful and being very smiley and attentive into the bargain. One guy was so busy grinning at me he walked straight past his bus stop and had to double-back! Which was somewhat unusual!😛

It does seem strange that it would work better on the second day, is this because a reaction takes place with the body’s own chemical mantle, or is it simply better at a lower dose? Perhaps at high concentrations some, although they recognise the “fertile” signal, might be overwhelmed when faced with it at levels that would normally signify perhaps 100 fertile women standing right under their noses? Perhaps that signal is so loud it gets tuned out? If so, should I try using a lot less? 😕

All in all, I had a fab day today. Friendly, smiley and giggly. I’d like to figure out how to get that level on a fresh application. Wonder what the half life of eow is?

May

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**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 6:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-my-bf-immune-to-cops/3696/45 "2007-05-18T18:42:02Z")

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Some of the other ladies here state that they have a similar experience…that the residual effects are better than the day of application.

Glad to hear that you had such a good day, and are having fun with the copulins!!

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**Author:** ![LaurieNY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@LaurieNY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaurieNY)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 6:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-my-bf-immune-to-cops/3696/46 "2007-05-18T18:56:46Z")

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> [@](#):
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> that _as it is re-read a few times_ it will begin to be taken the way it was meant…  
> typing out a response has the misadvantage of being taken in different ways _depending on the temperment of the person reading_… 🙂

Like a game of Telephone, Lor? 😉

Sophie, dolly took the words right out of my mouth–I was also going to suggest loading up on the IH instead of cops; it will help him to feel comfortable and not so scared and then maybe he will talk to you. And maybe some P74, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) or Shine along with it to lighten the mood.

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**Author:** ![chirimoya](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chirimoya/32/1538_2.png) [@chirimoya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chirimoya)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 8:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-my-bf-immune-to-cops/3696/47 "2007-05-18T20:38:53Z")

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Lor, I used about 4 sprays of 10mcg TAF, so it wasn’t insignificant!

To Sophie, I also went thru a break up/get back together with my now-BF. I too feel the same way (love of my life) and he was also hesitant and afraid to take things further. Just the other day, he asked me to move in with him! How did we get here? I learned (the hard way) to not pressure him AT ALL. If I had to bite my tongue, swallow my words, whatever I had to do, I taught myself to not do relationship talk and I also kept my eye on the prize, so to speak. I felt a certainty in my heart and soul that this was the man for me, and I was going to see it thru to its completion (movement forward or another breakup). I had to learn to relax into the relationship, and live for myself, as though we would NEVER progress. At times, it was hard getting thru a day, because I’d ask myself “if you’re so unsure he wants to be with you, why are you bothering?” But I just steeled myself against these doubts, telling myself that in ANY relationship, I should still behave the same, and never forget about my own life, my own needs, my own future, whether I was with him or not.

While there are still miles to go, I feel good about having to learned how to “speak male,” and let go of the need to have relationship talk when things aren’t clear. Men are not (huge generalization ahead) always comfortable with articulating feelings. They are good at DOING stuff with their feelings. So if he is still coming around to see you, take that as a sign, try to relax into it, make sure you have plenty of things to occupy your time, and let him come to you. As your relationship progresses and the more relaxed he becomes around you, the more able you will BOTH be able to talk about the relationship without freaking out.

The fraidy-cat ones you have to be extra gentle with. Good luck 🙂

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-my-bf-immune-to-cops/3696/48 "2007-05-18T23:02:53Z")

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> [@](#):
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> While there are still miles to go, I feel good about having to learned how to “speak male,” and let go of the need to have relationship talk when things aren’t clear. Men are not (huge generalization ahead) always comfortable with articulating feelings. They are good at DOING stuff with their feelings.

preach it sister.  
we’re right there with ya.

😉

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 7:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-my-bf-immune-to-cops/3696/49 "2007-05-19T07:04:26Z")

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> [@](#):
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> It does seem strange that it would work better on the second day, is this because a reaction takes place with the body’s own chemical mantle, or is it simply better at a lower dose? Perhaps at high concentrations some, although they recognise the “fertile” signal, might be overwhelmed when faced with it at levels that would normally signify perhaps 100 fertile women standing right under their noses? Perhaps that signal is so loud it gets tuned out? If so, should I try using a lot less? 😕

I think its a chemical thing happening. I have also found something with most the other mones I have worn. When I first use something new it takes a few days for it to really kick in. I think its my own chemistry sort of struggling to acclimate to whatever I have sprayed. Then all of a sudden I start to see results. I always get a head rush kinda feeling when useing a new mone and I have noticed that when this stops they start to work better. When I dont wear the product often and come back to using it its like my body naturaly remembers and I acclimate right away. Of course this is just my therory

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> Well, if you truly love him, I think I would lay off of the sexual pheromones for a while.

I think Dolly is right and you need to give him some more time to feel comfortable before pushing the sex mones. Stick with the honesty and openness mixes as well as some of the sunshine series like MX140 or MX138. Also try some fun mixes like MX135. These will evoke more happy open upbeat feelings in him and go a long way in making him more comfortable and secure in the relationship.

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> OMG!!! This explains so much…when I was pregnant with my son, I went through much the same thing (but never asked the doc about it)…uncontrollable horniness…😮 …I wanted it ALL the time…after a while, like you, it subsided. WOW…thanks for posting that…you learn something new every day…

Same here I was mega horny when I was pregnant. I also noticed that as a began to get closer to 40 it happened as well. I am now 41 and its not subsiding LOL. I probably think about sex more then most men.

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**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 2:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-my-bf-immune-to-cops/3696/50 "2007-05-19T14:23:03Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> Same here I was mega horny when I was pregnant. I also noticed that as a began to get closer to 40 it happened as well. I am now 41 and its not subsiding LOL. I probably think about sex more then most men.

Oh, me too…I am knocking on 40 right now…and I have the sex drive from hell…😃

But, when I was pregnant with my son, it was a **different** kind of horny…almost like an URGENCY. From what Lor’s doctor said, it must have been the male hormones that my son was producing in utero…

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 3:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-my-bf-immune-to-cops/3696/51 "2007-05-19T15:01:33Z")

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> [@dolly](#):
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> Oh, me too…I am knocking on 40 right now…and I have the sex drive from hell…😃
> 
> But, when I was pregnant with my son, it was a **different** kind of horny…almost like an URGENCY. From what Lor’s doctor said, it must have been the male hormones that my son was producing in utero…

for me to see a doctor for anything WAS A BIG DEAL, i had a midwife and did drugfree childbirth with back labor!!! (this is why im psycho NOW…)

anyhoo, when i saw the doctor i was literally crying over this, it was literally painful.  
so,the answer to “can horniness be painful in its intensity?” the answer is yes !!! lol  
expecting my partner to keep up was not going to happen.  
sex 10 times a day?  
everyday for 2 months?

im proud to say he was a healthy 8.5 lb baby!  
😃

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**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-my-bf-immune-to-cops/3696/52 "2007-05-19T15:29:14Z")

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> [@lor](#):
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> anyhoo, when i saw the doctor i was literally crying over this, it was literally painful.  
> so,the answer to “can horniness be painful in its intensity?” the answer is yes !!! lol  
> expecting my partner to keep up was not going to happen.  
> sex 10 times a day?  
> everyday for 2 months?
> 
> im proud to say he was a healthy 8.5 lb baby!  
> 😃

I am right there with you…I had the exact same problem…there was no way I could have expected ANYBODY to keep up…I just suffered through it.

> [@Lor](#):
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> for me to see a doctor for anything WAS A BIG DEAL, i had a midwife and did drugfree childbirth with back labor!!! (this is why im psycho NOW…)

There is NO WAY I could’ve had a drug-free birth!! 😮 😮 😮 I was in labor for over 15 hrs, so intense that they had to administer the epidural twice! He was over 8 pounds also…and, I was very small internally. They should’ve done a section, but the dr on call was not my regular one…this guy decided instead, to yank my son out with the forceps.😠

My tailbone was broken during labor, and I had vaginal sidewall tears so bad that my regular doctor said there is no way I would ever be able to have another vaginal birth because of the scar tissue.

My son is very healthy also…😃 …8 yrs old and already 4’9"…he wears a size 8 men’s shoe…BIG BOY!!

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**Author:** ![alseides](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alseides/32/1039_2.png) [@alseides](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alseides)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 6:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-my-bf-immune-to-cops/3696/53 "2007-05-19T18:08:22Z")

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Wow, all this talk of 8-pound babies makes me feel so tiny, ha ha. I was only 6.

I plan on adopting, so I can’t really share stories of how my labor was! 😃

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**Author:** ![smoothplayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@smoothplayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smoothplayer)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 6:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-my-bf-immune-to-cops/3696/54 "2007-05-19T18:36:44Z")

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You know if this wasn’t a [pheromone](https://a314.com/) forum and you just read the subject, you get the wrong idea, lol. Yeah your boyfriend can’t get arrested or shot, he’s immune to cops… now that would be awesome!

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**Author:** ![LaurieNY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@LaurieNY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaurieNY)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 7:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-my-bf-immune-to-cops/3696/55 "2007-05-19T19:10:55Z")

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😛 Ha, funny, smoothplayer. 😛

Alseides, I was 6 lbs, 9 oz. My brother was bigger, but I forget what he weighed. Around 7.5 lbs, maybe? And I admire your decision to adopt; that’s awesome!

Lor, you must have been in tremendous pain in BACK labor without drugs…my God, you’re a champ. No kids for me. _shudder_

Anyway, this horniness during pregnancy thing is _very_ normal. From what I gather, it’s similar to the fact that we tend to be so sexually stimulated on our periods–the estrogen dropoff. We get hot flashes on our periods for the same reason. But in the case you’re talking about, the testosterone in our bodies all of a sudden hasn’t very much estrogen, if any, to combat it. So, when testosterone \> estrogen, ladies are on fire as much if not more than men are!

And dolly made an excellent point about the fact that you had a male baby…the bloodstream doesn’t mix with the baby’s but it’s possible that you had extra test because of it, making the test v. estrogen ratio even more out of whack.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 7:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-my-bf-immune-to-cops/3696/56 "2007-05-19T19:54:06Z")

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> [@LaurieNY](#):
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> 😛 Ha, funny, smoothplayer. 😛
> 
> Alseides, I was 6 lbs, 9 oz. My brother was bigger, but I forget what he weighed. Around 7.5 lbs, maybe? And I admire your decision to adopt; that’s awesome!
> 
> Lor, you must have been in tremendous pain in BACK labor without drugs…my God, you’re a champ. No kids for me. _shudder_
> 
> Anyway, this horniness during pregnancy thing is _very_ normal. From what I gather, it’s similar to the fact that we tend to be so sexually stimulated on our periods–the estrogen dropoff. We get hot flashes on our periods for the same reason. But in the case you’re talking about, the testosterone in our bodies all of a sudden hasn’t very much estrogen, if any, to combat it. So, when testosterone \> estrogen, ladies are on fire as much if not more than men are!
> 
> And dolly made an excellent point about the fact that you had a male baby…the bloodstream doesn’t mix with the baby’s but it’s possible that you had extra test because of it, making the test v. estrogen ratio even more out of whack.

it was the doctor that told me in early stages the babies gender made a difference in what i was feeling…weird.

this was not to be confused with regular horniness, this was something you dont experience without drugs or a another body in you 😃  
it was like orgasming 3 times in a row,and NOT feeling satisfied!!!  
i am not joking.

anyhoo, pregnancy is overrated.  
i wouldnt trade my experience for anything-  
i needed to experience pregnancy because i knew i would do this since i could remember…  
but to anyone _on the fence_ about it?  
_RUN LIKE HELL_.  
ADOPT.

Dolly, the health of your boy makes the hell worthwhile,does it not?  
hell,btw,has a real concrete meaning when your guts are being ripped out 😉

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**Author:** ![LaurieNY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@LaurieNY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaurieNY)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 8:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-my-bf-immune-to-cops/3696/57 "2007-05-19T20:09:48Z")

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I did not know the sex of the baby made a difference; how fascinating.

If either of you ladies have another, I’ll cross my fingers for a girl. 😉

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**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-my-bf-immune-to-cops/3696/58 "2007-05-19T22:00:54Z")

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> [@LaurieNY](#):
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> I did not know the sex of the baby made a difference; how fascinating.
> 
> If either of you ladies have another, I’ll cross my fingers for a girl. 😉

I’ve been fixed…and so has my man…no chance of THAT ever happening!! 😉 But, between he and I we have 4…2 boys, 2 girls…

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**Author:** ![dolly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dolly/32/1591_2.png) [@dolly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dolly)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 10:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-my-bf-immune-to-cops/3696/59 "2007-05-19T22:04:41Z")

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> [@Lor](#):
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> Dolly, the health of your boy makes the hell worthwhile,does it not?  
> hell,btw,has a real concrete meaning when your guts are being ripped out 😉

Yes, he makes it worthwhile every day of his life…when I see him smile, or when he comes up and gives me a big hug just because he wants to tell me that he loves me…I would go through the pain all over again, if necessary…

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**Author:** ![May](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/may/32/1909_2.png) [@May](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/May)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 3:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-my-bf-immune-to-cops/3696/60 "2007-05-20T03:19:13Z")

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Hi all

I tried something tonight. I wondered if the second-day hits with eow might have something to do with oxygenation - being exposed to air.

So before I put EoW on I left it exposed to the air for several hours, and then bygod I plastered it on - I mean overloaded it - and went to a party.

It had a definite effect. It wasn’t a big party and there were only five guys there but everyone - men and women - was right in my personal space all night, and I mean within at most four inches of my face.

I caught a guy who is much taller than me standing over me and inhaling and huffing the cops. I stepped back one step and he stepped closer one step to carry on huffing.

Also for the first time in over a year… I got asked out by one of the other guys. 🙂 I’ve known him for a year and he has never shown any interest before and he is not my type - but it was really nice to be asked. 😃

I’m not sure - on one experiment if this is due to the way I let the EoW soften - people seemed less threatened and less prone to blank it than they were on my previous first-day application.

It could also, just possibly, be due to the fact that people were more relaxed as it was a party and they had had a few drinks.

Thoughts anyone?😕

May

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