# is pheromones like a type of sorcery? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 16, 2008, 7:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-pheromones-like-a-type-of-sorcery/21489 "2008-10-16T07:00:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Seraphim54](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/seraphim54/32/514_2.png) [@Seraphim54](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Seraphim54)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 8:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-pheromones-like-a-type-of-sorcery/21489/21 "2008-10-19T08:09:11Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Alot of people dont get self effects with pheromones or let me re phrase that, “they think they dont” (I will explain that below). Its because pheromones work on the subconscious mind and your conscious of them. Some of the reported self effects very well may be imagined which is why reactions from others who do not know your using pheromones is a more reliable gage as to what they do. > > When you first start using pheromones you have a preconceived notion like with Instant Shine for example. You know it makes people upbeat and happy so you put it on and feel upbeat and happy. I still get self effects from many pheromones but those feelings have changed to reveal a more true meaning as to what they do. Where I once was upbeat and happy using Instant Shine (The preconceived notion) now that I understand it I see the true effect. When I use it I am a warmer, happier, more kind person. (The true self effect) > > Instant Honesty for example, People hear the name and think it will make people honest and tell secrets. What its really is doing is making people feel connected and close to you and when they do they tend to talk about deeper feelings then normal. The self effects (the preconceived notion) the wearer talks more and reveals secrets. (The true self effect) You feel more deeply connected to your self. More centered and grounded. More willing to share feelings. > > Self effects are a tricky thing and while they are great I tend to tell people to not use that as the only gage to tell them what pheromones are really doing. Its the behavoir changes in others that tell you the true story. For self effects you ned to look deeper. Those can be harder to see then the effect on others. > > With experimentals like the putatives its a bit different. Most of them you dont have any preconceived notion about so your feelings can be a indicator as to what they do. > > Tisha So are you saying that the "“revelation” had nothing to do with IH? I’m confuzzed (not hard to do lol). ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 8:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-pheromones-like-a-type-of-sorcery/21489/22 "2008-10-19T08:15:02Z")
> [@](#): > > So are you saying that the "“revelation” had nothing to do with Instant Honesty? I’m confuzzed (not hard to do lol). No lol, what she told you was a result of her feeling closer and more connected to you thus more willing to share on subjects she wouldnt ordinarily share with you. My point above is more about your statement of not getting self effects or not understanding what we are talking about when we mention them. That is what you were referring to by “I dont understand what your talking about in posts” correct ? Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Seraphim54](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/seraphim54/32/514_2.png) [@Seraphim54](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Seraphim54)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 8:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-pheromones-like-a-type-of-sorcery/21489/23 "2008-10-19T08:23:30Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > No lol, what she told you was a result of her feeling closer and more connected to you thus more willing to share on subjects she wouldnt ordinarily share with you. > > My point above is more about your statement of not getting self effects or not understanding what we are talking about when we mention them. > > That is what you were referring to by “I dont understand what your talking about in posts” correct ? > > Tisha Yep…that and the more technical stuff like “1 molecule of…” etc lol ---
**Author:** ![castlerock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/castlerock/32/1503_2.png) [@castlerock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/castlerock)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 4:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-pheromones-like-a-type-of-sorcery/21489/24 "2008-10-19T16:05:53Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > True, and there are people who dont believe in Pheromones but they are real and they work. Sometimes its just a matter of understanding how and why that gives you the power. 😉 > > Tisha I’m not sure I’m sure how pheromones work. I better come over and you show me. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 5:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-pheromones-like-a-type-of-sorcery/21489/25 "2008-10-19T17:12:50Z")
> [@](#): > > not sure I’m sure how pheromones work. I better come over and you show me. 😃 LOL I can show you how magick and Pheromones work. You may not survive it but you’ll have fun learning 😉 Tish ---
**Author:** ![castlerock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/castlerock/32/1503_2.png) [@castlerock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/castlerock)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 7:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-pheromones-like-a-type-of-sorcery/21489/26 "2008-10-19T19:54:34Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > LOL I can show you how magick and Pheromones work. You may not survive it but you’ll have fun learning 😉 > > Tish O baby, I like it rough 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tfer15](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfer15/32/711_2.png) [@tfer15](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfer15)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2008, 3:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-pheromones-like-a-type-of-sorcery/21489/27 "2008-10-20T03:52:31Z")
o god here we go ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2008, 4:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-pheromones-like-a-type-of-sorcery/21489/28 "2008-10-20T04:02:56Z")
> [@castlerock](#): > > O baby, I like it rough Well being a salamander can be kinda rough. Now a hamster, though, isn’t too bad as long as the cat is outside … lol.😛 ---
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2008, 2:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-pheromones-like-a-type-of-sorcery/21489/29 "2008-10-20T14:47:04Z")
> [@tfer15](#): > > o god here we go I was thinking the same thing, Trisha has been known to turn guys into Newts, but some of them get better. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-pheromones-like-a-type-of-sorcery/21489.md?page=1)