# Is simplifying a mix better? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 2, 2010, 10:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-simplifying-a-mix-better/43701 "2010-12-02T22:47:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Noble](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noble/32/1768_2.png) [@Noble](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noble)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 10:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-simplifying-a-mix-better/43701/1 "2010-12-02T22:47:50Z")
I have a theory that the less products that you use at once, the better and stronger your effects and experience. I’ve got mine down to a pretty low number, but I feel like if I simplified it even more, it would be more effective. Here’s my mix I’ve been using this week: 3X IG 2X IS 2X IH 1X P83 10mcg Now, it seems alright with my target groups (high schoolers). I haven’t had any problems. But I’m curious if REMOVING things would make the performance better. Obviously I’m pushing for female attraction. I really like all four ingredients in my mix, but I feel that I need to try and bring it down to two, to make the more important [pheromones](https://a314.com/) have more _pull_. Any ideas, guys? ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 11:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-simplifying-a-mix-better/43701/2 "2010-12-02T23:13:41Z")
> [@Noble](#): > > I have a theory that the less products that you use at once, the better and stronger your effects and experience. > > I’ve got mine down to a pretty low number, but I feel like if I simplified it even more, it would be more effective. Here’s my mix I’ve been using this week: > > 3X IG > 2X IS > 2X IH > 1X P83 10mcg > > Now, it seems alright with my target groups (high schoolers). I haven’t had any problems. But I’m curious if REMOVING things would make the performance better. > > Obviously I’m pushing for female attraction. > > I really like all four ingredients in my mix, but I feel that I need to try and bring it down to two, to make the more important pheromones have more _pull_. Any ideas, guys? Yes we do tend to say the whole less is more. We really dont just say it to newer users b/c I’ve more recently gone back to my roots using simple mixes with less components and I couldn’t be happier with it. Well lets break it down. Have you ever tried IG at lower doses? I believe you can get away with 2 rather than 3 but I have to understand this from your perspective. IG is 12.5 mcgs of androsterone with a 2.5 mcg shot of mystery molecule. I think 2 IS is a good place to stay to a get a minimum good uplifting vibe. I think 2 shots is just right so I’d leave that alone. IH is the kicker I suppose. I still think you could just stay with the same dosage as well for this cause many of us use a 3-4 spray standard with IH and IS so 2 is a good middle ground. If P83 is working for you at 10 mcgs I applaud you boy. While 30 is nice for me at times I prefer a lighter dosage at around 12-18 so that doesnt seem to need any change either. My suggestion for a mix while integrating yours: Drop the IG to 2 sprays Add half a spray of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) or 1 spray of ammo from a to-go bottle Keep the IS the same Drop the IH down to 1 spray Keep the P83 the same I think this will round you out attraction wise if you happen to have ammo. Remember wield the mones. Dont let them wield you 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![GorMas2020](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gormas2020/32/197_2.png) [@GorMas2020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorMas2020)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 11:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-simplifying-a-mix-better/43701/3 "2010-12-02T23:22:24Z")
> [@Noble](#): > > I have a theory that the less products that you use at once, the better and stronger your effects and experience. > > I’ve got mine down to a pretty low number, but I feel like if I simplified it even more, it would be more effective. Here’s my mix I’ve been using this week: > > 3X IG > 2X IS > 2X IH > 1X P83 10mcg > > Now, it seems alright with my target groups (high schoolers). I haven’t had any problems. But I’m curious if REMOVING things would make the performance better. > > Obviously I’m pushing for female attraction. > > I really like all four ingredients in my mix, but I feel that I need to try and bring it down to two, to make the more important pheromones have more _pull_. Any ideas, guys? The simplest mix I use is 1 drop A314 1 spray Ammo2x 1 spray Shine4x You could really sub your 3 sprays IG with my A314. I’m not a big fan of using IH until in an individual type date setting or with lots of close friends/family. So that would be on MY next to remove from this mix list. I am personally trying to limit my products from the Instant line to 3 as sort of a base(then add a fourth depending on setting or desired effect) and purchasing stronger versions to limit my number of sprays thus making them last longer and hopefully have more of a desired effect instead of an overall effect if that makes sense. I’m not familiar with p83 but for just two products I would go with IG and IS, but that’s just my opinion ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 5:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-simplifying-a-mix-better/43701/4 "2010-12-03T05:12:17Z")
The thing to bear in mind is that the consumer line products are already mixes of various molecules. Some simple like Ammo, some vary complex like A314. The effects CAN be enhanced by mixing but when you mix too many products you run a couple of risks. The more products you use, the harder it is for any one product to be noticed and to stand out. That’s why first for testing a new product…you should take the time to sweet spot test that product as a standalone. Then start adding to a basic mix. Consider the A314/Ammo/Shine combo is one a BUNCH of members swear by, it’s simple as hell and while people may vary the dose, it’s all pretty much the same and it’s consistent. I’ve found it to work fairly well across the board. Enough None sexuality for latin and black women, Yet A higher Rone to None ratio so as not to be too off putting to Asians or younger Caucasian females. Not too specialized but it works. Personally I like to limit myself to 3-4 products at a time, max. And the more products I use the more A314 I use to make sure my high status vibe is the dominant part of my signal ---
**Author:** ![Deja\_Vu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deja_vu/32/256_2.png) [@Deja\_Vu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Deja_Vu)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 9:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-simplifying-a-mix-better/43701/5 "2010-12-03T09:09:28Z")
> [@Noble](#): > > I have a theory that the less products that you use at once, the better and stronger your effects and experience. I have to disagree with you. Mones is just like a cooking recipe. Sure, you can just grill a steak with just a dash of sea salt. But most of the times, to create the best, tender juicy steak you’ll need alot of spices and ingredients and methods just to have that award-winning steak. The problem is just that we don’t know what conflicts with what. We know you don’t add mayonnaise into a steak, but that is because we know exactly how it will taste. But mones, it is such an experimental science that you never know what kind of results we will get by mixing so many stuff. Once we are able to grasp that however, I believe that the more products you have, the stronger the effects. Regarding your mix, since you’re looking for attraction type of mix, I would drop the IH for special occasions where the setting will be more interactive. I would drop the p83 as well, it’s such a waste to wear them everyday. I would say IG+IS+IO and try getting p74. I personally have not tested it thoroughly but it has been reported that this putative gives you a crush-type of vibe - something you might want to look into. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 10:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-simplifying-a-mix-better/43701/6 "2010-12-03T10:21:16Z")
> [@](#): > > I have a theory that the less products that you use at once, the better and stronger your effects and experience. Now your getting it 😃 It depends on whether your using a mix or a single molecule product though. With mixes I never layer more then 3 Single molecules are different but when you using a lot of different ones you should take it slow and work around 1 or 2 main putatives. The rest of the putatives are in low low dose for steering. You want a soft natural signal that people will attract to. Wearing to much is like yelling you signal and can end up being offensive. > [@](#): > > But most of the times, to create the best, tender juicy steak you’ll need alot of spices and ingredients and methods just to have that award-winning steak. Not really some of the best most popular mixes here are the simple ones with 2 to 3 putatives. You can over spice a wonderful steak as well to the point that it tastes like shit. Most people in here are severely over spicing there steaks IMO. Balance is another key. I see people going way over in one type of product and not balancing it out. Balance can be the difference between sending out a sexy attractive arousing signal and a disturbing perverted frightening signal. > [@](#): > > 3X IG > 2X IS > 2X IH > 1X P83 10mcg This is not a bad mix but it depends on what your trying to say. Your main signal is IG and thats what your working around. Ask yourself what is it I want to say along with the IG vibe. Then use the putatives and other mixes to steer it there. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Deja\_Vu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deja_vu/32/256_2.png) [@Deja\_Vu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Deja_Vu)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2010, 1:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-simplifying-a-mix-better/43701/7 "2010-12-03T13:07:46Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Balance is another key. I see people going way over in one type of product and not balancing it out. Balance can be the difference between sending out a sexy attractive arousing signal and a disturbing perverted frightening signal. Thanks Tisha, I’m inept at organizing my thoughts but that’s what I’m trying to say. You don’t mix everything that taste nice into a recipe and hope that it turns out extra yummy. Same thing with mones, finding the right balance is the key. Take for example A314, on its own it works awesome, but adding a little IS to this will make it even MORE POTENT than just A314 alone. I hope someone gets my point lol.