# Is there a pheromone here comparable to SOE? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 10, 2008, 1:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-there-a-pheromone-here-comparable-to-soe/10952 "2008-04-10T13:24:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jayzee327](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc79bd/32.png) [@jayzee327](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jayzee327)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 1:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-there-a-pheromone-here-comparable-to-soe/10952/1 "2008-04-10T13:24:28Z")
is there a [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) here that is comparable to SOE. thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Rattlesnake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Rattlesnake](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rattlesnake)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 2:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-there-a-pheromone-here-comparable-to-soe/10952/2 "2008-04-10T14:12:51Z")
Scent of Eros, mainly comprises of Alpha-nol and -Rone. In that regard I dont think that there is. Nol heavy products include: Instant openess/honesty and CTTM2 Rone heavy products: A314 [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) (I think, someone will have to confirm this for me). Hope this helps Rattle ---
**Author:** ![galydrum](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/galydrum/32/5181_2.png) [@galydrum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/galydrum)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 2:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-there-a-pheromone-here-comparable-to-soe/10952/3 "2008-04-10T14:20:49Z")
> [@Rattlesnake](#): > > Scent of Eros, mainly comprises of Alpha Androstenol CTTM is 50/50 both alpha and beta -Androstenol. If Scent of Eros is heavier on the alpha, Instant Openness might be closer when combined with A314. Also, isn’t [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) a -Androsterone based mix? EDIT: Haha, Rattlesnake edited his post, and now mine’s redundant. Oh well. ---
**Author:** ![Rattlesnake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Rattlesnake](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rattlesnake)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 5:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-there-a-pheromone-here-comparable-to-soe/10952/4 "2008-04-10T17:26:43Z")
> [@galydrum](#): > > CTTM is 50/50 both alpha and beta -Androstenol. If Scent of Eros is heavier on the alpha, Instant Openness might be closer when combined with A314. Also, isn’t Instant Gentleman a -Androsterone based mix? > > EDIT: Haha, Rattlesnake edited his post, and now mine’s redundant. Oh well. 😕 I didnt edit anything 😕 ---
**Author:** ![galydrum](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/galydrum/32/5181_2.png) [@galydrum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/galydrum)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-there-a-pheromone-here-comparable-to-soe/10952/5 "2008-04-10T17:29:54Z")
> [@Rattlesnake](#): > > 😕 I didnt edit anything 😕 No? Oh, okay. Must be just me not paying attention then. Haha. 😃 Anyway, there it is. At least we agree. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 5:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-there-a-pheromone-here-comparable-to-soe/10952/6 "2008-04-10T17:34:52Z")
> [@galydrum](#): > > CTTM is 50/50 both alpha and beta -Androstenol. If Scent of Eros is heavier on the alpha, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) might be closer when combined with A314. Also, isn’t Instant Gentleman a -Androsterone based mix? I could be wrong but I think CTTM 2 is actually closer to a 70/30 mix of AlphaNol and BetaNol. As for [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), I believe that it is Androsterone based, as is A314. I believe that A314 is a combination of around 16 compounds now and has a fair amount od Androstenone in it. I think that Instant Gentleman has either very little or no Androstenone and contains far less steering pheros. Notice I have given no absolutes here, as only Jasmin, MHarris, April and probably SteveO and a few others no the exact ingrediants for certain, so no this is not the gospel. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 9:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-there-a-pheromone-here-comparable-to-soe/10952/7 "2008-04-10T21:17:36Z")
Its a 50/50 mix of Alpha Androstenol and Bnols Here is what Micheal has to say on [Come Talk To Me](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/) Mix 2 By the way number 2 is the only one sold at this time. > [@](#): > > **BY MHarris** CTTM Mix 2 is a mix of alpha and beta Androstenol. 20mcg total per spray. It has a much larger dose of special orange fragrance package than the Instant Line does at this time. > > It’s a nice communication product, and I’ve even seen 1 spray create some obvious fascination with younger women. I can see it as a hit with those who want to affect Asians, since they typically respond better to -nols, and worse to -none. > > It doesn’t necessarily, however, make people “come talk to you”. You usually have to initiate in some way, and off they go. > [@](#): > > Also, CTTM Mix 2 on it’s own has a simplicity that’s good for attraction, perhaps better than [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) + [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) (unless you go heavier on the [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)). > > I’ve noticed that the best mixes for attraction tend to be very simple or, conversely, over the top, almost symphonic in nature. > [@](#): > > CTTM Mix 2 is much older and rougher than what you get when you combine [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). I worked harder to reduce the negatives of beta-Androstenol in [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), especially. > > Unmodified beta-Androstenol can definitely be a “head trip”, with unwanted emotive self-effects. I had some issues with it myself. > > So if you like the effect of CTTM on others, but want fewer negatives, I’d try [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) + [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). > > Also, with [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) + [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), you can contour the social effect better that way, with independent control over each social aspect (you can think of [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) more as an “Instant Intimacy” factor, but with a non-embarssing embarassing label). Scent of eros has arone and anols in it. I know there is no anone in it but I am not sure if there is more then those two. I would go with rattlesnakes advice and try IG and IO Tisha Tisha