# Is there any difference for A314 from here and from LS? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 25, 2007, 3:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-there-any-difference-for-a314-from-here-and-from-ls/6896 "2007-11-25T03:15:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2007, 3:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-there-any-difference-for-a314-from-here-and-from-ls/6896/1 "2007-11-25T03:15:19Z")
Hi everyone, I currently owns a bottle of A314 bought from LS a month ago. I am wondering if there is any difference between this one and the one from androticsdirect. 😕 I believe that the bottle I own is the older version of what is currently sold here. But if there is anyone who have tried both, it would be great to post your comments or compare them! Thx a lot! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2007, 12:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-there-any-difference-for-a314-from-here-and-from-ls/6896/2 "2007-11-25T12:04:50Z")
I believe the older version which is sold by LS has less mones in it. Still a very good product though and should work fine for you. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2007, 6:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-there-any-difference-for-a314-from-here-and-from-ls/6896/3 "2007-11-25T18:48:01Z")
As I recall the LS version uses a custom oil carrier (not organic) and only comes in the 15 ml size for $69.95 but is otherwise the same. The Androtics version is also $69.95 but for 10 ml but has an organic oil carrier. If you want the most bang for the buck, and ain’t into “Green Peace” or whale saving, the LS version is more bang for buck. It seems Androtics tweaks the mix with every batch. However newer is not always better. Many have said they preferred some of the earlier versions. The main component is androsterone (80%), and is largely responsible for the peaceful alpha vibe or fatherly respect it tends to foster. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2007, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-there-any-difference-for-a314-from-here-and-from-ls/6896/4 "2007-11-26T06:28:15Z")
There have been slight variations in the formulation between whats offered here and at LS. I can’t stand the EO’s used in the LS version, but it works very well. In fact, it was that very formulation that got me hooked on A314 and Androtics. The fundamental effect is essentially the same across all the different versions. There are some differences here and there, but I wouldn’t consider any of these differences a real deal maker (or breaker). ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2007, 8:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-there-any-difference-for-a314-from-here-and-from-ls/6896/5 "2007-11-26T08:48:31Z")
The only thing I don’t like about the latest version of A314 from Androtics itself, is the Beta-Androstenol in there. I have definitely noticed typical ‘internal censor off’ type hits without wearing IH or CTTM so I am sure one of the 16-odd components of the latest version of A314 I have (bought in February or March this year) has this phero. I’d prefer to add the Beta-Androstenol myself if I want that particular effect. Sometimes its good to get respect minus ‘internal censor off’ hits. Otherwise it is a great product - whichever version you have, A314 is a masterpiece. How they have made something so seemingly different to its major component (Androsterone) is brilliant. And I love having the oil base as well instead of those spray versions - the Androstenone in the product is really well controlled this way (slowly diffusing with no chance of None OD type reactions)… It feels like its part of my own signature now - just put some on in the morning and it goes all day long - no need to fuss and muss with additional doses… -Visionary ---
**Author:** ![millwark](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/millwark/32/560_2.png) [@millwark](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/millwark)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2007, 9:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-there-any-difference-for-a314-from-here-and-from-ls/6896/6 "2007-11-26T09:08:48Z")
> [@Socrates](#): > > The only thing I don’t like about the latest version of A314 from Androtics itself, is the Beta-Androstenol in there. I have definitely noticed typical ‘internal censor off’ type hits without wearing Instant Honesty or CTTM so I am sure one of the 16-odd components of the latest version of A314 I have (bought in February or March this year) has this phero. > I’d prefer to add the Beta-Androstenol myself if I want that particular effect. Sometimes its good to get respect minus ‘internal censor off’ hits. > > Otherwise it is a great product - whichever version you have, A314 is a masterpiece. How they have made something so seemingly different to its major component (Androsterone) is brilliant. And I love having the oil base as well instead of those spray versions - the Androstenone in the product is really well controlled this way (slowly diffusing with no chance of None OD type reactions)… It feels like its part of my own signature now - just put some on in the morning and it goes all day long - no need to fuss and muss with additional doses… > > -Visionary Hellooooo. So what does “internal censor off” mean? The only thing that comes to mind is maybe while wearing the A314 with the “internal censor off” ingredient added, the wearer is also kind of protected from the whole effect of A314, and conversely, without this extra ingredient, it’s “full tilt boogy” for the wearer and the intended targets? I love run on sentences. Somebody stop me! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2007, 9:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-there-any-difference-for-a314-from-here-and-from-ls/6896/7 "2007-11-26T09:17:05Z")
I think means the beta 'Androstenol encourages people to spill their guts a wee bit too much. I have A314 of similar vintage but haven’t noticed that effect. If 'Androsterone is 80% of the total and the other 20% a dozen or more [pheromones](https://a314.com/), the beta 'Androstenol contents must be pretty dad burn tiny. ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2007, 5:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-there-any-difference-for-a314-from-here-and-from-ls/6896/8 "2007-11-27T05:09:05Z")
Thx for all those great answers! I will probably try Androtics version once my supply is low. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2007, 11:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-there-any-difference-for-a314-from-here-and-from-ls/6896/9 "2007-12-01T11:51:00Z")
I’ve got the mutant a314 from here and the LS a314 version. I’m happy with both…