# Is this mix brave or stupid? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 4, 2012, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-this-mix-brave-or-stupid/56307 "2012-08-04T16:52:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DevilJin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/258eb7/32.png) [@DevilJin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DevilJin)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-this-mix-brave-or-stupid/56307/1 "2012-08-04T16:52:51Z")
I recently met a pretty hot 20 year old girl, we hit it off as soon as we met (a week ago), I’m taking her on a date. I’ve decided to go with this mix: 2xsummer ammo, 1x TUTH (under vest),4x IH, 15mcg of P74, 50 mcg of P83 and 3x IS. Now between the two sprays of summer ammo and TUTH is there simply too much none in that mix for a 20 year old? (bare in mind she seems to be pretty comfortable with her sexuality but im not looking for sex on the night of the date, I just want her to be pretty aroused, whilst attracted to me, which should lead to sex soon after LOL) Or would the IH, P74 and IS buffer it enough? Any modifications to that combo are much welcome. Bare in mind, I also own regular ammo,[P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) and A314. ---
**Author:** ![bankie6784](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@bankie6784](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bankie6784)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-this-mix-brave-or-stupid/56307/2 "2012-08-04T17:31:05Z")
ASE and [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) on your neck and IS on your wrists and you should be golden avoid the TUTH ---
**Author:** ![cjw255](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/45deac/32.png) [@cjw255](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cjw255)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2012, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-this-mix-brave-or-stupid/56307/3 "2012-08-04T21:48:56Z")
yea save the tuth for right before you two hook up ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 3:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-this-mix-brave-or-stupid/56307/4 "2012-08-05T03:45:07Z")
well .. like the others said .. let out the TUTH … As summer [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) already contains TAA … skip the IS as well … P74 and the IH will buffer enough .. P83 will bring out the yuckie .. go for it ! **Pago** ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 4:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-this-mix-brave-or-stupid/56307/5 "2012-08-05T04:38:43Z")
My suggestion to you is to leave off the P74. Combined with the IH and the P130 in the Ammo it will push you to far into the friend zone. You can use the TUTH, There are enough buffers with just the IH Ishine and what is in the Summer ammo to cover that. This will create a nice pull so the TUTH can go in under the radar and arouse. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![DevilJin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/258eb7/32.png) [@DevilJin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DevilJin)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 8:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-this-mix-brave-or-stupid/56307/6 "2012-08-05T08:09:29Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > My suggest to you is to leave off the P74. Combined with the IH and the P130 in the Ammo it will push you to far into the friend zone. > > You can use the TUTH, There are enough buffers with just the IH Ishine and what is in the Summer ammo to cover that. This will create a nice pull so the TUTH can go in under the radar and arouse. > > Tisha Isn’t [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) meant to be ‘instant boyfriend’? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 9:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-this-mix-brave-or-stupid/56307/7 "2012-08-05T09:35:10Z")
> [@DevilJin](#): > > Isn’t P74 meant to be ‘instant boyfriend’? It can be but the P130 in [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) has significant comfort/closeness/dreamboat properties all its own. Which seem to complement none particularly well I reckon one or the other would be in order here but both together is just too comforting esp with a substantial whack of other socials in the mix. ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 9:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-this-mix-brave-or-stupid/56307/8 "2012-08-05T09:43:02Z")
> [@DevilJin](#): > > I recently met a pretty hot 20 year old girl, we hit it off as soon as we met (a week ago), I’m taking her on a date. I’ve decided to go with this mix: > > 2xsummer ammo, 1x TUTH (under vest),4x IH, 15mcg of P74, 50 mcg of P83 and 3x IS. > > Now between the two sprays of summer ammo and TUTH is there simply too much none in that mix for a 20 year old? (bare in mind she seems to be pretty comfortable with her sexuality but im not looking for sex on the night of the date, I just want her to be pretty aroused, whilst attracted to me, which should lead to sex soon after LOL) Or would the IH, P74 and IS buffer it enough? > > Any modifications to that combo are much welcome. Bare in mind, I also own regular ammo,P75 and A314. What were you wearing when you met her? ---
**Author:** ![DevilJin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/258eb7/32.png) [@DevilJin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DevilJin)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 9:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-this-mix-brave-or-stupid/56307/9 "2012-08-05T09:46:20Z")
> [@still18](#): > > What were you wearing when you met her? [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), P83 and P74. ---
**Author:** ![DevilJin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/258eb7/32.png) [@DevilJin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DevilJin)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 9:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-this-mix-brave-or-stupid/56307/10 "2012-08-05T09:49:00Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > It can be but the P130 in Summer Ammo has significant comfort/closeness/dreamboat properties all its own. Which seem to complement none particularly well > > I reckon one or the other would be in order here but both together is just too comforting esp with a substantial whack of other socials in the mix. Should I try to risk it and wear the TUTH on my neck and not under my vest, if I buffer it with 1xIS, 4xIH? Why does none irritate women during their time of the month? Is it because it makes them horney and unable to do anything about it, which in turn leads to frustration or is there a different reason? ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 9:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-this-mix-brave-or-stupid/56307/11 "2012-08-05T09:55:05Z")
> [@DevilJin](#): > > Summer Ammo, P83 and P74. Use the same, without the P74 and 2.5mcg [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) with 4 sprays of IH. Don’t use the TUTH, you mentioned you’re not looking for sex on the first date, why scare her away, you don’t know how’s going to respond… Use it when she’s in your bed… ---
**Author:** ![DevilJin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/258eb7/32.png) [@DevilJin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DevilJin)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 9:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-this-mix-brave-or-stupid/56307/12 "2012-08-05T09:57:47Z")
> [@still18](#): > > Use the same, without the P74 and 2.5mcg P75 with 4 sprays of IH. > > Don’t use the TUTH, you mentioned you’re not looking for sex on the first date, why scare her away, you don’t know how’s going to respond… Use it when she’s in your bed… I just want her to get aroused. Isn’t that what TUTH does? ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 10:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-this-mix-brave-or-stupid/56307/13 "2012-08-05T10:04:32Z")
> [@DevilJin](#): > > I just want her to get aroused. Isn’t that what TUTH does? the Ammo and the P74 and the P83 will be enough arousal … trust me ! stick to your proven mix … never change a winning team … NEVER .. **Pago** ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 12:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-this-mix-brave-or-stupid/56307/14 "2012-08-05T12:48:50Z")
> [@DevilJin](#): > > Should I try to risk it and wear the TUTH on my neck and not under my vest, if I buffer it with 1xIS, 4xIH? > > Why does none irritate women during their time of the month? Is it because it makes them horney and unable to do anything about it, which in turn leads to frustration or is there a different reason? I would get it out where it can diffuse, yes. You already have good buffering from the [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) - All the TUTH is doing here is raising your overall none proportion by about a third with some fairly discreet (relative to the rest of the mix) sexual steering. I’m actually surprised at the amounts of none Summer can moderate effectively, which is why I don’t think it needs much more moderation/steering and 4xIH is quite a lot of that. Too much none at the wrong time can trigger a whole range of negative responses not just horny without being able to do anything about it. Angry, argumentative, aggressive tetchy and sullen. Which is why I’ve found it better to start lowish and build as an interaction builds in a positive direction - or not as the case may be. However, if you got good results from her with Summer Ammo, P74 and P83 - There is a lot to be said for continuing that mix or just add the TUTH. If a mix is working, don’t change it too radically. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 1:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-this-mix-brave-or-stupid/56307/15 "2012-08-05T13:42:41Z")
> [@DevilJin](#): > > Should I try to risk it and wear the TUTH on my neck and not under my vest, if I buffer it with 1xIS, 4xIH? How about applying to the upper chest so some is near the neck and some is under the vest. This is called the sweeping method. Point the nozzle to where you want to spray then while your spraying move your hand in sort of a sweeping motion so its not concentrated in one area. Its actually one of the most effective and diffusive ways to use mones because it covers more area and diffuses more consistently and even. > [@](#): > > Why does none irritate women during their time of the month? Is it because it makes them horney and unable to do anything about it, which in turn leads to frustration or is there a different reason Hun, for some women everything makes us frustrated during that time of the month. Its not a comfortable time. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![DevilJin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/258eb7/32.png) [@DevilJin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DevilJin)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 4:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-this-mix-brave-or-stupid/56307/16 "2012-08-06T04:16:59Z")
Yesterday we had what I can only describe as a very adult conversation, so I thought hey what the heck why not risk it? I’ve decided to go for a combo of: 3xAmmo summer, 1xTUTH, 4xIH, 2xIS, 50mcg of [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/). Now is there too much none in between the 3 sprays of summer ammo and 1 spray of TUTH? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 2:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-this-mix-brave-or-stupid/56307/17 "2012-08-06T14:15:44Z")
> [@](#): > > I’ve decided to go for a combo of: 3xAmmo summer, 1xTUTH, 4xIH, 2xIS, 50mcg of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) . Now is there too much none in between the 3 sprays of summer [ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and 1 spray of [TUTH](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) ? There is 2.5 mcgs of anone in 1 spray of summer ammo and the same in 1 spray of tuth. The difference is they have different steering mones. So in total your wearing 10mcgs of anone. If your worried thats to much anone then scale back on the ammo a little but keep your socials where they are. Tisha