# Iso E Super as a pheromone harmonizing ingredient **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 6, 2006, 2:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iso-e-super-as-a-pheromone-harmonizing-ingredient/401 "2006-06-06T14:06:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2006, 2:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iso-e-super-as-a-pheromone-harmonizing-ingredient/401/1 "2006-06-06T14:06:42Z")
FWIW… Iso E Super is already in a wide range of fragrances although it has a mild… nearly invisible fragrance by itself. Iso E is sold as cologne via the retail product **Molecule 01** \*\*.\*\* This product is pure Iso E and a solvent. An aquaintance gave me a small vial of Molecule 01 to experiment with. You can see the technicals here: [http://www.iff.com/Ingredients.nsf/0/E69A1213546C4F8B80256993003995C6](http://www.iff.com/Ingredients.nsf/0/E69A1213546C4F8B80256993003995C6) I made up a sexmix with a booster of P74, P79, P80… as well as the usual suspects.. -nol, -dienone, -rone, a little -none to about 1 ml. in a 2 ml bottle with a couple of excellent fragrances, then filled to top off with Iso E… Went forth into the evening and sexxed up … most excellently… magnificent experience… hung out with some folks afterwards… The difference was the quality of the integration of the multiple mones which is to say that they manifested like a single, well balanced, emotionally “useful” … as opposed to too edgy here, too lovey-dovey there, too confusing over behind the coffee table… there was instead a unity to the experience, sort of a comfortable holism, all is well, all is cool, all is in control… What gives ? I would suspect that the Iso E molecule is like a partial [pheromone](https://a314.com/) in its structure, and this may act as a pheromone perception modulator (the Molecule 01 product may have been intended as a social harmonizer) that takes the edge off pheromone extremes in sweathoggy high intensity environments, clubs and bars where alcohol and androstenone flow all too freely, or environments where is pays off to play well with others and you don’t want to lay down an offensive vapor trail, like investment banks… because of its pheromone-oid structure it may alter the way the echt pheromone molecules cross a protein lipid barrier, it may directly modulate the neuro response, it may act as some form of nerve stabilizer… Whetever its’ mode of action, it made the experience intense where it needed to be intense and mellow-smooth-social where it needed to be that way… to be continued… 😉 😉 😉 ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2006, 2:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iso-e-super-as-a-pheromone-harmonizing-ingredient/401/2 "2006-06-06T14:54:49Z")
Which may also explain the good results with amber fragrances the **ambrgris like** warm amber scents also had this refining quality when used with [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/), such as a sample of L’Artisan’s Ambre Extreme… it did seem warmer, more humanized, more senusal instead of edgy-intense… When I look at the structure of synthetic ambergris: [http://ingredients.givaudan.com/appl/fib/ing.nsf/PRINT/379F08C09EF4B61CC1256F6200437202?OpenDocument](http://ingredients.givaudan.com/appl/fib/ing.nsf/PRINT/379F08C09EF4B61CC1256F6200437202?OpenDocument) Yep, Like Iso E Super in Molecule 01, again you see that double ring structure in a slightly different configuration So, I’m thinking, you could buy some Ambre Extreme, some Molecule 01, a little of something else, and compound a really nice “pheromone launch pad” for yourself… ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2006, 4:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iso-e-super-as-a-pheromone-harmonizing-ingredient/401/3 "2006-06-06T16:11:41Z")
And since we’re on the subject of potentiators and fragrances Sandalwood has been a favorite pro-erotic fragrance since the beginning of recorded history… hmmm… why ? here we have the latest generation of sandalwood fragrance… now this is worth paying attention to… Javanol is a powerful sandalwood note, also a super-sticky molecule… they list it as being able to cling to a surface for one month… Would it be as pro-erotic as beta-santalol, the pheromone like substance distilled from real sandalwood ? Would it be a potent fixative for pheromones with an agreeable male presence ? [http://ingredients.givaudan.com/appl/fib/ing.nsf/0c7c7a0c6b30d410c1256913002ed09f/22a0f1c9809cfeb9c1256eb0003198a9?OpenDocument](http://ingredients.givaudan.com/appl/fib/ing.nsf/0c7c7a0c6b30d410c1256913002ed09f/22a0f1c9809cfeb9c1256eb0003198a9?OpenDocument) ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2006, 8:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iso-e-super-as-a-pheromone-harmonizing-ingredient/401/4 "2006-06-06T20:57:48Z")
i don’t know anything about technical stuff, but i do know that women just love to be close to me after i have put a couple drops of A314 in my palm followed by 3 drops of sandalwood EO and put it on my arms and neck/chest. ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2006, 10:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iso-e-super-as-a-pheromone-harmonizing-ingredient/401/5 "2006-06-06T22:09:27Z")
Many of the classic male scents have pheromone like structures looking at the agarwood (lao oud) fragrance, you see it again… obviously the great old line fragrances have a connection with pheromones… I almost never use pheromones “raw” any more… gotta try **Pheros** \*\* … \*\*bet that harmonizes like a charm… even better Pheros + Iso E … have had great results with wild lavender too… the female nose has a wicked quality sense… men may not appreciate that difference when they slap on the crap … ---
**Author:** ![itwow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/itwow/32/1493_2.png) [@itwow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/itwow)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 5:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iso-e-super-as-a-pheromone-harmonizing-ingredient/401/6 "2006-06-08T17:09:23Z")
**@tacitus** How is Iso E Super compared to pregnenolone when added into a pheromone mix? I read about it in your “potency boost” post previously. Is pregnenolone a worthy addition? Thanks. i2w ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2006, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iso-e-super-as-a-pheromone-harmonizing-ingredient/401/7 "2006-06-08T19:32:23Z")
Preg, one can assume, adds to the flavor pregnenolone is an upstream pro-hormone, my guess would be that the dectable presence of preg signals a powerful biological organism that can throw off that much as excess production… other, similar organisms would read that as “metabolic cash to burn” … or hot action, depending on your point of view. Iso E Super looks like a pheromone fragment.. it has been descibed as having a je ne sais quoi, a pheromonic feel to it without firing on all cylinders. In my Mixmaster party blend I posted today, there is Iso E Super, in spite of the strong pheromones and the number of them coexisting, they played well togther… those on the receiving end became playful, sometimes there would be spontaneous laughter that would take over the room, there wasn’t the almost morbidly sexual fixation that can happen with too much none, it was a light champagne and breeze sexuality … I also noticed that everyone was far more relaxed about how they were perceived, they weren’t all defensive or even their ususal distancing mechanisms were turned way down… I’m hypthothizing that MEO-EST, TAC, and Iso E Super may be in the family of “wisdom pheromones” that help address the emotional health of the community, tribe, clan, as opposed to being one-on-one reproductive signals or territoriality signals… Where pregnenolone fits into this is anyon’es guess… preg so far appears to be like MSG, the salty flavor enhancer that ups the taste response, although I think the tilt is sexual… ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 5:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iso-e-super-as-a-pheromone-harmonizing-ingredient/401/8 "2006-06-10T05:31:28Z")
Thanks for bringing this one up - interesting experiment with Molecule 01 (ISO E Super)! I saw this on the net a few months back and wondered how it would interact with mones. I would like to see others report back results with this product in combination with pheromones especially -None. There has to be something to take away the ‘weirdness’ that often comes with high -None applications. It might be ISO E Super, it might be Oxytocin, who knows? [http://www.harveynichols.com/output/page450.asp](http://www.harveynichols.com/output/page450.asp) “The second scent, Molecule 01 contains only Iso E Super, which on its own is less of an aroma, more an effect. A subtle velvetly woody note vanishes then re-appears after some time. The wearer will notice the impact of the fragrance on other people - Molecule 01 lends radiance to the wearer, giving a pheromonic effect.” Now Regarding Preg: “pregnenolone is an upstream pro-hormone, my guess would be that the dectable presence of preg signals a powerful biological organism that can throw off that much as excess production” So Tacitus (or anyone else for that matter-itwow?) you have actually tried putting on Pregnenolone on your skin and using it as a pheromone right? I mean we could hypothesise all we want about what it COULD do but what IT ACTUALLY DOES when applied topically as a pheromone is what matters I think!🙂 And you think Preg APPLIED TOPICALLY sends off a slightly sexual signal? Visionary ---
**Author:** ![itwow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/itwow/32/1493_2.png) [@itwow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/itwow)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 5:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iso-e-super-as-a-pheromone-harmonizing-ingredient/401/9 "2006-06-10T05:50:37Z")
Just ordered a small quantity of pregnenolone & DHEA. Not sure if it could pass through customs though. I’ve also ordered LT (oxytocin) from the manufacturer. There’s also a coupon thing available. I’m also having serious trouble with gays in my office. Not sure if it’s due to the wrong mix I’m wearing (it’s not copulins). Any recommendation wrt mones to help the situation? Thanks. Some homosexual discussion here > [@A1, EST in straight men, gay men and women](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-est-in-straight-men-gay-men-and-women/80/9): > > Does this mean A1 actually attracts homosexual men while giving depression to normal males? Any users here experienced positive homosexual responses while wearing A1? The article was really heavy reading (could someone please break it down if possible, thanks). I’d like to find out more about homosexuals as well as straight females as my office have plenty of both. i2w ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 2:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iso-e-super-as-a-pheromone-harmonizing-ingredient/401/10 "2006-06-12T02:47:18Z")
> [@itwow](#): > > I’m also having serious trouble with gays in my office. Not sure if it’s due to the wrong mix I’m wearing (it’s not copulins). Any recommendation wrt mones to help the situation? Thanks. > > Some homosexual discussion here > [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-est-in-straight-men-gay-men-and-women/80/9](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a1-est-in-straight-men-gay-men-and-women/80/9) Hey itwow what mix are you wearing that causes the negative effects on gay men? Visionary ---
**Author:** ![itwow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/itwow/32/1493_2.png) [@itwow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/itwow)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2006, 3:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/iso-e-super-as-a-pheromone-harmonizing-ingredient/401/11 "2006-06-12T15:54:27Z")
> [@Socrates](#): > > Hey itwow what mix are you wearing that causes the negative effects on gay men? > > Visionary PheroFragrance (women)