# Isolated experiment number 2 idea **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 22, 2008, 8:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/isolated-experiment-number-2-idea/11687 "2008-04-22T20:17:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Streetarson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/streetarson/32/1550_2.png) [@Streetarson](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Streetarson)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2008, 8:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/isolated-experiment-number-2-idea/11687/1 "2008-04-22T20:17:26Z")
Here is my new experiment to weed out false positive hits. My idea 5 guys all will grab a bottle and spray it on them containing [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/). Catch only i know that only 1 bottle actually had phero’s in it and the smell of the phero will be concealed with cologne. I will record and document there hits each night and get an average. Ill randomly have a diffrent guy with phero’s each night. some times the same guy. They will believe they have phero’s on them now i will record each hits from each guy and see how the average comes off. this will be my master test of pheromones Placebo/self or phero ---
**Author:** ![idle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/idle/32/344_2.png) [@idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idle)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/isolated-experiment-number-2-idea/11687/2 "2008-04-22T20:54:42Z")
Its a nice idea.. if you have the time for this thing … What exactly will be in this ONE bottle with pheromones? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2008, 8:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/isolated-experiment-number-2-idea/11687/3 "2008-04-22T20:58:02Z")
I like that scientific approach man!!! Keep us updated! ---
**Author:** ![Streetarson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/streetarson/32/1550_2.png) [@Streetarson](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Streetarson)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2008, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/isolated-experiment-number-2-idea/11687/4 "2008-04-22T21:05:47Z")
> [@idle](#): > > Its a nice idea.. if you have the time for this thing … > What exactly will be in this ONE bottle with pheromones? 🙂 Im going to figure it out but it will involve mixs of A314 instant honesty instant openness Instant shine turn up the heat i work with these now to figure out how to do this without my lab rats _caugh_ i mean friends from finding out that i didnt give them phero’s will be fun. Ya i got plenty of time i go out at least 4x a week with the same group of friends and they do as i say not as i do. Im mr. alpha ;p ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 2:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/isolated-experiment-number-2-idea/11687/5 "2008-04-27T02:38:36Z")
_bumpy_ I want news! ---
**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 2:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/isolated-experiment-number-2-idea/11687/6 "2008-04-27T02:44:43Z")
A mix like that would hinder my sexual success perhaps biasing the results. I would try and have them wear instant honesty mixed with ammo. Great idea man. If i could, i would give you 100 reputation points. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 2:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/isolated-experiment-number-2-idea/11687/7 "2008-04-27T02:52:35Z")
> [@thomaslavoie](#): > > A mix like that would hinder my sexual success perhaps biasing the results. I would try and have them wear instant honesty mixed with ammo. I’m not sure if I understood this correctly, please correct if I am, but I believe you make a good point. The combos that work well for you or one of your friends might not be the best combo for another friend that is being tested. The question that your test brings up is: If each person had an “optimal” (I say “optimal” because there is never one solid “perfect” mix) tailored for their persona, physical appearance, needs and desires, how would the experiment pan out? Would you all be competing equally amongst each other? Or would the different mixes attract different girls? ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 3:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/isolated-experiment-number-2-idea/11687/8 "2008-04-27T03:37:54Z")
This is definitly a great idea to really see what is placebo and what is genuine 😃 Btw, I think that Androtics might be already doing this, someone mentioned (i believe its jasmin) that one or two putative products contains no pheromone or [putative pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product-category/advanced-pheromones/putative-pheromones/) at all EDIT: It was michael, pretty sure, but can’t pinpoint on the exact post. And I think he meant to explain to whole idea of putative, so no one should worry about this ---
**Author:** ![ponderu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ponderu/32/465_2.png) [@ponderu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ponderu)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 3:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/isolated-experiment-number-2-idea/11687/9 "2008-04-27T03:56:11Z")
A basic single blind test. To truly test, a double blind is generally used so that they observer is not biased since he does not know who has the real product. One problem with your test is smell. Your combination of real product is going to have a scent, you will need to have a match to that scent or they will know the guy that smells is the one wearing them. You would have to use a cover that is strong enough to hide it and that will skew your results since it could be that the hit was on the scent and not the product. All in all worth trying but it will be a lot of work to make it viable. Ponderu ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 9:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/isolated-experiment-number-2-idea/11687/10 "2008-04-27T09:47:40Z")
> [@mockingbird](#): > > Btw, I think that Androtics might be already doing this, someone mentioned (i believe its jasmin) that one or two putative products contains no pheromone or putative pheromone at all Really? Do you have a link to that post please? Somehow I cannot imagine this to be true, because personally I would be a little pissed when I’d give Androtics my hard earned money for something that is intended to not work at all… ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 11:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/isolated-experiment-number-2-idea/11687/11 "2008-04-27T11:32:16Z")
Michael has mentioned this before, Putatives are molecules **suspected** to act like pheromones. Some end up working out some dont. So yes there are some that may not do squat and they do have a general idea what molecules do what when they release them they are just looking for us to report consistantly with what they already know about each molecule. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 11:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/isolated-experiment-number-2-idea/11687/12 "2008-04-27T11:42:16Z")
I know Tish, but mockingbird wrote about products of which Androtics KNOW that they don’t work… I doubt that it’s really true, but one never knows! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 12:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/isolated-experiment-number-2-idea/11687/13 "2008-04-27T12:11:56Z")
> [@bubblebob](#): > > I know Tish, but mockingbird wrote about products of which Androtics KNOW that they don’t work… I doubt that it’s really true, but one never knows! 😉 I think he is referring to only the putatives, Its not that they KNOW they dont work. Its blind testing, In most blind testing one will be a placebo. This indicates how much is imagined and how much is real reactions. So if you buy say P79 you will get the **same** P79 as every other person. But as new putatives come out there may be one or two P numbers that just dont act as pheromones but they release them for testing to see the placebo effect which is important to there research findings as well. I am not saying this is there testing procedure but it is normal scientific practice. I think this is why Michael stresses “Suspected” when he releases a molecule for testing. I do recall the post he is referring to but I cant find it either. I will keep searching. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2008, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/isolated-experiment-number-2-idea/11687/14 "2008-04-27T18:05:12Z")
I personally would try the following: 4 guys wear a cologne that smells like ammo and 1 guy wears ammo. Or 4 guys wear a cologne and 1 guy wears unscented ammo with the same cologne.