# It appears I've been banned from LS.

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424>\
**Category:** Lounge\
**Created:** [June 15, 2006, 8:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424 "2006-06-15T08:09:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2008, 10:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/261 "2008-01-27T10:27:09Z")

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> [@Rbt](#):
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> Well I just ordered some scented A7 to see what it’s all about, and the Master’s. Even decided to go for it and got Yes and Lure as well just to see what the old “classics” had to offer.. The holidays2007 coupon of course was a big incentive…
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> Now to sort through my Androtics collection and see what I need to reorder. Wish those long-rumored new products would appear.

I’ve got the unscented a7 so I can use any cologne I like 🙂

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2008, 9:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/262 "2008-01-27T21:30:13Z")

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Tish: was hoping for more than just 4 “new” products… plus I’d like to see more “finished” stuff like Dirty rather than unknowns right now.

sigma: I still have the 3 pack test kit from KZI. Didn’t use it as much as I had wanted to. Plus if I recall it only was a test of ratios between two pheromones. I’m guessing that A7 probably, like the old “C7” (Chikara) contains 7 main ingredients… and probably androstenone heavy.

Phoenix: I like to test the scented versions just to see what they are like. I do admit I’m starting to lean toward getting unscented versions of some, especially if I’m not fond of the original cover scent (like original Impi. Really didn’t like it, and the Aquagen I have smells “cheap.”) I have been testing some scents/potions from Love Potions Perfumerie and find some are really really nice, and make good, unique covers. Allows me to custom mix the indiviual pheromones for specific purposes (like I like to go heavy on IFM and low on androstenone at funerals etc). Can also wear stand alone without pheromones if the situation demands. I still like “Grab and Go” like Chikara and Ammunition for more “general purpose” wear, but only if the scent agrees with me.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 1:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/263 "2008-01-28T01:24:07Z")

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> Tish: was hoping for more than just 4 “new” products… plus I’d like to see more “finished” stuff like Dirty rather than unknowns right now.

I agree, me to. 😉

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2008, 7:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/264 "2008-01-28T07:34:00Z")

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> [@Rbt](#):
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> sigma: I still have the 3 pack test kit from KZI. Didn’t use it as much as I had wanted to. Plus if I recall it only was a test of ratios between two pheromones. I’m guessing that A7 probably, like the old “C7” (Chikara) contains 7 main ingredients… and probably androstenone heavy. Apparently its compared to PI + a dash of androterone

According to the product description on LS and the discussions on the forum, Alpha 7 is a mix of androstenone + androsterone. I believe its a 6:1 ratio none:Androsterone. Pretty simple mix in the product, but high quality pheromones none the less.

> [@Rbt](#):
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> Tish: was hoping for more than just 4 “new” products… plus I’d like to see more “finished” stuff like Dirty rather than unknowns right now.

I really hope that Chemical Romance, perhaps in an oil based form, comes out as a retail product soon!

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 2:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/265 "2008-01-29T02:04:41Z")

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> [@sigma](#):
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> According to the product description on LS and the discussions on the forum, Alpha 7 is a mix of androstenone + androsterone. I believe its a 6:1 ratio none:Androsterone. Pretty simple mix in the product, but high quality pheromones none the less.

Ah, I see where the “7” may come from. 1 part to 6 parts = 7.

Unfortunatley I preferred the lower androstenone sample. Will have to dig em out and see what the ratios actually were.

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 7:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/266 "2008-01-29T07:53:58Z")

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> [@Rbt](#):
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> Ah, I see where the “7” may come from. 1 part to 6 parts = 7.
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> Unfortunatley I preferred the lower androstenone sample. Will have to dig em out and see what the ratios actually were.

1. .5mg/mL A-None & .1mg/mL A-Androsterone
2. .4mg/mL A-None & .2mg/mL A-Androsterone  
**3) .3mg/mL A-None & .3mg/mL A-Rone**

I liked the 1:1 none:Androsterone ratio one too. I remember most people preferring that ratio…wonder why they opted for such an androstenone heavy product like A7. Easier to market maybe? I was a little disappointed that they didn’t release a commercial product more in line with those bottles.

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**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 1:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/267 "2008-01-29T13:28:35Z")

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> [@sigma](#):
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> 1. …I liked the 1:1 none:Androsterone ratio one too. I remember most people preferring that ratio…wonder why they opted for such an androstenone heavy product like A7. Easier to market maybe? I was a little disappointed that they didn’t release a commercial product more in line with those bottles.

The 1:1 none:Androsterone ratio is what I use in my basecoat mixes.

Perhaps the reason it’s not popular commercially is that the effects are more balanced and you’re less likely to see “off-the-wall” behaviors new users often count as “hits.”

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2008, 2:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/268 "2008-01-29T14:34:46Z")

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I am just hoping SteveO’s magic mixes come out in MX form soon.

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2008, 1:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/269 "2008-01-30T01:37:13Z")

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I dug out my sample test kit and noticed the .4/.2 was the one I must have used the most as it was the lowest. I gave the .5/.1 a try today paired with some LPP Adam as cover (a couple of dabs of both). No one ran screaming, in either direction (either toward me or away from me). May have to play with them some more, and with the actual A7 product when it arrives.

I love those cute little bottles.

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2008, 2:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/270 "2008-01-30T14:58:22Z")

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> [@Rbt](#):
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> I dug out my sample test kit and noticed the .4/.2 was the one I must have used the most as it was the lowest. I gave the .5/.1 a try today paired with some LPP Adam as cover (a couple of dabs of both). No one ran screaming, in either direction (either toward me or away from me). May have to play with them some more, and with the actual A7 product when it arrives.
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> I love those cute little bottles.

Androsterone has proven to be a very good buffer to androstenone…which is probably why those little bottles were so effective (despite their relatively simplicity). I’m probably going to give A7 a try eventually..especially since it seems to be growing a preference over NPA on LS.

On another note…

I’ve been playing with NPA again recently and have had great results. I had forgotten how good NPA is as a sexual product…good stuff.

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**Author:** ![Pythia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pythia/32/222_2.png) [@Pythia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pythia)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 1:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/271 "2008-02-04T01:44:48Z")

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> [@catlord17](#):
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> To my surprise, I might add, since I have no idea why. If someone could do me the favor of asking, I’d appreciate it.

Oh, EVERYBODY’S been banned by L-S! Including some of the best, wittiest people!

I was around when the FIRST big batch was tossed. Apparently the big guy’s (forgot his name) wife was having a baby, and some of the posters got on his nerves.

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**Author:** ![Leisha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leisha/32/496_2.png) [@Leisha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Leisha)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 2:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/272 "2008-02-04T02:31:41Z")

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> [@Pythia](#):
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> Oh, EVERYBODY’D been banned by L-S! Including some of the best, wittiest people!
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> I was around when the FIRST big batch was tossed. Apparently the big guy’s (forgot his name) wife was having a baby, and some of the posters got on his nerves.

Why didn’t you all pass the hat around and send him a 3 month supply of valium, ha ha its the stressed housewifes best friend. 🙄

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**Author:** ![jvkohl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jvkohl/32/1297_2.png) [@jvkohl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jvkohl)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/273 "2008-02-04T03:19:19Z")

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> [@Leisha](#):
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> Why didn’t you all pass the hat around and send him a 3 month supply of valium, ha ha its the stressed housewifes best friend. 🙄

The problems didn’t start until he had been adding product after product to his inventory–with no thought as to the manufacturer or the claims made. I think the expansion of his product line has been part of the market bastardization of the concept. This certainly hasn’t done me any good professionally, as it makes the science of [human pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) take a back seat to product sales.

James V. Kohl  
author/creator The Scent of Eros  
`http://www.pheromones.com`

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**Author:** ![Pythia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pythia/32/222_2.png) [@Pythia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pythia)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2008, 3:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/274 "2008-02-04T03:47:35Z")

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> [@jvkohl](#):
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> The problems didn’t start until he had been adding product after product to his inventory–with no thought as to the manufacturer or the claims made. I think the expansion of his product line has been part of the market bastardization of the concept. This certainly hasn’t done me any good professionally, as it makes the science of human pheromones take a back seat to product sales.
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> James V. Kohl  
> author/creator The Scent of Eros  
> `http://www.pheromones.com`

I wondered WTF happened to him! It just all went to hell, and stayed that way! People got kicked off, left, right, and center. Some of the worst creeps were allowed to stay. At one point, we were invaded by some muscleheads from [bodybuilders.com](http://bodybuilders.com)…☹

He just became a TYRANT, and not a very selective one.

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**Author:** ![Holmes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/holmes/32/2128_2.png) [@Holmes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Holmes)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2008, 10:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/275 "2008-02-05T22:02:59Z")

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> [@Pythia](#):
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> At one point, we were invaded by some muscleheads from [bodybuilders.com](http://bodybuilders.com)…☹

I remember that era well - and not all that fondly.

Their product totally sucked, too.

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**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2008, 11:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/276 "2008-02-05T23:32:06Z")

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> [@Holmes](#):
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> I remember that era well - and not all that fondly.

Yes that was _one_ of the low points at that forum.😠

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**Author:** ![Pythia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pythia/32/222_2.png) [@Pythia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pythia)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2008, 9:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/277 "2008-02-07T21:28:27Z")

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> [@Holmes](#):
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> I remember that era well - and not all that fondly.
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> Their product totally sucked, too.

Oh, yeah! I remeber you from there. I was “Anbreen.”

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**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2011, 10:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/278 "2011-05-08T10:48:58Z")

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> [@itwow](#):
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> AR offers equal customer service compared to LS, if not better.

I’d definitely lean towards “incrementally better”

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