# It appears I've been banned from LS. **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [June 15, 2006, 8:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424 "2006-06-15T08:09:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/101 "2006-08-11T01:32:28Z")
Well, people like that deserve to suffer ignorance. I find it rather amusing=) The way I see it, one less the competition.. and if it were someone competing.. at least make it an intelligent person rather than some idiot reading instructions from a bunch of notes. ---
**Author:** ![Visionary7903](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/45deac/32.png) [@Visionary7903](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Visionary7903)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 8:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/102 "2006-08-11T08:35:50Z")
Ail that was brave of you but I would not waste my time with that Bronzie. If you look at his posting record, he seems to be getting into silly arguments pretty much every week over there. He just isn’t worth it. A314 or whatever else can only do so much for someone like that. As Bronzie is a criminal lawyer, I guarantee it will help him in business a more than anything he has found over there. Can you imagine a guy with an undiplomatic manner walking around with -None lol. He would make enemies everywhere. I don’t care about the attack on the A314 advertising but A314 **as a product** works alright. And what are the alternatives in the office??? You wear -Nol and other ‘comfort’ products on their own and you can easily come off as a ‘lightweight’, especially with older people. You wear even a little -None and you are guaranteed of repelling some people even if you do get instant ‘respect/fear’. That is what makes A314 (combined with ‘comfort’ products) such a revolutionary product for me. It is a real alternative to -None and there is nothing else that can say that. Visionary > [@Ail](#): > > Well.. I may just have risked a ban myself, even though I was VERY polite to Bronzie.. > > I simply posted in his thread over there about A314 (which he has just received for the first time) where he again attacks the “b-grade” web-page, as he calls it - that perhaps if he had shown willing to listen when people from here gave him truthful reports about A314, he wouldn’t now be asking how it works, and what is in it. > > He really nips ma heid, as we Scots say… \>\_\< > > Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![itwow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/itwow/32/1493_2.png) [@itwow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/itwow)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 8:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/103 "2006-08-11T08:52:35Z")
People typically chooses what they want to believe in. If they’re into product bashing, no amount of convincing will work. ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 10:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/104 "2006-08-11T22:03:56Z")
Brave, or stupid? I dont know. “The Man,” says I can be too gobby for my own good.. I DO know I have spent a lot of today suffering (private PM) Hell from LS posters.. I give up, to be honest. Not like me in any way, but it seems what I say is irrelevant and the Troll wins. What a freaking world.. Ail ☹ ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 3:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/105 "2006-08-12T03:54:21Z")
> [@Bruce](#): > > Folks, > > I have to step in here. Whether A314 is a good product or a bad one, isn’t the main issue here in my mind. The company that makes it plays very dirty pool businesswise, or least they did with us and we can’t do business with them any longer. They got themselves banned from the forum for such unsportsmanlike conduct and that is what started the whole mess. Nothing more and nothing less. Such behavior sheds doubt on the products too of course, but other than that, I have no reason to consider the product less than top quality. Myself, I have a life to lead, kids to hug. I want to just put this chapter behind me, but it keeps coming back to haunt me. I very much appreciate all the emails and PMs of support I get from you all, but let’s just let it go. > Thanks, > B Wow. Thats pretty fucked up (excuse my language). He’s very diplomatic in his choice of words, but the message he’s trying to project is very clear. I know how you feel Ail, but I really don’t think its anything worth getting too worked up over. Howerver, it is frustrating when people so narrow mindedly bash something that has done so much for you personally…and pheromones do quite a lot for us don’t ya think? There are people on LS that I’d really like to introduce to AR, not because I want to harm LS’s business, but because I genuinely think it would be of great benefit to them. Its their loss for being close-minded though, not yours. I personally haven’t purchased anything from LS for quite a while…the quality of the products offered here is a step above anything I’ve tried at LS…why would I? I really want to try pherofragrance though - Dr. Smell This knows his stuff. I also kinda miss SOE, but I’m confident that the IO I ordered would make a fine replacement (once USPS gets off its arse!). In the end, the general consensus at LS is that products offered elsewhere are junk, and that anyone who gives praise to another vendor is a rep trying to scam forum members into buying their stuff. It actually has happened in the past, so I don’t blame them for thinking that way…but again its their loss for being close minded, not yours. For an attorney, I find it amusing that Bronzie would make such a strong argument against AR based on unfounded, misguided _assumptions_ about how AR does its business. He’s merely a zombie to LS’s mindlessly biased perception of the industry…He sang LS’s tune without building a real understanding himself and made a complete ass of himself without ever realizing it. Laugh it off, because we all know you’re right 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 11:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/106 "2006-08-12T11:09:11Z")
Yes, I responded to one of the e-mails I got yesterday (my info on THAT e-mail addy is no longer available at LS, for obvious reasons) which mentioned the fact that bronzie is a respected lawyer - that I would not have him represent me, supposing I was in a coma! I await a response… Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2006, 5:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/107 "2006-08-13T17:35:43Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > Yes, I responded to one of the e-mails I got yesterday (my info on THAT e-mail addy is no longer available at LS, for obvious reasons) which mentioned the fact that bronzie is a respected lawyer - that I would not have him represent me, supposing I was in a coma! > > I await a response… > > Ail 🙂 Lemme know how that goes ---
**Author:** ![itwow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/itwow/32/1493_2.png) [@itwow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/itwow)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2006, 6:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/108 "2006-08-14T18:52:45Z")
> [@sigma](#): > > …Howerver, it is frustrating when people so narrow mindedly bash something that has done so much for you personally…and pheromones do quite a lot for us don’t ya think? There are people on LS that I’d really like to introduce to AR, not because I want to harm LS’s business, but because I genuinely think it would be of great benefit to them. Its their loss for being close-minded though, not yours… More pheromones = more fun! Guess what led us here? I was glad for the exposure, otherwise we’d be still stuck in the same group as them. As we approach greater mastery of using the mones, we search for more… Those who are close-minded allow people to make the decision for them. It’s easier that way… Just let it roll off your back. Much of the work to use pheromones successfully lies with the user, not the supplier. Mone users should be more pro-active. The only complaint is not enough money & test environments. Or the time. i2w ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 1:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/109 "2006-08-15T01:10:14Z")
> [@itwow](#): > > More pheromones = more fun! Guess what led us here? I was glad for the exposure, otherwise we’d be still stuck in the same group as them. > > As we approach greater mastery of using the mones, we search for more… Those who are close-minded allow people to make the decision for them. It’s easier that way… > > Just let it roll off your back. > > Much of the work to use pheromones successfully lies with the user, not the supplier. Mone users should be more pro-active. The only complaint is not enough money & test environments. Or the time. > > i2w Ironically, getting to pheromones at all requires a very open mind, and willingness to take some personal risk. Trying out pheromones for the first times requires that one think outside the box of mainstream thought, and give pheromones a try before passing judgement. Its kinda baffling to me that they’d be so closed minded after having taken the phero plunge at all. Point is, sucking it up, taking the plunge, and trying pheromones has paid off considerably for most of us. Venturing outside of LS has also paid off considerably for me, and has opened me up to a wealth of pheromones and products I wouldn’t have had any exposure to otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2006, 9:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/110 "2006-08-23T21:13:10Z")
> [@sigma](#): > > Ironically, getting to pheromones at all requires a very open mind, and willingness to take some personal risk. Trying out pheromones for the first times requires that one think outside the box of mainstream thought, and give pheromones a try before passing judgement. Its kinda baffling to me that they’d be so closed minded after having taken the phero plunge at all. > > Point is, sucking it up, taking the plunge, and trying pheromones has paid off considerably for most of us. Venturing outside of LS has also paid off considerably for me, and has opened me up to a wealth of pheromones and products I wouldn’t have had any exposure to otherwise. Yes, I think this is spot on. What’s a little puzzling to me is that many people who are otherwise very curious and open-minded and are willing to take classes in body movement, voice training and be hypnotised in order to improve their social/love lives are not open even to experimenting with 'mones. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 5:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/111 "2006-08-25T17:44:20Z")
> [@PheroQuirk](#): > > Yes, I think this is spot on. What’s a little puzzling to me is that many people who are otherwise very curious and open-minded and are willing to take classes in body movement, voice training and be hypnotised in order to improve their social/love lives are not open even to experimenting with 'mones. funny you should say that… i hang in a small town that for the most part is openminded. i have found it challenging… in a good way… to educate the same people who are less concientious about what they put IN their bodies. for instance, i know a few who purposely will throw down a few beers/shots in order that they are more comfortable being social. its addictive to ingest something that imediately appears to make people have fun around you. it doesnt matter in any event that it may or may not be doing just that,lol. so how about foregoing those beers, raise our confidence level with 'mones, and excersize our personalities? im beginning to sound like a minister… ---
**Author:** ![thenoser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thenoser/32/2199_2.png) [@thenoser](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thenoser)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 5:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/112 "2006-08-25T17:58:12Z")
haha - reverend lor. what kind of church would **that** be? ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 6:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/113 "2006-08-25T18:13:44Z")
> [@thenoser](#): > > haha - reverend lor. what kind of church would **that** be? hmmmm… Church Of The Blessed 'Mones… The All-'Mones church … church of sniffs n giggles… Unitarian products church… shall i go on? come on a sunday and worship our great science experiment. give to the collection box so that others may experience 'mones. have some wine because… well because its good. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2006, 8:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/114 "2006-10-11T08:54:28Z")
I am bumping this as a few of the people who have migrated from LS appear to be confused about certain issues. Hopefully, this will clear it all up. Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bronzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bronzie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bronzie)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 10:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/115 "2006-10-18T22:34:53Z")
I crossed over into this site and became a forum member, not because I actually want to post in here, but needed to become a member to quench my curiosity of the all successful “sealed and hidden section” of A314, all I have to say is Laugh. I have read through this post, and it is quite evident that a lot of people have way to much time on their hands, complaining, bickering over an internet forum, namely love scent, and discrediting certain members, including the moderators and the owner of love scent. All I have to say is “wake up and smell the coffee”. Obviously, many of you have no clue on how business are run or have no experience in a corporate environment. Love Scent is a business like any other, and to my knowledge the most successful online business of its kind. The moderators do exactly that, moderate, in line with their companies business ethic, they have a duty to allow members an amount of free reign in discussion, however they have a duty to their boss and not at the expense of their own sales and products, therefore, if they feel their sales will in anyway be threatened by an individual, they will be banned, plain and simple. These forums are NOT public domains, including this one; they are private enterprises and exist for one reason only, to promote their products, increase sales, make a profit! through discourse! this is a form of marketing in itself. Anyone that thinks these places are research and development forums, are deluding themselves. I don’t actually see a difference between this site and love scent in how people post, the pattern is the same. In here people post with regards to this sites products, in love scent, people post with regards to their products (generally). As soon as one logs into either forum, they form an instant loyalty to that site, and people tend not to stray, some out of fear that they will be banned, but MOSTLY out of social proof and product loyalty (follow the leader on a smaller scale). The pool of potential pheromone users is limitless and the owners of these sites understand this very fact, it does not belong to the few outspoken members that post in these forums frequently (they are expendable!!) so for you members that think you are somehow “special” and “worthy” and have thousands of posts under your name and have been banned, and cry afterwards thinking, why me?, wake up and smell the roses, you actually don’t matter in the end!!! You’re a just a tool that is used by these entrepreneurs in selling their products!!! They make the money, you do the talking! Moderators will ban a member at the drop of the hat if they feel their company is in anyway being breached. There are way too many ignorant pheromone forum members; this is not surprising at the nature of the product. ---
**Author:** ![bronzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bronzie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bronzie)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 10:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/116 "2006-10-18T22:37:12Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > Yes, I responded to one of the e-mails I got yesterday (my info on THAT e-mail addy is no longer available at Love Scent, for obvious reasons) which mentioned the fact that bronzie is a respected lawyer - that I would not have him represent me, supposing I was in a coma! > > I await a response… > > Ail 🙂 Ail, I have no clue who you are in L-S, nor do I know when or if we ever crossed lines in any post, obviously your persona is inflated in this forum and timid in L-S, I have no recollection of being involved in any online altercation with you or any woman on the love scent forum. Yes, im a criminal Lawyer, im also a Human Rights Lawyer, and a specialist in International Law. If you ever need representation while in “transit”, let me know. ---
**Author:** ![itwow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/itwow/32/1493_2.png) [@itwow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/itwow)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 2:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/117 "2006-10-19T02:07:37Z")
**@bronzie** It’s been ages & you’re still mulling over this small pea. Go away! Shoo! Jalan terus & jangan balik! PS : Do you happen to serve at Guantanamo Bay? ---
**Author:** ![bronzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bronzie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bronzie)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 2:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/118 "2006-10-19T02:39:46Z")
> [@itwow](#): > > **@bronzie** > It’s been ages & you’re still mulling over this small pea. Go away! Shoo! Jalan terus & jangan balik! > > PS : Do you happen to serve at Guantanamo Bay? it, Im glad you know me, because I dont know you nor have the faintest idea who you are? and that is what counts! do I serve at Guantanamo? if this is an attempt at sarcastic humor, dont leave your day job (if you have one) to become a comedian, you wont succeed. Im also multilingual, Na Pana Gamithis. Try translating that vre kseftilos. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 5:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/119 "2006-10-19T05:37:45Z")
Seriosly bronzie. No one cares what you have to say. Your arguments are often so unfounded, biased, and unreasonable that its laughable. But no ones cares. Even the posters on LS don’t take your posts seriously. You’re more than welcome here if you’re willing to present an open mind to different products. But whats the point of posting here if you have nothing positive to contribute. Do you really want to be classified as a troll? FYI, many of the posters that ended up here are seasoned LS users. We’re not blindly following brand loyalty and not all of us were ‘mistreated’ by LS. Most of us are here because the products here are simply better than anything LS has to offer. I still openly incoroprate LS’s products into my mixes, particularly the none based mixes from lacroy. Those are good. It isn’t strictly a matter of brand or forum loyalty. We follow qualilty. Thats all there is to it. ---
**Author:** ![traderneil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eb9ed0/32.png) [@traderneil](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/traderneil)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2006, 8:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424/120 "2006-10-19T20:08:34Z")
To Bronzie: Are you being paid to talk like a JERK, or are you just a JERK! The first listing of this post was June 15,2006, today is October 19,2006 some four months later…How can you talk about having too much time on your hands…Most of us have even forgotten about this post. So why is that you are bringing it up now so much later. And who are you anyway (Maybe Belgarath in disguise.) A lot of the folks in this forum came from Love Scent. I see very few complaints about the Love Scent product line, I for one have used their products and I thought that Bruce was ok. Let me explain something to you.The forum members are the ones who buy the products and use them. Since we are the customers then we are ones that have to happy, (not some of the moderators at Love Scent who are probably frustrated and uninteresting people anyway, that want to be bossy). The FORUM IS THE Business,The Store Is the Forum.The Forum members are the BUYERS\> Understand??? If you have tried any AD products than you know the quality control is very good, as well as their prices and return policies. Remember this is a new and small company but their reasearch and development is excellent. So if you are a new member here than give it a little longer. And if you are an undercover agent for someone at Love Scent thats ok too, you have the right to express your self here on this forum anytime without GESTAPO Approval.🙂 🙂 🙂 Traderneil Sin City [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424.md?page=5) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/it-appears-ive-been-banned-from-ls/424.md?page=7)