# Its been way too long... Everything I know about Smartmones Pheromones. :-) **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 9, 2010, 8:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-way-too-long-everything-i-know-about-smartmones-pheromones/36862 "2010-03-09T08:20:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2010, 8:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-way-too-long-everything-i-know-about-smartmones-pheromones/36862/1 "2010-03-09T08:20:15Z")
This post is a long time coming. Life has finally, it seems, fallen under the proper arrangement to allow for time. Since about October or so, life has been a crazy blur whirlwind of activity, travel, ups, downs, and extreme time management. It has been a long time since I have posted my observations, let alone even visited the Pherotalk forum. So, dream up whatever excuse you believe to be reasonable and we will be done with it. But the good news is, I come bearing information. I have continued my enthusiasm for Pheromone experimention daily since my last post, sometime in November. These incredible products have opened my eyes to things that cannot be defined in words. The internal machinations of my own mind have been tweaked, modified, and reprogrammed simply by using these potions that are, in essence, the chemical messengers of varying states of being. There are countless posts that talk about exactly how these Pheromones work. Perhaps they cause the body language of others to change, which in turn causes the user to experience a particular emotional set. Maybe they just simply make you horny. Who knows? I am coming more and more to the realization that they simply do work. And, of course, it is par for the course to say that he who is mindful of the “how” may be careless of the “why.” I am fortunate in that I am not in the Pheromone experiment alone. I have four close friends that experiment with me. We go out, use different products, and then discuss our results openly. Because of this, I feel as if I have been afforded an insight into the use of Pheromones that simply cannot be communicated via a forum. But to see a friend whom I know intimately… His usual body language, speech patterns, behaviours and attitudes shift completely mere minutes after spraying on a product… And then to watch him go out into a crowd and watch the results provides and education that is deep and robust. I highly encourage people to experiment with willing friends. As a result, I have learned A314 makes me into “something of a dick,” which brings no small amusement to my friends and wife. They enjoy seeing me, who is usually the nicest and happiest guy in the room, get into that mode. Ah, I digress. I purchased a few products some time ago and was so impressed with the results that I bought more soon after. I got my friends involved, and ever since not a day has gone by that I have not worn them and looked at results. I even was blessed by Smartmones with a few neat things to try. My collection grew rapidly to epic proportions. Add to that all of the wonderful freebies that we recieved and, well, I have had quite the variety of things to try. I still have a few MX products that have yet to be cracked, but I can safely say that I am quite familiar with most, their effects, and how to use them. So, anyway, that’s quite enough of a preamble. Here is what you really want, anyway. The way I will present this information is as follows. Each product that I own will be explained in full, to the best of my knowledge. What you will get is: Product name General thoughts and observations, my own and those of my friends. What it does to self, both internally and external behavior. What it does to others, including observations on gender, age, and group settings. Successes with the product Failure with the products Product combinations that function well (NOT Necessarily in this order…) As of now, I am absolutely fascinated and enthralled by the amazing, tremendous power of high dosage pheromones. Right now I am playing with 100mcg Bnol spray. The results are astounding. I can literally not seem to make enemies if I tried using this product… Anyway, look in my signature. All of those products will be explored over the next few days… Glad to be back, and to finally have a few moments to put all of this experimentation down and share it. I have been out of Instant Shine for awhile now, challenging myself to use up everything I have before getting new ones so I could learn them but… Well, I love me some Instant Shine… (And MX289… LOVE IT…) So, I guess that I am saying that now, experimentation is going to be less intense. For a bit now, I think I will simply focus on what I like to wear. (That means a shopping trip in the Smartmones store, YAY!) **UPDATE: The report So far.** It is important to note that in the method which I have educated myself that I have not done much research into the specific components of particular products. You won’t see me pointing out individual molecules and making guesses or associations about them simply because I have not read enough to know what I am talking about. What you will find is thorough and detailed observations on whole products. To this day, I am not entirely sure about what Nol this or None that is supposed to do, only due to the lack of time I have had to delve fully into the text research. However, I present to you my field research, which I suggest may prove a good read. I also ask you to consider the notion that these reports are my experiences only, and my perception of them. Your mileage may vary, depending upon your introspective ability and the way in which you process information. Cultivate the idea of introspection, and internal observation. Recognize the patterns of your own thought process and note the subtle changes in them, as one may listen to particular notes from a favored instrument amidst the playing of a symphony. It is of the utmost important to realize that, when wearing these products, you are not immune to their forces. Even when you are observing self effects, your perception will be skewed. I am a big proponent of group experimentation for this very reason. Unless your third eye is very developed, you may find yourself struggling to understand exactly what is going on with your thought stream. My interest is becoming less and less the things I can wear or use to impact others, and more about how these products impact my own thought patterns. Know thyself, and all that. As I observe the pathway patterns take, and then alter them with these products, it grants an insight that I cannot put into words. I encourage people to focus on the internal dialogue while “under the influence” to really, truly grasp the significance of these potions. As I gain control over my own mind, it is less about how the pheromones impact others and more about the skill I am developing at removing myself from the reality of emotions that are not functional. **A314** : For me, this product seems to create within my imaginative space a sense of control that is less about the need to be in control and more about just not caring. The emotional thrust here, for me, seems to be that I do not seem to worry about hurting anyone’s feelings as much, and internal cockiness reigns supreme. My emotions seem to slim down to either mild, confident relaxation or something like a mild irritation that is somehow inexplicably enjoyable. I might suggest the feeling is akin to the king thinking he is annoyed by his subjects, and yet still, it is good to be king. My patience for idiots dwindles to very low levels, but I am more likely to blow them off internally, and lose interest in most people. Even hot chicks that would have gotten my interest in the past seem to lose importance and yet, the more I ignore them while wearing A314 the more interested they are… (But the kind of girl I find that is drawn to me while wearing A314 isn’t always the best quality of girl. It’s the one that wants you to buy all her drinks and pay for her dinner, just because she’s pretty, rather than her ability to hold a conversation.) It is funny in that A314, used properly, can turn this archetype on its side and get this kind of girl working for your approval the more you ignore her. Aggressive, intelligent women seem to respond positively, as well. They are more likely to engage me in aggressive, cerebrally challenges. This is my cup of tea. There is a rush when applying this product that is unmistakable. I feel, amped, and yet cool. Ready. If I could sum up the feeling that A314 makes me feel “ready.” Bring it on. I attract more aggressive females when wearing it. Usually, one drop is enough to make me feel a bit cocky and calm, at the same time. Two drops, I start to notice a pretty obvious aggressiveness. Now, this is not what I would call the aggressiveness of an intelligent chess player attempting to make strategic moves. The more I apply, the emotion seems to lean towards more like a mental bark, or yelp, if you will. I get irritated a little easily while wearing higher doses. I seem to get irritated with men more, and women seem to more pleasant to me. Another thing I notice is that my ability to speak and communicate, which is already at a high level, seems to shift into a more commanding style rather than communicative. My verbal intonations become more staccato, more pointed, and my tone becomes a little edgier. I tend to be a bit bossier, give orders less subtly, which are more often than not followed. I have also noticed that I am more likely to take risks with A314, for better or worse. Potential negative results of any course of action seem to dim and become less important. It is great to wear when doing any sort of aggressive workout. For instance, when I finally get the nerve up to go sky-diving, I will be wearing this. All of that being said, I have had success with A314 and continue to use it now, albeit relatively rarely. Now I just wear it when I have an important meeting. For my personality type (ß---- READ THAT TWICE) and natural chemical signature, A314 has become a tactical product to be used only when I have a specific goal I need to accomplish which requires me to summon that inner-dickishness. It is effective, but not for every day use, for me at least. My friends, however, could probably get away with it every day. When worn in groups, there is an interesting phenomenon that happens that seems to increase the whole Wolf Pack dynamic. We have determined for us that, when me and my guy pals wear it together, there seems to be a high level of male bonding. We’re all very close to begin with, but this kind of bonding become less about intellectual conversation and more about busting each other’s balls, and aiming aggression at each other. In public, when the Pheromone laden Wolf Pack walks in wearing A314, we have noted that there is definite “herding.” For instance, if my pack sits down in an area, gradually, slowly, its as if a wide circle opens around us. Men seem to be pushed back to the borders of an invisible barrier. Women and gay men, for whatever reason, seem to either be drawn to be near us or unaffected at all, as far as the “invisible barrier” is concerned. We also seem more likely to engage in dominant body language when wearing this in groups. Younger women react in odd ways. For some, they are drawn like a magnet. Others, avoid us like the plague. Young men completely back off. There is failure when dealing with the natural Alpha Male type. They perceive aggression more from me. I have the unique knack of being able to talk to just about anyone and put anyone at ease with mere words. I falter and fail more when wearing A314 around natural alphas. An interesting thing I am experiencing at the moment is A314 is a good way to spot an alpha that is faking it. People that are only “acting” as an alpha behave as if they are intimidated by lashing out. I have found that the big dog rarely needs to bark. Wear this around someone who projects themselves as an alpha and watch the results. The true alphas are likely to be aggressive and yet nice to you, whereas the faux alphas yap, snarl, and bark more. If I am in a situation where it benefits me to provoke someone, or get under their skin, A314 is an excellent choice. I do not mind poking a bear with a stick if it means I will attain my goal. Sometimes, you need to be able to shake someone up in a business setting. This is that product. Just remember you are wearing it, else you could fall for your own bullshit. Overall, this product still is a must-buy for me. I rarely use it now, but when I need to achieve something that has me knocking heads with others, I can be assured that this product will work. Its almost a no-brainer as to when to use it. The successes I am having with it primarily are business, but the risk taking element is very much worth investigating, especially if you need a little courage to do anything, from talking to a girl to jumping out of a plane. I have found that I can nearly wipe out any ill or negative effects brought on by wearing it with a dose of Bnol 100mcg, which I am convinced is a miracle product. A314 also plays well with Spaceland, but only in a social setting. I have found that Instant Shine works, too. These seem to soften the edge. I also offer this gentle warning. This product should not be overused. Do not apply too often or too much. How much is too much? How often is too often? That’s for you to decide, but I can offer that in my experience, Once a week works just fine. I am now using this one about once every two or three weeks. It seems that the need for the frequency is decreasing over time. I do not equate this to a failure in this product, but rather a success. It does what it is supposed to do, if you pay attention to what is going on inside your melon. Used too often, I found that there were ill effects. **CTTM2** We received a small freebie version of this and I just bought a large bottle. It works as advertised. People will want to talk to you. About anything. They will babble if you let them. However, it seems that its more about attracting them. It does not really seem to increase the talking of non-talkative people. One of my friends stopped wearing it at work because he couldn’t get anything done. People would hang out by his desk all day, even the boss. For me, the self effects seem somewhat negligible, but I am a pretty talkative person as it is. This is excellent for important social events. Since we had a small bottle spread out among a few people, I am not sure if I have really had the necessary experience to observe how my own mind works with this product but, externally, this is a handy little tool. The metaphor is that this is a great lure. The problem may be getting people to leave you alone. I have used it with A314, but only once or so, and I could not really tell any difference. **Instant Shine** This is simply a must-own. The first thing I bought was 1x, and just purchased the 2x. This can dovetail with nearly any other product, and I have played with it liberally. Internally, there seems to be a “letting go” of sorts. Not necessarily inhibitions, but the only way to describe it is “youthful exuberance.” It is that happy-go-lucky energy. There is a lifting and, well, a SHINE that seems to fill me up. The strangest and yet most accurate way I can describe it is that everywhere you go, you feel like you are at Disney Land, without the lines. If I am having issues with negative repetitive thought, this really seems to halt that pattern. Or, at least, it allows me to change the course of the internal dialogue to a more productive tone. It allows for a mental oasis in which I feel I can shift into a better mood just by willing it. I will daresay that I have conquered previously near-debilitating thought patterns by spraying this, and observing the internal change over the 10 or so minutes it takes for the system to recognize the effect. To understand the path that a thought takes while it is happening, again with that third-eye thing going, is a powerful tool to conquering anxieties. There is a calming effect that is undeniable. This brings me to the idea that fear, anxiety, and negative emotions become much, much less real. My thinking is that if I can spray something that allows me to cognate out of an anxiety-based pattern of thought, then the original pattern is merely a reaction to some unknown or non-important stimulus and not necessarily valid. Knowing this, Instant Shine has, over time, allowed me to develop a skill set of pretty much slapping various anxieties around and get my head straight. The product is not needed to combat anxiety anymore, but it sure is enjoyable to be within its embrace. My friends and I love this one. It just works. Parties are much more interesting when we wear this as a group. The name could not be more apt. When I wear it alone, I am perceived as much younger. I have had people guess my age and be wildly off, and younger people seem to want to talk to me much more. When worn in groups, people want to join your group. You will see people do crazy things and nearly bend over backwards to get near your group. Young adults will work very hard to get your group’s attention, even if it is acting up and misbehaving, or just being stupid. The funniest things happen when I have to run errands and interact with service people. They seem to lose professionalism and really want to be friendly, which is very enjoyable for me. Older people seem to respond to me with great, great enthusiasm as well, especially older women in their 60’s. I feel as if I am perceived as a friendly boy scout. The only downside is that I have found that some people seem to take me much less seriously while wearing it. I do not wear it in a business meeting setting unless I balance it with A314. For everyday work, its alright to wear. Instant Shine seems to be one of those door-opener products. It gets people to come to you with a positive intent, but its up to you to work it a little. Either way, I can always count on Instant Shine to put me in a good mood. It just makes swimming in the sea of humanity less muckier. **Turn up the Heat…** In the past, when I have discussed this product, and what it does, it has been pointed out that I was being vulgar. I do not consider myself, nor the human physiology a vulgar thing but simply what it is. After all, we are made of the same stuff of the universe, and therefore, in my eyes, nothing to be ashamed of.. So, in the spirit of not pressing anyone’s squeamish button, I will suggest that this product does exactly what it is supposed to do. And how. There are physical effects. This has been discussed at length in the forum and no need for me to say anything other than that this product works exactly as advertised and intended. **Instant Openness and Instant Honesty** These are both weird for me in that wearing them feels nearly identical to Instant Shine for me. Again, remember I have remained ignorant of the various compounds and ingredients in these products and their purported effects… But, anyway… In my own experience, people tell me everything. Often. For whatever reason, I am easy to talk to and I find myself getting told everything by everyone. Maybe its my natural pheromone signature or attitude… But, anyway. Both of these products, in my own experience, produce a sense of elation similar to Instant Shine. But its like it also has some sort of lure attached. The products seem to elicit talking from others. There appears to be some sort of bonding that goes on, but I can’t tell if that is from the talking or what. For whatever reason, people bond to me pretty readily and naturally with a little conversation. My friends claim these products get people talking to them. I have found that, when going into any sort of meeting, that a shot or two of either of these products produces a sense of warmth to the tone of conversation. My wife reports that these product makes her feel less shy, as she is a little shy sometimes. I have found that if I am wearing either one, it seems to amp up the quality of conversation we have at the end of our work days. We like to catch up and craft plans, etc., and I have experimented a few times by wearing either IS or IH and it just seems to improve the communication. That could be just perception. But, for all the world, the feeling is Instant Shine + a lure of some sort. Since last starting the above paragraphy type word arrangement, I have been playing with both of these, and it is difficult for me to discern a difference. Maybe its because of my own natural vibe? I am thinking I naturally produce similar stuff. Or maybe I am full of it. But I feel more like myself with these. EDIT: I am adding my wife’s two cents. She claims that she very much likes IO. She is someone who is a little shy to begin with, and she says that wearing this it makes her more likely to talk. She says that quality of conversation seems improved, she is talking more, and more likely to initiate conversation. For her, she says it is like instant courage to talk. It works very, very well for her and when we create our monthly goals. **Spaceland** This is my favorite social. I just got my new order in and absolutely loving it. It seems to put the majority of people at ease almost instantaneously. Why did I let us actually run out of this product? We have found that, in group experimentation, that this seems to attract people who are already of a more playful vibe. It is a fun, fun type of feel. Women seem to become much more likely to be very friendly towards one another in its presence, when worn by anyone. It should also be noted that two or three sprays, when applied to a woman, seems to attract other women like butterflies to flowers. The effect is rather impressive. My suggestion to any woman who is wishing to attract other women is to use this product before going out. The energy is very flirty, very open, and just “sweet,” as it has been described to me. My wife tried it with me the first time we got it and were floored at the results. She couldn’t go anywhere without some smiling, grinning, female person just wanting to introduce themselves. For me, I feel a sense of “Zen-ness” when I wear it. A relaxed, playful, flirty kind of zen. It is just the willingness to reach out, be verbally playful without so much of the anxiety associated with it. Also, it seems to relax me. Like Catnip to a cat. Hah. In group experimentation, it seems to create this overwhelming sense within the group of well being, and amplify fun. We appear to be the fun group and it tends to attract others. I am finding that, especially with Spaceland, there is definitely an increase in its effectiveness as distance decreases, but it seems to reach far. I have seen it appear to have a weak effect as much as 20 feet away, but that could just be observational bias. There is a a very noticeable effect at around 10 feet and wow, up close there is no doubt it works. I also like the way it smells. I find it very, very pleasant. As I am wearing it throughout the day, I forget I am wearing it. And I stop smelling it. I do not know if this is because it fades into background noise with the rigors of the day, or that it fades.. But sometimes, BAM, I just get reminder of the smell… This is fun in a bottle. It is flirty in a bottle. This is the party where everything was perfect, fun, and just all around enjoyable. Internally, I can say I just feel more at ease. Anxieties appear to be less in importance. I find that people are more touchy feely, even though the vibe is flirty it seems more innocent rather than anything else. **TAF** I received this as a gift. I am very, very respectful of this one. I have worn it only few times at a high dose of 50mcg. A few times are during meditative self meta programming sessions, as well as a few experiments with friends. I am still confused about this one. I know that it works, but I am not exactly certain how to describe it. There was once where it made me feel very, very agitated and meditation had to be discontinued… The other times I get the feeling that I “listen” better on this one, with more than just my ears. I feel that I absorb instruction easily. It seems useful for breaking patterns of behavior and developing new ones. A strong will, focused on a particular goal, may find that persistence is easier in the long run. Or you may not. Used properly, this can aid in self directed change. Or at least that is my very limited experience, however convincing. It seems that the people I have worn it around for group experimentation are all still very much a part of my life. I feel a deep affinity and bond towards these people. I have also worn it in group settings for an audience and it seemed to impact the audience a very great deal. They seemed to be especially taken with the performance, as if it had more of an emotional meaning for them. I really, really should experiment more with this one. **The MX’s** **MORE TO COME!!! Still have more products to write about!** ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2010, 1:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-way-too-long-everything-i-know-about-smartmones-pheromones/36862/2 "2010-03-09T13:46:15Z")
Hot Diggity!!! Welcome back Sigil I cannot wait for your extensive reviews of each of those products, amazing! ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2010, 2:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-way-too-long-everything-i-know-about-smartmones-pheromones/36862/3 "2010-03-09T14:57:59Z")
Hey, long time no hear from! Good to see you back and great post! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-way-too-long-everything-i-know-about-smartmones-pheromones/36862/4 "2010-03-09T16:10:49Z")
Thanks guys. I have some downtime after today… Its stupid amazing at how well these things work… The neat thing is using them and then getting your friend’s observations… It is much more effective than using it on yourself… I mean, after all, its true even when you aren’t using [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/)… Good frends help you find your blind spots… Learned all kinds of things… Such as, A314 turns me into what they have called “Loveable Asshole.” Whereas I thought it was effective in social situations, it turned out I was driving away my targets. Okay, off to take care of loose ends and finally enjoy a few days of rest. 😃 Snoops, Evolver, Bnol is amazing. ---
**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2010, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-way-too-long-everything-i-know-about-smartmones-pheromones/36862/5 "2010-03-09T16:46:09Z")
Oh, and just in case anyone was wondering… After all of my experimentation, I just placed an order for the stuff that I love the most and/or have had success. I just ordered Instant Shine x2 Spaceland (Both wifey and I love this one.) Come talk to me mix 2… (Had the travel size, results were so promising that I am grabbing a big bottle.) [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) - For a friend, he has had great success with this. Instant Sexiness for Women B - going to give this one a try for wifey… Also grabbed a travel spaceland for a friend… 🙂 Anyhoo, off for the day. Be back tomorrow with info. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2010, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-way-too-long-everything-i-know-about-smartmones-pheromones/36862/6 "2010-03-09T16:46:36Z")
> [@sigil.tech](#): > > Thanks guys. I have some downtime after today… Its stupid amazing at how well these things work… The neat thing is using them and then getting your friend’s observations… It is much more effective than using it on yourself… I mean, after all, its true even when you aren’t using pheromones… Good frends help you find your blind spots… > > Learned all kinds of things… Such as, A314 turns me into what they have called “Loveable Asshole.” Whereas I thought it was effective in social situations, it turned out I was driving away my targets. Okay, off to take care of loose ends and finally enjoy a few days of rest. 😃 > > Snoops, Evolver, Bnol is amazing. I can relate to all of the above statements. I have friends who know I wear pheros but I call them ‘aromatherapy’ products. I love when I have someone say, ‘What are you wearing?!!!’ because of some over the top reaction from someone. I like A314 but I run into the same thing you do with it. If I’m wearing androsterone I prefer [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). 🙂 I’ve started using beta-androstenol a LOT more than alpha androstenol in mixes because I love the bonding and closeness that people seem to feel when I’m wearing beta-androstenol. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2010, 5:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-way-too-long-everything-i-know-about-smartmones-pheromones/36862/7 "2010-03-09T17:10:40Z")
Benvenuto! Don’t mind me! I’m just BUMPING for this ride!!! Driver, Sigil, thought you and the lady had moved to Paris! Across the waters sharing your bed with something young, something French, something yummiest! 😉 I too, await your findings! Onwards!! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2010, 6:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-way-too-long-everything-i-know-about-smartmones-pheromones/36862/8 "2010-03-09T18:15:51Z")
I have also found that arrogance from A314, in both new and old LS version. I can’t wait for the new A314 formulas…it will be like a NEW WORLD ODOUR I too have recently discovered the joys of beta androstenol and I’m enjoying it a lot!!! ---
**Author:** ![Elaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5e9695/32.png) [@Elaye](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Elaye)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 12:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-way-too-long-everything-i-know-about-smartmones-pheromones/36862/9 "2010-03-10T00:34:17Z")
Welcome back! ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 2:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-way-too-long-everything-i-know-about-smartmones-pheromones/36862/10 "2010-03-10T02:54:14Z")
> [@evolver](#): > > I have also found that arrogance from A314, in both new and old LS version. I can’t wait for the new A314 formulas…it will be like a NEW WORLD ODOUR > > I too have recently discovered the joys of beta androstenol and I’m enjoying it a lot!!! Yep, the A314 “alpha attitude” can be a bit crazy. I always find that the best remedy for this…is jokes and laughter.:o It seems that if I smile more or look inviting this helps deter the “distancing” of A314. Oh and A1 seems to close that distance just fine as well, especially with the ladies.🆒 Oh and welcome back Sigil!😃 ---
**Author:** ![js7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@js7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/js7)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 3:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-way-too-long-everything-i-know-about-smartmones-pheromones/36862/11 "2010-03-10T03:15:36Z")
> [@Snoopyace](#): > > I’ve started using beta-androstenol a LOT more than alpha androstenol in mixes because I love the bonding and closeness that people seem to feel when I’m wearing beta-androstenol. Snoop, What beta-androstenol products are you using now and what alpha androstrenol products were you using? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 3:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-way-too-long-everything-i-know-about-smartmones-pheromones/36862/12 "2010-03-10T03:25:24Z")
Okay, so I am pounding away at my report… Yeah, A314 is interesting, especially when worn in groups. Me and my two male best friends all have worn it together. It creates an edginess that is somewhat hilarious. It brings out a competitiveness and and aggressiveness towards one another. But since we know we are “under the influence,” so to speak, it really makes for some interesting conversation about states of being. I am blessed with very very observant, introspective friends. Back to work! ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 3:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-way-too-long-everything-i-know-about-smartmones-pheromones/36862/13 "2010-03-10T03:27:34Z")
> [@js7](#): > > Snoop, > > What beta-androstenol products are you using now and what alpha androstrenol products were you using? > > Thanks I have made both ICM .05a and .05b (alpha androstenol) as well as ICM 1a and 1b. I’ve also used Instant Honesty and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) along with 50mcg per spray of Beta-androstenol and 50 mcg of Alpha-androstenol. Also several homebrew mixes. The reason I like Beta over Alpha is due to the quality of the bond that seems to occur. I actually used to like Alpha-androstenol better before I become more outgoing. Now I like the effects from Beta-androstenol much more. It has a closeness to the communication that Alpha-androstenol seems to lack. Instant Openness and Alpha-androstenol is quantity of communication and Instant Honesty and Beta-androstenol is quality of communication. ---
**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 3:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-way-too-long-everything-i-know-about-smartmones-pheromones/36862/14 "2010-03-10T03:36:42Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Benvenuto! > > Don’t mind me! I’m just BUMPING for this ride!!! > > Driver, Sigil, thought you and the lady had moved to Paris! Across the waters sharing your bed with something young, something French, something yummiest! 😉 > > I too, await your findings! > > Onwards!! 😉 Heheheeh… Nah, nothing so glamorous. The winter, and its attendant commitments, both business and personal, seem to chew through time. Add on top of that the usual holiday blues and idiocy, plus success at work… Its just been rough. A mixture of extreme success and difficult challenges, and days where you have to both laugh and cry. Not that I am complaining… We’re re-arranging our lives to outsource the most time consuming of tasks, drop commitments that are either not reciprocal or productive, and working on getting back more time. Money, power, all that stuff is not so difficult to come by for anyone with determination… But it seems that the most precious and valuable resource in the universe is time. So, we’re working diligently to create more of it. I am playing around with TAF. Honestly, it takes me to a weird place… But its interesting the effects it seems to have on my perception of time… ---
**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-way-too-long-everything-i-know-about-smartmones-pheromones/36862/15 "2010-03-10T17:02:14Z")
Ahhhhhhhhhh… Bleh… Nearly done… ---
**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 2:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-way-too-long-everything-i-know-about-smartmones-pheromones/36862/16 "2010-03-11T02:28:33Z")
Alright… Updated with what I have so far… > [@Snoopyace](#): > > I have made both ICM .05a and .05b (alpha androstenol) as well as ICM 1a and 1b. I’ve also used Instant Honesty and Instant Openness along with 50mcg per spray of Beta-androstenol and 50 mcg of Alpha-androstenol. Also several homebrew mixes. > > The reason I like Beta over Alpha is due to the quality of the bond that seems to occur. I actually used to like Alpha-androstenol better before I become more outgoing. Now I like the effects from Beta-androstenol much more. It has a closeness to the communication that Alpha-androstenol seems to lack. > > Instant Openness and Alpha-androstenol is quantity of communication and Instant Honesty and Beta-androstenol is quality of communication. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 3:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-way-too-long-everything-i-know-about-smartmones-pheromones/36862/17 "2010-03-11T03:06:19Z")
I’m curious Sigil, have you gotten a chance to try out A1/IFM? ---
**Author:** ![sigil.tech](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sigil.tech/32/2357_2.png) [@sigil.tech](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigil.tech)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 4:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-way-too-long-everything-i-know-about-smartmones-pheromones/36862/18 "2010-03-11T04:52:57Z")
Nope. what are those? ---
**Author:** ![mackie72](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mackie72/32/623_2.png) [@mackie72](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mackie72)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 10:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-way-too-long-everything-i-know-about-smartmones-pheromones/36862/19 "2010-03-11T10:55:46Z")
Wow that was a great report! I have had Beta androstanol (IH) in my stash for ages and it is only now that I am starting to appreciate the bonding (both male and female) that it creates. Respect to Sigil and I love your writing style. Mackie ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2010, 3:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-way-too-long-everything-i-know-about-smartmones-pheromones/36862/20 "2010-03-11T15:15:09Z")
> [@sigil.tech](#): > > Nope. what are those? [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) was a pretty successful product here but was quite underrated. It’s main ingredient was A1 which essentially gave men a shield that protected them from bitch fits, psycho girls, and other hormonal upheavals caused by…that time of the month where girls can get quite…untamable?🆒 Do a quick search and you’ll see what I’m talking about. It’s good stuff man and I HIGHLY advise you grab some especially whenever your wife is on the rag. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-been-way-too-long-everything-i-know-about-smartmones-pheromones/36862.md?page=2)