# It's hard to tell if it's working, but listen to this.

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 4, 2007, 3:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-hard-to-tell-if-its-working-but-listen-to-this/3969 "2007-06-04T03:56:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Thorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Thorick](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Thorick)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2007, 1:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-hard-to-tell-if-its-working-but-listen-to-this/3969/11 "2007-06-05T01:19:29Z")

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> [@bosshank](#):
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> Concur with Toil and Smoothplayer. Go for the friendly vibe. It does seem that a heavy Alpha (ie 'none) signature intimidates her. Some younger women are like that.

Thanks for the info man. Ya, from what I have read they recommend using little amounts of -none on younger women, but it seems maybe they were talking about people in their twenties and not people around 16, 17. I’m beginning to think it’s best not to use any -none at the moment, though I still want to make them become attracted to me somehow. Probably better to make them comfortable around me, and use my game to attract them- though I’m using that anyways even with -none.

Thanks man.

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