# Ive read, ive tried.. am i doing something wrong? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 4, 2007, 9:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ive-read-ive-tried-am-i-doing-something-wrong/5404 "2007-09-04T21:47:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![q-rock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/q-rock/32/2458_2.png) [@q-rock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/q-rock)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2007, 9:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ive-read-ive-tried-am-i-doing-something-wrong/5404/1 "2007-09-04T21:47:15Z")
hello everyone, i am a grade 12 High school student and am almost 18. i ordered in to-go bottles Ammo, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), and Turn up the Heat ( just for curiosity ). i have read many many post on what to use in high school and that i dont need alot because of my age, which i haven’t used that much. But i have ran into a problem. i have used all of them at least once, around people i dont know, people i do know. and of course i had to test the turn up the heat on my g.f. lol. but the problem is i have not seen almost any results what so ever, mabey a few chit chats, but nothing that couldn’t happen before. And i dont know if its how much i am spraying or where.. i have been spraying one shot of shine and one shot of ammo, on the back of my wrists then rub half on the front of my neck… and to be honest i love the smell of ammo and shine, but i have not seen any results on anyone… heat did nothing with my g.f. (lol well we wont go in detail why i dont need that anyway lol.) but even at school, i just wanted to see if i could get some looks and little flirt moments and stuff… and i have got nothing… ( by the way i have been using it for about a week now ) ( and another thing.. how long do they last? before i have to re-apply) so if i am doing something wrong or mabey i should change something in routine… just tell me.. because i want this to work so i can have faith when i go order more lol. thanks everyone 🙂 any help is great full 🙂 -Quinton ---
**Author:** ![q-rock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/q-rock/32/2458_2.png) [@q-rock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/q-rock)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 2:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ive-read-ive-tried-am-i-doing-something-wrong/5404/2 "2007-09-06T14:08:52Z")
well yesterday i am happy to say that i was satisfied with the products shine and ammo. i did 1X [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) on the front of my neck and 2X shine on the sides. and when i started to talk to girls in my school, it took a couple seconds but they def started to get more flirty, but how long do these products last? because i want to know when to top op the juice on me 🙂 haha. i still have no tried turn up the heat again… so i still dont know the best place to spray that… and i dont want to try at school, im going to test it on a girl i just met, see what goes down. Should i just spray it on my neck? anyway thanks again everyone 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![q-rock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/q-rock/32/2458_2.png) [@q-rock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/q-rock)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 9:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ive-read-ive-tried-am-i-doing-something-wrong/5404/4 "2007-09-06T21:43:12Z")
Wow thank you so much Tisha! that explains and helps alot 🙂 i have noticed that alot, with the sudden glances at me.. and now since it has been a couple days, girls starting to talk more.. i also get alot of girls saying i smell good hha.. does that mean that they are most likely being effected? but dont know what it is, so they say that its just must be the smell? also my girlfriend and i, are very sexually active lol, and we did it lots before i started using them. the bad thing is i only tested it once… but with ammo and shine on together, there were plenty of times that i didnt even make a move, she was the one that enforced us having sex lol.. which was funny thats why i wanted to try with turn up the heat… see if it could get worse ( in a good way lol ) i will try ammo alone with 1 1/2 than try it with shine. but i think the front and sides of the neck are working the best 🙂 and i will be trying turn up the heat with a girl alone at one point and see how it goes.. 🙂 anyways thanks again tisha, that was awesome, and cleared up alot 🙂 just one more question, how long do they usually last? because i have been re-applying at lunch which is about 3 1/2 hours ish. ---
**Author:** ![Astrocloud](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrocloud/32/1961_2.png) [@Astrocloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrocloud)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 10:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ive-read-ive-tried-am-i-doing-something-wrong/5404/5 "2007-09-06T22:03:55Z")
I think that because of your age you are overdosing. I would try [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) with the above pheros and see if that doesn’t help. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 2:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ive-read-ive-tried-am-i-doing-something-wrong/5404/6 "2007-09-07T02:33:35Z")
> [@Astrocloud](#): > > I think that because of your age you are overdosing. I would try Instant Female Magic with the above pheros and see if that doesn’t help. On which one the TUTH or the AMMO? I think at that age the ammo should be fine The ammo only has 2.5 mcg of none per spray but it is tempered already with other mones. Tuth is also 2.5 mcg but I dont think its tempered as much if at all. Alone or mixed with ammo he could have the OD affect. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![q-rock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/q-rock/32/2458_2.png) [@q-rock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/q-rock)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 4:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ive-read-ive-tried-am-i-doing-something-wrong/5404/7 "2007-09-07T04:22:13Z")
well i dont think i have been overdosing… mabey i only have been getting subtle results… but i still dont know how long they last… but i have been re-applying at lunch and that seems to be working. so im 🙂 but… there is a school dance tomorrow… and suggestions!? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 5:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ive-read-ive-tried-am-i-doing-something-wrong/5404/8 "2007-09-07T05:18:56Z")
You could try a tiny bit of heat on your upper lip, but it’s hard to get a fraction of a spray with togos. Maybe stick with your double shine single ammo mix. ---
**Author:** ![q-rock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/q-rock/32/2458_2.png) [@q-rock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/q-rock)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 5:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ive-read-ive-tried-am-i-doing-something-wrong/5404/9 "2007-09-07T05:45:22Z")
well i will try it hah.. see how it goes.. and inform you 🙂 lol i guess if i come back with hicky’s it worked.. if i come back with black eyes.. to much haha ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 5:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ive-read-ive-tried-am-i-doing-something-wrong/5404/10 "2007-09-07T05:51:48Z")
Buffered with shine it might not be so bad. If they’re willing to dance with you during the slow songs the chicks will definitely get a good whiff of heat. ---
**Author:** ![q-rock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/q-rock/32/2458_2.png) [@q-rock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/q-rock)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 5:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ive-read-ive-tried-am-i-doing-something-wrong/5404/11 "2007-09-07T05:54:43Z")
yah for sure i will try it out… thanks for your advice man 🙂 because that is true i wil have shine on. ---
**Author:** ![snook\_assassin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snook_assassin/32/1107_2.png) [@snook\_assassin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snook_assassin)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 2:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ive-read-ive-tried-am-i-doing-something-wrong/5404/12 "2007-09-08T02:39:22Z")
Hey q-rock… Here’s how I figured out my OD limit, and I honestly recommend that all newbies should do this with a -none based product at least once… I went to a mall that I usually don’t go to (Important that you’re around others that don’t have any idea who you are, since things may turn south.) and I sprayed 4 shots of ammo directly to my neck, one shot on the front, one to the left, back and right, so I was basically swimming in well-exposed -none.) I noticed that I was immediately edgy, signalling the OD. so, knowing why I was “cranky”, I calmed myself down, sat in the middle of the food court with my Sbarro’s pizza, and studied the crowd around me. I was, from that moment on, no longer skeptical that people are affected by other people who wear -mones. It was like a circle of people cleared out from around me within 5 minutes or so after I sat down. and once those people cleared out, no one else sat down within a 15 foot radius of me for the entire time I was there. Even the people who passed by me tended to give me more than my usual bubble of personal space. It was an interesting experience, one that I recommend that all newbies get under their belts. You have to be careful not to let the -mones get the better of you though… otherwise you could unknowingly pick a fight by sending out too many ‘pissed off’ vibes, ya know? ---
**Author:** ![q-rock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/q-rock/32/2458_2.png) [@q-rock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/q-rock)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 7:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ive-read-ive-tried-am-i-doing-something-wrong/5404/13 "2007-09-08T07:31:03Z")
hey yeah thats totally a good way to figure out your limit… thanks man My experience tonight at the dance went like this… a couple little drops of Turn up the Heat on my upper lip just dabbed on… 1X Ammo in the front of the neck 2X Shine on each side At first i felt confident with myself, and the guys were really nice to me, but i can really tell which girls are affected and which weren’t, with the girls that were affected they wanted to dance with me constantly… the others i got turned down hahah. o well. but it was neat to see how everyone reacts slightly different to pher’s, the reaction i got from the girls that were affected was awesome, hugs, got really into dancing it was fun… after like a couple hours since it was so hot in there i could tell immediately when the sweat started to kill the mix and die it down, but it worked for the time being which was good 🙂