# Jabez's Prayer: To become a better  PUA.

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jabezs-prayer-to-become-a-better-pua/49175>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [March 6, 2011, 7:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jabezs-prayer-to-become-a-better-pua/49175 "2011-03-06T07:00:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 7:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jabezs-prayer-to-become-a-better-pua/49175/1 "2011-03-06T07:00:50Z")

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Tonight I went out with a friend of mine. I gotta say I am a little rusty. Have not been out to the club for about 3 months. Life has been very busy. So we ended up getting lost for a brief period of time. Once we got to the club. I gave my buddy a shot of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) to use and a shot of IS. I really do like the F21 scent of Ammo. I used 2 shots of ammo. 1 to the chest/ neck and one to the hand that I rubbed on my wrists, Elbo spaces, and Hair and behind ears. We made our way into the club and I found a girl that I know. Shes a pretty good friend. She brought her little sister. Naturally I did the neigborly thing to do. I introduced my friend and asked if she need someone to dance with. Well I didn’t Really ask. I sort of told her too lol. I Said"Hey your are so and sos sister right? Whats your name? Oh sounds foreign. Here dance with my Bud.". Then they danced. Having not danced for awhile, I began to sweat and my muscles started to ache. I danced with the girl for a good 45 mins before I moved on. Overall good time with her. No noticeable affects.

Having a another guy along is more of a hinderance then a help for me. When I am alone, I can work my game without making sure my guy is taken care of. I usually have to find dances for both of us. But he manned up today and started talking with this cute brunette out of no where. The next thing Ik they were at it. He had a good night all I am gonna say. I ended up finding a decent brunette. Again I am rusty so bear with me. She was prob a 9 or 9.5. Nothing to major. I was gaming easy girls tonight. Not the lioness Alpha Babes. I had 1 noticeable hit from a girl that was a DIHL look. I was dancing with this girl and then a blonde locked eyes with me and I smiled and she just stared. Then She looked down. Then back to me. Caught her looking 4 or 5 times. Didnt persue her though. She was with another guy and she was only prob a 8 or a 9. Not worth my time. Go big or go home right? No close and kisses tonight. Only 4 numbers tonight. Nothing special.

Oh and I did use P83 2 shots to the each wrist. Idk. Some girl licked my chest and lifted up my shirt and rubbed my abs. She wasn’t worth my time though only a 8. Might persue the blonde further Idk. But overall good night.

Little rusty.

On a side note, didn’t get to bboy today. Ankles still fucked up from yesterday. Turned it in a game of pick up 3 on 3. So I only stayed for 3 hrs total.

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**Author:** ![CBusinesstime](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cbusinesstime/32/1746_2.png) [@CBusinesstime](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CBusinesstime)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 12:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jabezs-prayer-to-become-a-better-pua/49175/2 "2011-03-06T12:26:15Z")

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> [@Jabez](#):
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> Again I am rusty so bear with me. She was prob a 9 or 9.5. Nothing to major. I was gaming easy girls tonight.

> [@Jabez](#):
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> She was with another guy and she was only prob a 8 or a 9. Not worth my time. Go big or go home right? No close and kisses tonight. Only 4 numbers tonight. Nothing special.

> [@Jabez](#):
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> Oh and I did use P83 2 shots to the each wrist. Idk. Some girl licked my chest and lifted up my shirt and rubbed my abs. She wasn’t worth my time though only a 8.
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> Little rusty.

You say this so nonchalantly when getting some major kino..haha. you must have sweet ass game..If this is nothing too major, you must go crazy on em babes. You sly dog, you!..Good to hear you starting a journal btw!

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**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 3:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jabezs-prayer-to-become-a-better-pua/49175/3 "2011-03-06T15:38:38Z")

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Yah I have decent game. In clubs I am really good like pick ups are no prob. I just walk up to a girl that I find attractive, “hey whats your name?” “Tells me” “Looks like you need someone to dance with.” Girl says yah usually. Make sure to smile and then I take her by the hand and twirl her around usually. Then say " you look like you can move, Show me what you got." Then start dancing. Slow kino. Move hands from hips to either up or to her hands which ever she accepts first. Then lock fingers and pull her in tight. Dance for a good 2 or 3 songs then say. “Oh I gotta find my buddy he needs to borrow my phone” Or something corny like that. Sometimes she will want to meet him. The I lead her by the hand and take the lead. Just basic stuff man. Just read some things by Carlos Xuma, Christian Hudson, David Deangelo, and Race.

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**Author:** ![jnoel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jnoel/32/650_2.png) [@jnoel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jnoel)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2011, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jabezs-prayer-to-become-a-better-pua/49175/4 "2011-03-07T05:25:59Z")

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wtf dude youre a monster

everything is so nonchalant for you it sounds unreal. is your scale out of 10? cus i figured a 9-9.5 would be pretty good for anyone.

i have trouble going to clubs by myself, i get self conscious too easily. ive reall only started going to clubs since new years so its a bit new to me, and i love to converse so the loud music makes it difficult

your kino seems really confident too. ive lost a bit of my touch cus i used too much at work and got in trouble a few times.

good job man, 4 numbers really isnt too bad at all

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**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2011, 9:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jabezs-prayer-to-become-a-better-pua/49175/5 "2011-03-07T21:40:42Z")

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Yah , it is Jnoel. Dude your kidding right? I would kill to have a set of teeth like yours man. So white dude. Mine are ok but. I just do what I feel man. Have the cannot lose  
Me I don’t care about the outcome of a situation. if she doesn’t come with me oh well. there are 7 billion people on this planet. Will be also be more women. Gotta understand my dad raised me to be a player basically. Ever since I’ve grown up I have done this sorta thing .

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**Author:** ![jnoel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jnoel/32/650_2.png) [@jnoel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jnoel)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 8:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jabezs-prayer-to-become-a-better-pua/49175/6 "2011-03-08T20:23:11Z")

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ill definitely start smiling more whereever i go. spaceland makes it impossible to stop smiling. i never smoked or drank coffee, so mine stay white. i just left a gas station where the attendant said i had a “pretty smile” lol i should listen to more positive compliments and ignore the negative ones

i get one-itis to quickly, dunno why, i just always have. its great your dad raised you like that. my parents are really strict christians. my dad doesnt like me listening to christian rock -\_-.

i was raised to stay indoors a lot and rarely socialized otherwise. im glad i at least developed a good personality, and i can build rapport in my sleep. my confidence is the thing i need the most work on

but hey im not really complaining, we gotta play with the hand were dealt. im really looking forward to more of your journal man, great read just from the first post. ill make sure to check out some carlos xuma stuff

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**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jabezs-prayer-to-become-a-better-pua/49175/7 "2011-03-08T23:26:11Z")

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Jnoel yours is good too. I just need to get back in shape. Used to have a 38 vert jump. Dunked easily now I only got 30

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 12:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jabezs-prayer-to-become-a-better-pua/49175/8 "2011-03-09T00:29:05Z")

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I have found that Listerine whitening stuff 4X right before you brush every day works wonders on your teeth. Your game sounds tight dude. LOL, only an 8!

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**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 7:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jabezs-prayer-to-become-a-better-pua/49175/9 "2011-03-09T07:21:00Z")

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I have tight club game but my day game and other game blows chunks. Idk I j ust have problems opening women in a non club setting. My game is more suites to get lays ad have fun, then monogamy and LTRS. personally I don’t believe in LTRs. I have never had 1 last longer then a month lol. there will always be a girl with a better personality,smarter,prettier, hotter then the next. So call me shallow but idk. I do respect the guys that can make LTRs work. And Steve Ty for the tip on te teeth my friend. you my friend have monsterous game from reading your journal lol. But time for this guy to call it a night. See ya on the otherwise of the day. PZ

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**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2011, 3:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jabezs-prayer-to-become-a-better-pua/49175/10 "2011-03-12T15:07:20Z")

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Ammo + IS combo. I have finally started using this combo consistently. Don’t know my sweet spot yet but dose I have Ben using is 2 shots of mmo to the chest and 2 shots of IS to the chest. Self affects seems like I have a more of a IDC how this turns out attitude. Similar to spaceland one might say. Noticeable affects on others. People sem to laugh a hell of a lot more then normally when I am wearing it. I mean I am kinda of funny but like people laugh like I am Adam Sandler or someone when I was wearing this mix. Definitely made me feel like the life of the party and a rockstar. Might test it out again tonight, going to see Battle LA tonight.

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**Author:** ![jnoel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jnoel/32/650_2.png) [@jnoel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jnoel)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2011, 7:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jabezs-prayer-to-become-a-better-pua/49175/11 "2011-03-12T19:19:09Z")

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i have tried the ammo + IS mix before, but i usually do IS 1s to the face and one to the back of the neck. ammo i prefer to the neck, but ill experiment with other app spots

i cant really compare the feeling i got to spaceland, personally i felt more hyped than high. i think i mixed other stuff too. i will definitely try it again. on spaceland i laugh at everything, i laugh at me laughing. On IS im like spongebob in the morning, im ready eddie eddie

if you get people laughing during battle LA then its definitely IS, it doesnt look like a comedy movie.

do you prefer ammo to the chest or neck?

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**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2011, 11:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jabezs-prayer-to-become-a-better-pua/49175/12 "2011-03-15T23:39:50Z")

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Both 1x to chest 1x to neck

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**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 7:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jabezs-prayer-to-become-a-better-pua/49175/13 "2011-03-22T07:53:33Z")

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Also sometimes 1 spray to the hand and then I rub it in my hair.

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**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jabezs-prayer-to-become-a-better-pua/49175/14 "2011-05-22T19:15:31Z")

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Friday was a hell of a good time. So after work I headed out to a local park, my friends and I had a cookout and get together celebrating my buddie TKs little brothers Birthday. So before I get there I put 2x of IS to the chest and 2X ammo. I get there and everyone is already just chilling. I roll up blaring beautiful by Eminem. Sound system going. Being that I was the only white guy there I had a little advantage. It seems that Asian girls respond well to value and money. But I get there and turn off my car. Everyone is looking,there were a couple cuties nothing to hot though. My friend said if I came out he would drive his EF Hatch. I have only ridden with him once. Well I get out and he says told you I would drive. He asks me if I wanna go for a ride I say hell yah. So. My 3 buddies Toua, Meng, and Ze hop into the back. He floors it and the VTech kicks hard then the boost goes and I am stuck in my seat. He’s like pretty nice huh? I say heck ya and he says that was only low boost. He flips the high boost switch. And then he stops and we are going like 85 mph in like 4 seconds. Then we hit a stop sign. Long story short we roll around then we head back. We get out and everyone is looking mengs sister comes and gives me a big hug, she says I smell sooo good. We ended up talking and she gave me her new number. All in all I got a little color and had a great time. More reports to come soon.

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**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jabezs-prayer-to-become-a-better-pua/49175/15 "2011-05-30T17:13:28Z")

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Hell of Night last Night!! So, I finally got my friend to come to the club with me. He was all scared, I told him dude girls arnt scare fucking big foot and the Lockness monster are scary. So without further ado here it goes. We arrived at the club around 8 we chilled in the parking lot for at least a good 9 minutes. My base mix was Ammo X1 to the chest and 1 to the hand, then I rubbed it into my hair, then I sprayed 1 shot of IS to chest, then 1 shot of P83 at 12 Mgs, and then once spray of Spaceland to the Abdominals, and finally covered it all with Dirty English by Juicy Couture,(fucking love the cologne) 2 sprays. Initial application of all the Mones and Cologne smelled really strong, dried down after about 30 minutes, tonight I wore just a black T from wally world and a pair of jeans from AX,and my nike Cortez with the Red Nike Swoosh, and Red Laces. My buddy just wore 2 sprays of IS. My other friend that we met there wore 2 sprays of my Stud Hormonal Essence Cologne. We walk in and within 2 minutes I find my other friend, he’s dancing with his girl, He introduces,us to these two girls 1 a blonde and 1 a brunette. I took the blonde. I ask her to dance and she says okay. I start dancing with her and see my friend Chris has yet to start dancing with anybody so I ask the brunette to dance with my buddy( he cannot dance) I tell her to be nice and please teach him to move to the beat and be nice if he fucks up. She smiles and laughs. Both girls were ok. His brunette was a solid 9 and my blonde was a 7 or 8 tops, killer body but not the best face. I ended up stick with the blonde for a good hour then I had to take a break, she dragged me out to dancefloor and we grinded and got hot and heavy fast, my boy chris on the other hand, did not even attempt to get close and dirty with his girl, I mean he is shy, after like 4 hrs he finally closed all the space in between them. Next time he is getting the not so hot girl. I took a bullet for him. He better appreciate it. My other friend ended up getting my good buddies girl friends, friend, I was hopping he wouldve found his own girl, but he’s a really nice guy and he couldn’t turn it down, so he got thrown under a bus, I wouldve hooked him up but he has solid game so I figured he wouldve found his own girl. Oo well, All in all not a bad night, I didn’t kiss close or Number close mine, even though she kept putting my hands on her boobs probably could’ve closed her in the bathroom, I only pull girls to the bath room that are at least 9s, call me shallow or call me a pig I don’t care. I have high standards for what my other head sees.Chris failed to number close the 9 so I did and gave it to him. What would my friends do with out me?? Just stand there the whole time that’s what!! More reports to come soon, about to Order a full size TUTH and IJ. So I will be reporting back on those. Until then I am out. Signing off,Jabez

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**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2011, 4:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jabezs-prayer-to-become-a-better-pua/49175/16 "2011-05-31T04:24:10Z")

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you are a beast bro…  
would you mind sharing with us names of specific PUA books that helped you?

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**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jabezs-prayer-to-become-a-better-pua/49175/17 "2011-06-17T15:29:55Z")

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For the most part I have not read any books or anything. Everything that I know I learned from my dad and friends. I just started recently reading PUA material. I don’t really know any specific PUA books. I have never really paid for any material regarding picking up girls. Every man has the skills hard wired into his DNA. All you have to remember about being good with woman is. The secret to being good with girls is to know that you already are. I mean I have a friend who is more buff then me, better looking and tanner then me but he is self conscious and insecure. So he suffers. But as far as material I have been reading recently I started to listening to pod casts by Player Supreme and Bobby Rio. Race De Priest and Christian Hudson also have some good things. But all you really need is to make sure that you are groomed and the best most confident version of yourself that you can be. Don’t put any woman on a Pedestal they are nothing more and nothing less then equals. They don’t deserve any better treatment then you do. Give them a hard time, bust their balls, tease them. Find the fine line between being alpha and being an ass hole.

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**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2011, 6:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jabezs-prayer-to-become-a-better-pua/49175/18 "2011-07-13T18:29:33Z")

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Just ordered my self some Jerk so I will start reporting on that once that gets here. Hopefully I get a couple little suprises with it 🙂

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**Author:** ![jnoel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jnoel/32/650_2.png) [@jnoel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jnoel)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 2:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jabezs-prayer-to-become-a-better-pua/49175/19 "2011-08-31T14:33:45Z")

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Bro youre gonna love IJ!

I see youre reading my journal right now, my trip to DR felt like I was you at times lol.

IJ is like the other side of the coin compared to tuth IMO. Tuth makes me more sexual and confident, and I wanna flirt and chase every cute girl. IJ givesmethe same confidence, but in an i dont give a shit kind of way

both work great for me, but i prefer IJ personally, I have to go grab a 30ml soon

I know the whole “what would my friends do without me” feeling. I have to light a fire under people asses some times

like the two times in DR I had to take a girl and throw her on my friends lap because he wasnt moving in enough

or teaching a noob kino (as awkward as that turned out)

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**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 3:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jabezs-prayer-to-become-a-better-pua/49175/20 "2011-08-31T15:20:44Z")

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Time for the first report in a awhile. Well last thursday was my first time to get to the club in about 2 months. Things have been crazy, between looking for another job and school starting last week. Least to say life is decent. So on thursday night I am good. Wore my new threads and absolutely killed it. Dark Jeans with a white T Shirt and a plaid button down. With a fresh pair of AF1s.White Lows. Well my friend that I usually go with was taking too long to get ready so I just left him, and picked up my other two buddies. We end up getting lost on the way there. Good time. Then we finally get there. I spray IJ 2X on my chest and ammo 1X and two sprays of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) that I snuck in in my sneaker 🙂. After we get through security we walk around the for a couple minutes. I attempt to open a set of 3 for my buddies, they end up bailing on me. It was dark so I couldn’t see what the girls looked like then the strobe came on and I figured out why they bailed. Like Chris brown says better with the lights off lol. Needless to say I end up getting shot down. Oh well you win some you lose some. The IJ made me say to them ah well fuck its your loss sluts. The best one out of the group ended up grabbing me by the arm. I turn around grab her hand and say get your hands off me skank you had your chance. My buddies and I split up I ended up finding this set of 3 girls two of them with guys and the 3rd by herself. I walk up and say your friend looks bored. With a big smile I end up putting out my hand and she takes it and we go and start dancing. For some reason I was really attracted to this girl. I couldn’t stop dancing with her. There was just something that made her stand out. I cannot put my finger on it, she might have been using mones lol. But needless to say I end up grinding with her for the rest of the night. Like the kind where you know you could pull em if you wanted to. After the club starts shutting down I start to walk away and she grabs my hand and says what’s you name? I managed to get all that done without even swinging a first name I tell her and she says you text? I said yes and give her number. She ends up txting me telling how much she wants to see me again and how she wishes I wouldve just taken to the bathroom or something and rocked her world. Needless to say I only danced with one girl but she basically rapped me on the dance floor lol.

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