# JDubs phero evaluations **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [January 20, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922 "2014-01-20T22:00:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/1 "2014-01-20T22:00:17Z")
**Index** Product Tests A1 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/878)…[part 2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/879) A314b - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/610) Ammo - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/158)…[part 2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/174) Charisma - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/889).. CTTM2 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/199)…[part 2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/200)…[part 3](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/201)…[part 4](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/208)…[part 5](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/209) Hunted - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/888)… IG - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/182)…[part 2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/185)…[part 3](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/194)…[part 4](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/195)…[part 5](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/196)…[part 6](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/210) IH - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/215) IS - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/107) is/a - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/869) is/b - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/852)…[part 2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/856) TUTH - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/90)…[part 2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/216)…[part 3](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/270)…[part 4](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/365)…[part 5](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/367) P77 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/746) P78 - P79 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/714) P81 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/797) P83 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/132) P86 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/790) P91 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/875) P93 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/836) P95 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/128)…[part 2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/144)…[part 3](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/146)…[part 4](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/150)…[part 5](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/151)…[part 6](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/162)…[part 7](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/165)…[part 8](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/177)…[part 9](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/186)…[part 10](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/242)…[part 11](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/250) P96 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/454) P97 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/630)…[part 2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/648)…[part 3](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/829) P102 -[part 0.5](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/65)…[part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/822) P107 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/763) P121 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/706) P125 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/859)…[part 2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/863) P127 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/686)…[part 2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/734) P131 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/305)…[part 2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/801)…[part 3](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/811) P133 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/631) P135 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/787) Androstenone - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/642) Androsterone - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/650) Alpha-Androstenol - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/653) Beta-Androstenol - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/830) Molecule A (TAA) - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/713)…[part 2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/842) Molecule C (TAC) - Molecule H (TAH) - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/874) Mx135 - Mx297 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/861) Mx300 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/862) Mix tests Ammo/p130 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/10) Ammo/p130/p102/IS - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/110) Ammo/p130/p102/IH/p95 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/129) Ammo/IH/TAC/p95 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/147) Ammo/p95 - p[art 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/148) TUTH/TAC/IH - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/112) TUTH/TAC/p83 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/120)…[part 2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/127)…**[part 3](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/131)**…[part 4](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/835) TUTH/TAC/p86/p96 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/828) TUTH/TAC/p86 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/824) TUTH/ammo/p130/p83 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/121) TAC/p95 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/145) TAC/IH/p95 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/152) Enone/eRone - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/860) ENone/eRone/Bnol/TAC - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/823) ENone/eRone/p97 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/833) ENone/TAC - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/839) ENone/TAC/P83 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/840) ENone/TAC/p86/IH - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/834) Respect1 - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/850) **Mix2 builds** [Mix2 + p77](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/749) [Mix2 + p81](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/794) [Mix2 + p93](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/793) [Mix2 + p97 + p131](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/754) [Mix2 + iL](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/756) Misc Hedione - [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/880)…[part 2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/883) Theory Over-washing and mix problems - [Post 530-535](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/532) Multivitamin/nutrition effects on [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/), etc. - [post 536-545](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/538) Cannabis usage reduces male sex hormones and pheromones - [post 555-563](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/557), and [579](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/582) Race Code - system to calculate mathematically pheromone usages and needs - post [593](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/597) and [608](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/613), 620 [male pheromone synthesis](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/635) human pheromone effects on animals [Part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/643)[Part 2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/651) Side notes [Thoughts on some Ps, instant lines, and experimones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/114) [Possible Putatives for women](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/816) Forum links [A1 guide](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668) [Pheromone mixing](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromone-mixing-for-dummies/37811) [The Great Hedione](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/revealed-the-aftershave-that-turns-women-on-guys-read-this/64168) [What are pheromones?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-are-pheromones-from-khan-academy/63525) [JdubNtime469 race code project - a journey to see how race affects pheromones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/project-jdubntime469-race-code/66601) [journal shortcuts](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-put-shortcuts-for-reports-on-your-journal/56980) Misc [My Essential Oil Mix](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/664) Continence effects of pheromone [part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/674)[part 2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/813) Dry tests \> ([JDubs phero evaluations - #844 by Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/844))…\> ([JDubs phero evaluations - #857 by Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/857))…\> ([JDubs phero evaluations - #871 by Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/871)) XX1 [Part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/841)…[part 2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/843)…[Part 3](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/848)…[Part 4](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/849) Mix 1 adventures [Part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/810) Mix 2 Part 1…[part 2](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/858) M-3 test [Part 1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/695) [Favorite mixes](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/159) [First post](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/815) [Mission taming miss shun](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/814) [More](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/867)… Washing mones [Here](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-way-to-wash-off-mones/52462) Worthy notes [1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/837)../ ([JDubs phero evaluations - #609 by Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/609))..[2 (mix1)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/868) …under constant construction ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2014, 10:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/2 "2014-01-20T22:08:13Z")
Oh, I also noticed that when I walked up to my dog, she became real timid.. Hmmm.. **EDIT** **I put my index in the place of my first post, to make sense of the following discussion, the first post is on page 81 post 809** ---
**Author:** ![bosstrapper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bosstrapper/32/2095_2.png) [@bosstrapper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosstrapper)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 3:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/3 "2014-01-21T03:21:13Z")
i noticed the same with women today after one spray of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) on (adam apple) they stuck staring at something but not me its like they r surprised by the scent, Strange ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/4 "2014-01-21T06:28:54Z")
Yeah, I tried real hard to notice where their attention was, without being obvious of course, and it seemed every woman was staring at something real hard. Mind you we were at a grocery store so you would expect people to be looking for things, but these women looked liked they didn’t know what they were looking for. I think I’ll try again another day to observe whether this was just a fluke. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 6:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/5 "2014-01-21T06:35:46Z")
So, after about 4 hours of having the initial spray on, I sprayed about three more times on my neck region because I was going to spend time with the mrs. and these are my observations… 3 spray neck region of ammo - wore about 20 minutes before interaction.. 1st thing I noticed is that she was a little more clingy. (Holding hands, holding each other close, etc.) and I liked this very much. Then when we were at an appropriate location, sex was offered, and it looked as though the desire for it was a bit heightened. Which I also liked. But… Lastly, there was one other effect, I didn’t care too much for. She didn’t seem to want to stop talking! I mean it interfered with getting the sex up and running. She seemed very interested in telling me everything that’s been going on.. Ergh Well those are my observations on my ammo usage. I think tomorrow I will be trying the p130 solo and will be updating with my results.. I’m thinking about delving into some TUTH because I want her animal sexuality.. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 9:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/6 "2014-01-21T09:07:37Z")
Just ordered some TUTH and am excited to test it out! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 10:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/7 "2014-01-21T10:15:29Z")
> [@Jdub](#): > > a bit heightened. Which I also liked. > But… > Lastly, there was one other effect, I didn’t care too much for. She didn’t seem to want to stop talking! I mean it interfered with getting the sex up and running. That will be the Alphanol in Ammo! 😃 It can unleash a torrent of drivel in some people - However, talk can be a very important part of getting horny ,so live with it. However, this is why I like the IH/IS combo so much - Its still happy/feelgood and eases conversation but the quality is usually a lot better/to the point. 😉 Try some with your TUTH - It will moderate it nicely and maybe promote the trusting/sharing “we can do anything” feeling that can get very interesting in bed. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 4:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/8 "2014-01-21T16:06:59Z")
Thanks mobocaster, Once again, solid information. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 4:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/9 "2014-01-21T16:18:36Z")
So I’m about to head to class and I haven’t got around to washing off the pheros from yesterday so it looks like I may still be leaking with some mones. I plan on spraying some more ammo and also some p130 and will be reporting back with results in a few hours or so.. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 5:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/10 "2014-01-21T17:28:31Z")
Alright I’m at class now and what I’ve observed so far is, after sparking up a mild conversation with an older lady, she became very friendly and open. I also got some hard stares from a Asian and a Mexican girl probably around 19 yrs old. I noticed a few other ladies that seemed interested in drawing their attention towards me.. This is with 1 spray ammo with some residue from yesterday and also 2 sprays p130.. Also I haven’t had a shower in about a day and a half, so I may wreak of natural pheros ATM.. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 5:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/11 "2014-01-21T17:51:11Z")
Yes - Due to breakdown, your Androstenone proportion in the mix could have risen higher - but th [P130](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p130/) will offset that somewhat. This could explain the reactions of the Asian/Mexican but for different reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 6:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/12 "2014-01-21T18:16:31Z")
Thanks mobo, What is meant by breakdown and offset? ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 6:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/13 "2014-01-21T18:22:20Z")
Also, I seem to be drawing attention to myself from others without saying or doing anything. It will be a quick subtle glance. By the way…the mixture of the to go ammo and to go p130 smell really good in my opinion! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/14 "2014-01-21T18:25:11Z")
Breakdown is what the pheros degrade to with time/bacterial action on the skin - very often it is Androstenone, whch will increase its proportion in the mix, especially if you have buildup - cary over from the day before, which will almost certainly mean more Androstenone as it is one of the more difficult to shift from the skin. Offset - You use one phero, usually a social or lighter-feeling phero like [P130](https://a314.com/product/p130/) to take the edge off the primary phero eg the sexual rawness/aggression of Androstenone or the stuffy/fuddy-duddy feel of Androsterone. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 6:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/15 "2014-01-21T18:26:51Z")
> [@Jdub](#): > > Also, I seem to be drawing attention to myself from others without saying or doing anything. It will be a quick subtle glance. Yes, this is a positive hit - Get used it it and catch them out occasionally for a good IOI! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 6:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/16 "2014-01-21T18:28:09Z")
Ok i see now. So does that mean when a phero breaks down through the process you mentioned, it will end up becoming Androstenone? Also, what is p130 supposed to do? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/17 "2014-01-21T19:06:23Z")
In many cases, yes but not all. As its a putative, you are supposed to tell us what you find [P130](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p130/) does for you, so I don’t want to derail your experience. Except that I find it a good one to complement overt Androstenone. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 7:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/18 "2014-01-21T19:55:50Z")
Ok. Yeah so one other thing I noticed is that with some women they look and as soon as I notice, they turn away in haste, while others will stare until I break it by looking away. I feel I need more test subjects in various other places as I usually get these results without pheros.. But maybe didn’t put much thought into being aware, yet the Mexican and Asian would look away as soon as I caught them, sometimes staring for a bit, but soon after they’d be back too looking. One thing that was prominent though is when they looked away in haste, they had that look of fear, as if I caught them doing something terrible. Dirty thoughts, perhaps? What I usually notice - without the help of pheros- is that women will tend to usually make eye contact with me and smile then look away casually…yet these women appeared to have seen a ghost… ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 8:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/19 "2014-01-21T20:02:15Z")
I also noticed that when talking to any females they seemed to be very submissive and meek and quite as if they were nervous to say something, these being the younger, while the older lady I mentioned was pursuing a continuous conversation with me. It was like one of those give an inch take a mile ordeals, where I spoke a little generously which turned into a much detailed presentation of her life. I would say this woman was in her late forties. I think I ought to spark up many more convos to get a better idea of what I’m dealing with. I pursaded though, that these pheros are taking a toll at some degree. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 11:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/20 "2014-01-21T23:09:01Z")
New update\* After about 6 hours from initial application of the ammo and p130, plus wreaking of all kinds of Androstenone (for various reasons), I decided to spray 1 of p130 before stopping by the grocery store. When I got to the store, I seemed to come off as more friendly I suppose. As I was walking, I saw a very pretty young white female who appeared to be around my age but dressed as if she was in her thirties (classy), slim build, very attractive. Upon approaching her, I made eye contact and so did she and she appeared to smile first. I think she even said hi. I did the same and walked passed her, us going in opposite directions. I went into an aisle where I was alone and she was probably about 7 aisles away from me. Shortly after, maybe less than a minute she walks into the aisle and goes right passed me with a sweet voice and smile, saying excuse me. She did grab some things from that aisle but I don’t think it was a coincidence that she happened to get to that aisle so fast. Shortly after she left the aisle, while I was still standing in nearly the same spot, I look out the aisle and see her looking at me in which this time she quickly looked away. I also made some eye contact with some other lady while holding a smile in which she asked how I was doing while walking away as if she wasn’t interested but she asked out of impulse or something. All in all I think that the p130 would be a great buffer and seems to make people more friendly. I think I really should go to some kind of venue where some real convo can be sparked, I find it a bit hard to read people when you’re just passing by and smiling. But since using pheromones I think I’ve found that it draws the test subjects closer to me whether consciously or subconsciously.. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922.md?page=2)