# JDubs phero evaluations

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [January 20, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922 "2014-01-20T22:00:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 11:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/21 "2014-01-21T23:15:45Z")

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> [@Jdub](#):
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> One thing that was prominent though is when they looked away in haste, they had that look of fear, as if I caught them doing something terrible. Dirty thoughts, perhaps? What I usually notice - without the help of pheros- is that women will tend to usually make eye contact with me and smile then look away casually…yet these women appeared to have seen a ghost…

And that unsurprisingly is called “Ghosting” - looks like too much none for them - Which is not unusual as younger/Asian women tend to do better on smaller doses of none and more socially balanced mixes compared to older.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 11:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/22 "2014-01-21T23:20:39Z")

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> [@Jdub](#):
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> One thing that was prominent though is when they looked away in haste, they had that look of fear, as if I caught them doing something terrible. Dirty thoughts, perhaps? What I usually notice - without the help of pheros- is that women will tend to usually make eye contact with me and smile then look away casually…yet these women appeared to have seen a ghost…

And that unsurprisingly is called “Ghosting” - looks like too much none for them - Which is not unusual as younger/Asian women tend to do better on smaller doses of none and more socially balanced mixes compared to older.

**However** - away from a daytime/work environment, you may well find that they will do much better with a more overt none signature, when they are more relaxed or enjoying themselves in a more uninhibited/fun/sexual environment like a club or a party - When the feelings run high and fun is being had, none becomes much more acceptable.

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/23 "2014-01-21T23:44:44Z")

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Oh so that’s what ghosting means,.. Haha  
After some trial with the p130 today, that whole ghosting affect seemed to have dissipated. Could this be why?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 11:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/24 "2014-01-21T23:51:33Z")

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Yes, very likely - One of the properties of [P130](https://a314.com/product/p130/) that I’ve always been very struck by is its ability to make surprisingly high doses of none much more acceptable to many more younger women than would normally respond well.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 11:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/25 "2014-01-21T23:58:19Z")

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> [@Jdub](#):
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> I also noticed that when talking to any females they seemed to be very submissive and meek and quite as if they were nervous to say something, these being the younger, while the older lady I mentioned was pursuing a continuous conversation with me.

Yes - this is a common reaction to A314, **especially** with younger women. Its not always good though - as they can find it too mature/serious/authoritative/fatherly etc. You would need to judge other signals that go along with it.

Equally, an older woman is much more likely to tune in positively to this kind of signature, esp with a sexual.

Another hint to take from this is that if a woman is cowed by an A314 sig, they may very well respond much better to a lighter social-based signature, [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) or IO/IS (with or without sexuals) in particular illustrate the opposite end of the spectrum.

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 11:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/26 "2014-01-21T23:58:34Z")

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Ok so does this still mean they are indeed affected by the high amount of NONE present or is it, in a sense, like a decreased amount of NONE in their perception?

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 11:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/27 "2014-01-21T23:59:50Z")

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Also, I have some TUTH coming in, should be tomorrow a.m. and I was thinking about trying it with some p130, just those two to see the effects.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 12:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/28 "2014-01-22T00:10:42Z")

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> [@Jdub](#):
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> Ok so does this still mean they are indeed affected by the high amount of NONE present or is it, in a sense, like a decreased amount of NONE in their perception?

No, they still have a strong sexual response but are much, much more likely to be comfortable and happy/open/receptive to being turned-on it around you. Which tends to lead to them wanting more, instead of recoiling/getting uncomfortable with it/you.

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 12:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/29 "2014-01-22T00:22:29Z")

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Wow ok great, because I think that’s exactly what I’m shooting for. I’m thinking I’ll wash off and start fresh tomorrow with TUTH and p130 so I can see how it does and post back with results.

I’m not sure what the ammo does essentially but I’m assuming it has an element of NONE so it’s sexual and something else, that gives comfortability, and another phero that works in some other way, maybe like IO or IH.. Am I way off base?

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 12:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/30 "2014-01-22T00:28:11Z")

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So I have another little hot date with the wifey.  
I guess I left some kind of effect on her from yesterday..? 🙂

I think I’m going to throw on 1 spray of p130 and report back with results later tonight.  
I’m hesitant to throw on my ammo because I don’t want my ear yapped. Too bad my TUTH isn’t here yet.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 12:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/31 "2014-01-22T00:28:29Z")

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It is a good idea to wash - Buildup is a useful technique to master but it helps a lot to get to know your dose range properly first, clean. Then you will have a much easier time managing it.

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 12:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/32 "2014-01-22T00:32:13Z")

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Awe see the thing is I believe I’m drenched in NONE and I don’t want to lose it because all I have is the ammo, and I’m very worried she’ll be talking up a storm again.

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 4:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/33 "2014-01-22T04:49:52Z")

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Alright so here’s tonight’s results\*

After not showering for about a day and a half and having sprays of ammo on from last night and this morning and then p130. (The amounts would need to be referred to previous posts)… I spent some time with the mrs.

First off I think the NONE definitely shown in her desire which seemed more than yesterday. (Awesome). Secondly, I noticed she did seem to want to talk, but not as much as yesterday. (Awesome). Lastly, I think the p130 helped take the edge off from the NONE, thus making her feel more comfortable. (Awesome again). The sex was great and many orgasms seems to always be a plus!! 🙂

I think I’ll finally wash off tonight and do straight TUTH and p130 tomorrow and see my results wherever possible..

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 6:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/34 "2014-01-22T18:48:18Z")

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Woohoo!! I just got my TUTH and a side of p102!!  
Thanks for the gift, super fast shipping, and all the other perks!!

So I washed pretty thoroughly last night and here’s to a new day of trials and tests.  
I don’t think I’ll be exposed to a specific sexual situation today so I’m thinking about throwing some TUTH w/ some p130 to see how that goes in a regular interactive situation..

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/35 "2014-01-22T23:12:43Z")

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I just sprayed 2 sprays TUTH (I don’t know the mcg on that ((50mcg?))), 3 sprays p130 (15mcg), and 2 sprays p102 (10mcg), and I plan on going out in public to test it out.  
I guess I just realized, the to-gos spray less..oops, well let’s see what happens..

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 11:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/36 "2014-01-22T23:16:02Z")

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Oh wait maybe I was wrong. Does the recommended TUTH spray have 2.5 mcg or 25 mcg.?  
I thought I read it was 25..but it says 2.5..  
Also the sprays are much bigger than the to-gos. I’m confused..?

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 12:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/37 "2014-01-23T00:03:30Z")

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Very interesting. I didn’t seem to get any hits, but people didn’t seem to be put off by me at all. I did notice however, that some guys seemed to gather fairly close to me while I was standing in line.

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**Author:** ![Brian\_F](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/brian_f/32/1573_2.png) [@Brian\_F](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Brian_F)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 2:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/38 "2014-01-23T02:00:53Z")

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> [@Jdub](#):
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> Oh wait maybe I was wrong. Does the recommended TUTH spray have 2.5 mcg or 25 mcg.?  
> I thought I read it was 25..but it says 2.5..  
> Also the sprays are much bigger than the to-gos. I’m confused..?

2.5 mcg. 25 mcg is probably some sort of radioactive event and we’ll need to call in the bomb squad to decontaminate you.

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 2:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/39 "2014-01-23T02:27:51Z")

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Haha ok..  
Well, by the way, I added 1 more spray TUTH and 1 more p130 because I’m with the mrs. now.  
So far, she’s not so talkative and looks kind of zoned out. I think it may have been overkill. Hmm should I add some more putative or just see how it goes.

In case you don’t know, I put on 2 sprays TUTH, 3 sprays p102, and 2 sprays p130 about 3.5 hours ago..

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 2:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/40 "2014-01-23T02:32:09Z")

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There was a typo..  
It’s 3 sprays p130  
2 sprays p102

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