# JDubs phero evaluations **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [January 20, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922 "2014-01-20T22:00:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 1:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/403 "2015-12-09T01:57:55Z")
2 sprays TUTH 2.5mcg each 2 sprays TAC 10mcg each 3 sprays 25% hedione 1 spray ADG 1 spray cool waters Sprayed on after shower same places as usual. Sprayed on at 9:30 9:50 At work my boss (50s white brunette) was ditsy again, misspelling and misreading words. 1:28pm So other than that just a few hits, not as much as normal. I think it has to do with me incorporating a new HIIT exercise earlier this morning at the gym. I recently read that HIIT boosts your testosterone levels by a lot.. I’ve only done it twice.. Maybe it’s not. I will have to keep my eye on things. I can’t think of anything else it could be though. 6:00 pm The day was a dud. Not really any hits. Even my coworkers were standoffish and not too many people found my comments and jokes humorous as they usually would. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 2:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/404 "2015-12-09T02:00:58Z")
Wow those are very good results. I’m going to have to try that mix. ---
**Author:** ![von\_phero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e8c25b/32.png) [@von\_phero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/von_phero)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 2:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/405 "2015-12-09T02:17:32Z")
Do you expect that hedione is still buffering the tuth at 6pm? I know the tac wouldn’t be.. That’s the standoffishness which I am used to. Have you spent a day with a male friend with this mix on and did he get standoffish or aggressive at any point… ? ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 2:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/406 "2015-12-09T02:34:41Z")
Also, I had ginkgo today.. And due to my research this also increases test.. I got to really stop adding new things to my life! Haha ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 2:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/407 "2015-12-09T02:36:15Z")
> [@von\_phero](#): > > Do you expect that hedione is still buffering the tuth at 6pm? I know the tac wouldn’t be.. That’s the standoffishness which I am used to. Have you spent a day with a male friend with this mix on and did he get standoffish or aggressive at any point… ? Actually it wasn’t the males that were different only females that were standoffish. I’m certain that this mix will last well passed 6pm. I expect it to be good for at least 24 hours. I can still smell the Hedione on myself. When my results get skewed I has to do with my lifestyle or diet.. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 2:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/408 "2015-12-09T02:54:37Z")
I’m wondering if it may be beneficial to get my test levels tested so if in the future this mix ceases to work as well, I can do what’s necessary to increase it again. ---
**Author:** ![von\_phero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e8c25b/32.png) [@von\_phero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/von_phero)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 11:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/409 "2015-12-09T11:21:37Z")
Interesting point. That’s why I pretty much dropped enone all together as I produce varying amounts and after half an hr of dancing/exercise well my natural supply would be sweating out. Plus I am very hairy… Surely any natural enone also binds to hair similarly… I found with enone on me after the buffers go you’re undoubtedly going to piss people off starting with your male friends and young females.. It rears it head at some point. Also a gingko fan but ginseng wins hands down,especially indian ginseng. That tac wont last 24hrs for sure… Maybe hedione is the ultimate buffer timewise. I get looks and reactions similar to dihls without using any enone and am trying to formulate a safer mix for myself. Good to see you keep testing this mix, attempting a pick up in a bar etc would be nice to read… I cant wait to try mx297 plus adg again, I want to see if those results are repeatable.. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 4:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/410 "2015-12-09T16:23:11Z")
Yeah I think I’ve read from mobocaster that the TAC will be broken down and won’t last 24 hours, but for some reason I get the exact same results (sometimes better) by the next day.. I definitely want to try a club scene or anywhere where women are already disinhibited. ---
**Author:** ![von\_phero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e8c25b/32.png) [@von\_phero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/von_phero)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 6:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/411 "2015-12-09T18:01:07Z")
Tac really wont do much past 5 hrs.Next day hits are a different thing all together I think. If you don’t wash they meld with your own sweat/chemistry creating an extra special new sig.. Natural cops are good for this. Please take this into a club! I think it may lack a social tho. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/412 "2015-12-09T18:07:58Z")
I agree about the lack of social.. I’m thinking justintime has that part down with the p131. I’ll have to try that one probably. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 6:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/413 "2015-12-09T18:12:55Z")
Hey justintime… How long would you say the effects of the mix with p131 lasted? ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/414 "2015-12-09T18:24:34Z")
The P131 last around 5 hours solid and then I still have lesser effects for to about 6 hours. I have do a refresh about 6 hours. Yeah the P131 seems to add a social side and seems to kind of let everyone know hey this person is alright. That is the vibe I get from people with this molecule added. Kind of like how dogs can sense things weather or not someone is a threat or not. With this on I think it works very well with the TAC also. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 12:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/415 "2015-12-10T00:37:30Z")
2 sprays TUTH 2.5mcg each 2 sprays TAC 10mcg each 3 sprays 25% hedione 1 spray ADG 1 spray cool waters Sprayed on after shower same places as usual. Sprayed at 9:20am Went to store.. Saw about 6-8 white women 30s + About 3-4 locked eye contact and 2 were Dihl.. 1 asked me to grab something up high for her. She didn’t seem to be hesitant to ask me for help.. So far it looks like I’m gaining it back. It’s amazing what can happen from a small dietary change. 9:45 I also seem to get the good friendliness effects from my coworkers. Nobody seems standoffish. 10:00am Blonde 50s white woman comes into my work and locks Dihl with me and asks how I am and smiles. 11:00am I walk out of my job to head to the store to get some water and as I leave a brunette white 30s female Dihl with me and asks how I am doing.. We smile together. At the store I get about 80-90% looks from the women with about 75% of them Dihl. Also, my male coworker was very friendly. So far, all day today I’ve been getting a good amount if looks, people have been very friendly with me, women are quick to say hello, men are respectful and friendly, and I feel great.. I’ve been able to think clearly and easily voice my opinion.. I’d say these results are at about 85-90% of what I would expect from this mix. I’m convinced it was a dietary issue and as time passes for my natural sig to come back, the effects get better.. 11:20 As I walk back in my work, and heads towards the back a tall black hair white woman 30s pushing her baby locks Dihl with me and smiles immediately like we had an inside joke moment and for some reason I chuckled. When I head back to the front there is a tall 6 foot slim 20s white blonde being helped by an associate.. I come up from behind hoping my scent will cause her to turn around and look at me but she doesn’t.. So I walk in her field of view and she begins to look at me.. Shortly after she can’t seem to keep her eyes off me.. I notice her looking at me over and over again. Got some more nice looks and eye contact from some more white women. None of the Asian women are affected. 12:00 Wow! So not many women seemed to Dihl lately but every time I look at someone or out myself in their field of view, they look at me strongly and immediately smile. This one dark hair white women early thirties just gave me the cutest smile ever.. As if to figuratively say ‘oh well’. It was a very nice smile, with a bit if a sigh.. Very cute. 12:43 pm Sprayed: 2 sprays Togo p131 5mcg each just on either side of Adam’s apple. 1:00pm WOW! Things just got tremendously better. Now all of a sudden nearly all the women of all ages and races are Dihl with me or looking my way.. An 50s black male coworker of mine just walked up to me and had quite a long a nice conversation with me.. I feel a burst of happiness and life myself.. Then… A brunette 20s white female starts walking in my direction.. As she sees me she locks Dihl and smiles big and immediately gives off a sweet and soft laugh as if in that very moment we had our mental facilities speak to each other and I told her a witty joke while simultaneously telling her she’s beautiful..!! What’s up with these females smiling and laughing?? This is a new one for sure! 1:20pm Headed to store where I bought the water earlier and I didn’t get much of anything. A little bit of eye contact but that’s all. 1:45pm Back at work, walking around women are checking me out. As I pass this cute slim black hair 20s white female we lock eyes and smile at each other. 1:50pm My boss walks out to go somewhere and she always flirts with me when I have mones on (50s white, married). She just called me papa. Hmmm.. 3:30pm Not much results anymore if any.. (I did have a muscle milk drink though which has 20% DV vit E and zinc.. These May have contributed to a difference in test -\> leading to a different sig.. Or it may just be the test itself (I’ve read some info saying women are attracted to the smell of testosterone or something like that).) 4:15pm The effects are non existent and even me myself, I feel pretty down. Not so happy and chipper anymore. Crash? ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 1:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/416 "2015-12-10T01:17:19Z")
Curious. Would you get similar results without ADG and CW (hedione only plus TAC/TUTH)? ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 1:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/417 "2015-12-10T01:33:56Z")
That’s a good question. If you’re talking about my mix.. Then yes. Back in June was when I got my bottle of ADG since not having it for about a year and I had gotten the usual results I get without it. I can’t remember when I started wearing CW but it was sometime this year and when I discovered my special mix about 2 years ago I didn’t wear cool waters back then, just ADG. So I’m pretty sure I’d get the same results. Also, I have some stuff in my log from about a couple weeks ago without ADG and CW. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/418 "2015-12-11T01:20:16Z")
2 sprays TUTH 2.5mcg each 2 sprays TAC 10mcg each 3 sprays 25% hedione 1 spray ADG 1 spray cool waters Sprayed on after shower same places as usual. Sprayed at 9:20am At work people were really friendly and respectful, my lady boss also was extra friendly and flirty with me. 11:00am Walked into in and out burger to use the restroom and on my way out a white lady in her 60-70s dihl with me and a white blonde 20-30s did also.. 12:00pm 2 sprays CTTM2 1x Adam’s apple. 12:30 Nothing seems to be happening.. Almost seems to appear to be like ghosting. No hits that I can say. 1:00pm Added 1 more spray of CTTM2 1x 1:15pm The effects have given me a better mood.. More cheerful and light. This seemed to wear off after about 5 minutes. Also no one seems to be affected. No one is talking to me and the dihl has ceased.. 2:45pm Nothing worth noting. No hits or anything. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 5:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/419 "2015-12-11T17:20:37Z")
I think the CTTM2 was a dud for this mix for me.. I believed I tried it also earlier this year and noted it in my log, but I don’t recall the results being too astonishing then either. The P131 seemed to be pretty good but I think the after it wore off I got a bit of a crash and somewhat depression. I’m thinking my hope will be in IH and/or IG. IG always seems to work wonders for me in the proper dosage. Plus it leaves me feeling great. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 5:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/420 "2015-12-11T17:25:31Z")
On a side note… I recall two years ago trying to play with socials with this mix, I think namely p95, and in order for me to get some good results I had to double the dose of TUTH/TAC.. Perhaps there was way too much softening of the TUTH/TAC from the P. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 5:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/421 "2015-12-11T17:44:27Z")
> [@Jdub](#): > > …Test A.60…]]] > > 2 sprays tuth > 2 sprays tac > 1 spray ammo > 2 sprays p102 > 1 spray p95 > 1 spray IH > > All on neck.. > > Went to class. Felt pretty good. People were friendly. Nothing too big happening, but the shy girl that’s been opening up to me…well..opened up. We got into a deep intimate discussion and let’s just say personal things were revealed. > It felt pretty awesome. We hardly know each other and only have small talk usually. But not today. It felt like there definitely was a close bond. Almost scary close. I felt I could have directed the situation in almost any direction I felt like. It was like picking a lock, but with ease..because I had a lock pick tool. 😉 she talked about certain things and I could tell she was trying to hold back information but as the conversation progressed she subtly added more and more to the particular subject until I she let it out. > > Wow. Ok about 9 hours from initial sprays.. > I walked into a group of African American women, all of which are attractive, and they all appeared to be borderline dihl. > This was actually quite awkward. There I am by myself looking at them and having a short and sweet conversation and I feel about 10-12 eyes staring back at me. But these looks were like a look of desire or intrigue. Not just glances. Since I never been in a situation like this nor saw it coming, I cowardly walked off uncomfortably.. But rushed to my phone to jot this down. 😉 Ok so I just want to resurrect some major hits I got and put them in order so I digging through my log won’t be needed.. For this one, I would like to add some detail and clarify.. (I don’t know why I didn’t back then) So on this particular day I was chatting it up with a fellow classmate (initiated by myself). She is/was: ~24 years old Mexican (but looked white) Black hair Petite body Very beautiful Quiet, reserved About 5’3" Borderline gothic (tattoos, dark clothes, makeup) We’ve chatted before and my mones always seemed to have affected her, but on this particular day I approached her to talk and see how the mones would work. We had a nice discussion, asking each other about school and family and relationships. But when we got to relationships the magic started.. When I had told her I was going through a separation she kept inquiring if I was going to try to go back with my woman. Eventually she started talking about her issues with her boyfriend.. Now here’s the kicker. Granted, we weren’t really friends or anything, only spoke shortly a couple of times. She was telling me how she was having issues with her boyfriend and I was consoling but by no means was trying to get her to say what the issue was.. Then she flat out said “I can be honest with you”. This was when I was first testing out IH and was shocked to hear her say those exact words! Then she proceeds to tell me how her boyfriend doesn’t like to have sex or he isn’t really interested in it.. Then she tells me how much she wants to have sex and how he’s just not giving it to her. Again, I consoled. And that’s how the conversation pretty much went from there. Now if you could have been there, or in my shoes, I think you could agree that she seemed to come on to me. At the time I wasn’t in the mindset to try anything with her. (Wish I did) Later that evening, I went to my kids school. On the way into a certain classroom there stood about 5,6 maybe 7 black females (teachers) from light to dark skinned and 20s to 30s.. They were in a group chatting and facing the direction I was coming from. As soon as they saw me, they all DIHL.. Like it was crazy.. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2015, 5:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/422 "2015-12-11T17:45:52Z")
> [@Jdub](#): > > …test A.61…]]] > > 1.25 spray ammo split in half > 1 spray TaC > 1 spray IH > 3 spray p95 > > All on neck > > WTH!!!???!! > > This was a nuclear explosion of epic proportions!!! > > I call it “IL” or Instant Leader.. > > Seriously, I was just messing around and sprayed this all on my neck with no expectations, strictly experimental..and for fun. > > I go to class.. > Things start out like any other day..I do feel much happier and in a lighter mood. > The teacher lectures so there isn’t much hits happening, nor talking… > Then… As soon as teach stops.. > Girls start coming to me seeking help. > Even girls I never even spoken to before, from across the room. They came all the way just for my help. > I was hearing things like “thanks you’re awesome” & “you’re the best” etc. etc. with much over emphasis (not that I didn’t appreciate it).. > Girls would even return for my guidance a little bit later as well..Haha like as if I were the teacher, and it isn’t like our teacher is unapproachable! The teacher is very helpful and fun. > > I also noticed that as I walk near or past ladies elsewhere they were very friendly in saying excuse me or sorry (when I was trying to pass) > > This mix seemed to produce a great amount of attraction, trust, friendliness, openness, honesty, reverence, and compliments… I need to try this one again. Also, on a side note.. I wore Acqua di gio back then and so this one had a cologne with it AND hedione. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922.md?page=20) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922.md?page=22)