# JDubs phero evaluations

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [January 20, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922 "2014-01-20T22:00:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 2:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/524 "2016-02-14T14:45:32Z")

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What do you mean by ‘harder to dial in’?

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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 3:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/525 "2016-02-14T15:14:18Z")

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I mean trying to find the right balance of my Essential Oils and app spots so they support my pheromone mix and help lift the molecules off skin.

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2016, 7:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/526 "2016-02-21T19:48:47Z")

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You know justintime..  
I am really interested in concocting my own special unique essential oil mix.  
What helped you choose which essential oils to get?  
Do you get stuff that’s in colognes you like or get stuff that you just generally like the smell of? Or do you just mix up strictly experimental?  
I’m really interested in hearing how you go about your formulations.

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/527 "2016-02-21T19:59:49Z")

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So yesterday I wore my ‘mix 1’ w/ the usual sprays of colognes and hedione to an event and it hit hard as I’m used to it hitting.  
Everywhere women were just staring at me. Men were super respectful and friendly. I felt totally full of confidence. I felt really good.  
This mix is totally geared to my natural signature.

The day before I had some fun with a blonde w/ 2x ‘mix1’ w/ 3 sprays P96 2.5mcg each. This is my best mix when it comes to sex.

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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2016, 8:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/528 "2016-02-21T20:19:45Z")

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With my EO mix I am trying to find a balance of what works good still. I looked up what has aphrodisiac properties. Patchouli, Jasmine, Neroli, Orange, Rose, Ylang Ylang are the main ones I see with the best reviews. As far as formulas I have no where near got it right LOL.

I am actually going to make another test formula with no DPG in it. The Patchouli Dark I used is very strong and just over powers everything. I decided I will make a soap with this and Hedione because I feel this will be much better suited for that.

Instead of using any DPG I will use straight Hedione instead and some PA like 5 or maybe even 10%.

What I am trying to do is make like a cologne with a nice scent that also has some attracting qualities to it. My TFO3 works good all by itself but feel it is not dialed in at all.

I use it like A314 kind of to compliment my pheromones. The oil seems to really help my pheromones lift off my skin to and seems to bring my mone cloud to around 10 feet. This may change though because I will make a mix without the Patchouli. It is just to strong and overpowers anything.

This is all experimental and don’t quite know what I am doing and just having fun and am learning.

It is fairly cheap and don’t mind messing it up.

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**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 2:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/529 "2016-02-22T02:00:40Z")

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I remember reading elsewhere that the patchouli ratio must be very low in any mix to not give out that Woodstock-fest cloud. It’s very strong but smells nice. Maybe go for a drop or two in your mix. Then work up from there if need be. I say this because gals love patchouli. But you can just lose it altogether 🙂.

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 7:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/530 "2016-02-22T07:06:32Z")

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See now that’s what I’ve been thinking of doing. I really want something that will be unique and my own and will enhance the pheromones or compliment them.

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 7:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/531 "2016-02-22T07:10:49Z")

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So today I tried:

1 spray TUTH 2.5mcg  
1 spray TAC 10mcg  
1 spray P96 2.5mcg

2 sprays ADG, 3 The Beat, 3 hedione w/ some dabs.

After a good nights rest and the average things I eat.

What I noticed is this mix didn’t do what I would have expected, and by that I mean nothing really negative. No ghosting or anything like that. Self effects were I was in a good mood.  
Nothing really worth writing home about, but I did notice that a couple of times this one young (probably late teens) cute blonde was checking me out as I walked passed her in the fast food joint. Every time I walked passed she would make string eye contact. A couple other females seemed to be drawn to me a bit.  
It was a decent mix for me. Worth a shot.

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2016, 9:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/532 "2016-02-26T21:41:46Z")

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I’ve been theorizing something lately. ..

Usually when I shower I use a body wash with salicylic acid to scrub off all the mones completely. I’ll scrub the area and then rinse about 10 times to makes sure there are completely no more mones for when I apply again.  
What I’ve been noticing for the last week is that if I only scrub a few times maybe 2-4 times and limit my shower to about half as long, when I reapply, the mix will hit harder and better.

My theory is that only a few scrubs is adequate to remove the synthetics but perhaps once beyond this, I’m removing too many natural -mones and perhaps even some beneficial bacteria that aid in the process of converting the -mones.

In my mind it’s like a ‘sterile vs clean’ battle. You’d want to be clean but not sterilized, as in having absolutely no mones, bacteria or anything like that left on your body.  
My theory is totally subject to scrutiny, I may be way off base, but the actual practical application of said theory deems to be undeniably true to myself based on tests and observation.

I found in order to get the same effect I wouldn’t have to wait over an hour before reapplying after showering, for signature to ‘set’.. otherwise a shorter shower results in faster application time.

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**Post date:** [February 26, 2016, 10:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/533 "2016-02-26T22:19:00Z")

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What is supposed to be the purpose of salicylic acid? Is it an antibacterial?

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 4:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/534 "2016-02-27T16:09:44Z")

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Supposed to be anti-inflammatory. Mobocaster is the one who recommended it to me, perhaps he’d know more.

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 4:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/535 "2016-02-27T16:14:55Z")

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Salicylic acid?! I just realize that’s the same molecule from which Aspirin is produced, basically?? I suppose it makes sense that it’s an AF 🙂. So there exists a topical AF… Interesting for sure.

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 6:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/536 "2016-02-27T18:06:39Z")

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Yeah definitely interesting.  
I think it’s more of the excessive scrubbing that’s my issue and not the actual amount of salicylic acid being used. Like I’m just scrubbing off good bacteria.

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**Post date:** [February 27, 2016, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/537 "2016-02-27T18:59:06Z")

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It makes sense because normally, leftover SA should wash away down the drain when you rince it, so the bacteria issue makes sense. Or maybe scrubbing it hard before rinsing out causes some SA to be actually forced down inside the skin? Mmmm…

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**Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 3:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/538 "2016-03-11T03:39:26Z")

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3 - 10 - 16

So it seems no matter what I do I cannot add to my ‘mix 1’ (5 much TUTH, 20mcg TAC) without destroying its initial effects.

And I found that when taking supplements such as Vitamin E, Zinc, multivitamins, some ginsengs and other herbs it destroys the effects of my mix 1…

So I had an idea. What if I mixed the two? Taking supplements while adding to the mix.  
I noticed justintime says he does take a multivitamin or something and he can seem to add to the mix.

I believe the reasoning is that the vitamins make my testosterone and natural dig increase, perhaps having it to be too sexual in nature, so it would seem logical of that I added socials it would balance out.  
I took this idea and put it into practice:

Woke up after full nights rest.  
Last night took some vitamin E and zinc and this morning also when I woke up plus a multivitamin.  
Went to work with nothing but hedione sprayed on.  
Felt pretty good and work went by nicely.  
Went home and ate then went to next job..

Sprayed:  
MIX 1  
3 sprays P96 2.5mcg each  
3 sprays H  
2 sprays ADG  
3 sprays TB

Self effects:  
Awesome. I felt cool and confident. I had some energy supplements and this calmed me but still retained the energy.

Got to work but first stopped at my other job.

9:20am  
As I walk to around a 20s brunette sees me from afar (about 20 feet) and turns to get a good look at me.

I go talk to my boss (40s white female) and she is nice as usual but then I caught her giving me a really strong Dihl, to which she has never given me before.

Also when I walked passed a 50s white woman with a disabled child she smiles at me very friendly and as I try to pass her she doesn’t really budge much.

9:30 - 10:30 am

Walking passed many people and draw attention from 90+ percent of women to me, many of which were Dihl. White women, Hispanic, and Asian.

10:30 - 2:30

Everywhere I go, in stores and such, I’m drawing all sorts of Dihl. Exactly what I’d expect from just plain old mix 1.

I go to pick up my child from school and the ~19ish blonde white female who never seems to send me any signals or show interest said bye to my child and then looked at me, smiled and said bye to me.

I think this solves it. I will need to test further. But I’m feeling good about it.

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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 1:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/539 "2016-03-11T13:28:26Z")

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I have been using the same exact mix and have tried playing around with it for a long time.

I lately have had better luck with 1 spray Ammo 2X on throat, 1 spray Ammo 1X on back of neck, I layer 2.5MCG of TAC 1 spray each over Ammo for a total of 5MCG, then for work I will use 5MCG P74 and for outside work I use P96 instead or when I am around my wife more. Then I use 2 dabs pure Hedione 1 on jawline and 1 on wrists.

For some reason I have been getting way more attention from people with this setup including other women and is a good all around mix I can use in any setting.

Where your mix 1 is highly sexual.

Definitely overall health I think plays an important part to like sleep, and vitamins.

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/540 "2016-03-11T20:04:21Z")

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Yeah I noticed that with the Ammo in place of the TUTH it seems to draw more attention..  
But only 5mcg TAC?  
Hmm, that’s interesting.

Just out of curiosity, you do take a multivitamin, right?

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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 8:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/541 "2016-03-11T20:11:10Z")

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Yes I sure do here is the link in case you want to see what is in it.

[Mega Multiple for Men 90 Coated Caplets 1921 | Multivitamins | Piping Rock Health Products](http://www.pipingrock.com/multivitamins/mega-multiple-for-men-1921)

Yeah it is weird with 7.5MCG of None from the Ammo and I use a lot let TAC. I think because it is already buffered.

Now it isn’t over the top your Mix 1 has, but it does draw a little more attention though.

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/542 "2016-03-12T02:37:52Z")

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3 - 11 - 16  
Repeated same as yesterday, same diet, same colognes and -mones, etc.

Started my day off around noon

1:00pm  
Went to gas station and 40s Asian female clerk who usually calls me ‘honey’ or ‘baby’ seemed happy to see me and said have a nice day baby. As I’m exiting the building a black 20s male comes in and smiles at me and asks how I’m doing.

1:30pm  
Went to see this cute little number that I’ve been messing around with here and there.  
She certainly reacted very well. She was totally animalistic and into the sex. When I left she gave me a longer than usual hug and thanked me over and over. I was trying to leave but she kept hugging me. She’s a 35~ blonde white woman a little out of shape or rather disproportionate but still cute nonetheless. Orgasms also came nice and easy and fast.

Afterwards (about 2:00pmish) I went to McDonald’s drive thru and a 23~ blonde female seemed to have Dihl with me as she handed me my order.

3:30pm  
I pick up one of my children from their school and as I enter a 28~ brunette heavy set female looks at me and says hi with a big smile from about 10 ft down the hall. As I sign my child out she walks down closer to me and says hi again! Haha  
Then I head to my kids classroom to pick get them and two teachers (30s~ youthful looking attractive white women, blonde and brunette) light up and say hi to me. Good eye contact also. When we leave and are heading out, the female who kept saying hi said ‘bye and have a nice weekend’ giving me looks like she’s attracted to me. I’ve seen her many times before but never anything like this.

4:30pm  
At Walmart shopping I’m getting a lot of looks and the 20s brunette white female cashier is very friendly and smiles a lot.

I’m noticing my toddler is also in a very good and playful mood.

And my own self effects are great. Feeling really good and calm.

5:00pm  
Went to natural food store.  
As I’m entering a 30s brunette white females offers her cart to me and my baby as she leaves and is very friendly.  
As I walk around I’m getting many looks, smiles, and Dihl.  
One of the clerks (27ish white brunette) asks me if I need help with much friendliness and a nice smile.

All in all this way a very good sexual and a very good social all at the same time. Everybody was affected in a good way, attention was drawn to me, conversations were sparked (not by me) and it proved worthy in the bedroom.  
This was the best results I’ve probably had so far.  
It was exactly what I’ve been looking for. Women literally approach me and are friendly and start talking first. And when alone with a woman in the bedroom it gave superb sexual results. Even the mere fact that my toddler was all happy and giddy proves it worthy.  
Just goes to show the importance and efficacy of nutrition.

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**Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 3:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/543 "2016-03-12T03:45:26Z")

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So do you think the multiple had a big effect? I do find i am getting much better hits the last 4 or 5 years when i started eating better ans taking a male multiple vitamin. I think the key with a good multiple for men is one that supports prostaste and testosterone levels to. I am 36 now and find it more important than when i was 27.

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