# JDubs phero evaluations **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [January 20, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922 "2014-01-20T22:00:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 1:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/544 "2016-03-12T13:57:56Z")
I remember reading that taking multis when you already eat right is just overloading the liver and kidneys to eliminate them back from the body. That’s why I stopped taking some a few years ago. What’s your opinion on this, guys? ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 3:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/545 "2016-03-12T15:32:45Z")
You know if you do eat healthy enough you probably don’t need in reality. Like most sometimes life gets hectic and sometimes I don’t eat the best so I use one just to make sure my body get’s what it needs. So if you eat pretty well and healthy it probably isn’t needed. I will always take a few extra things like my Colostrum and a few others I notice a change if I don’t take it. I do think though it really is a complete thing with these pheromones and our goals. I mean you just can’t be a 600LB slob and spray these things on and expect results. Which I know is not the case for most here. I have found just being healthy and myself are even more important than my pheromone selection. It has taken me 10 years of hard work to open up and be who I really want to be. Sorry I get off topic, but if you do eat healthy enough you probably don’t need one. I like the idea for me of taking a Men’s multiple over a standard basic one. I do feel better with it because of my prostate and test levels. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/546 "2016-03-12T22:17:54Z")
> [@justintime469](#): > > So do you think the multiple had a big effect? I do find i am getting much better hits the last 4 or 5 years when i started eating better ans taking a male multiple vitamin. I think the key with a good multiple for men is one that supports prostaste and testosterone levels to. I am 36 now and find it more important than when i was 27. Oh definitely I believe it was the multi, I know zinc and Vitamin E play big rolls in male reproductive systems. Which will affect male hormones and pheromones. I’ve tried to steer clear of the multis because it killed my mix 1, but now (big thanks to you for testing my mix 1 with socials and reporting on diet) I can use my mix 1 with multis and herbals. I’ve always been a big nutrition guy and I was sort of disappointed when I couldn’t use my mix 1 while taking my usual supps. Now that appears to be a problem of the past! ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 10:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/547 "2016-03-12T22:26:17Z")
> [@Conjurator](#): > > I remember reading that taking multis when you already eat right is just overloading the liver and kidneys to eliminate them back from the body. That’s why I stopped taking some a few years ago. What’s your opinion on this, guys? Good point. My thoughts are you research the upper intake limit of said vitamin or mineral and make sure you never exceed or come close to it. In my case, I eat healthy but I’m quite sure I don’t get adequate amounts of vitamin E and Zinc (purposefully, due to its effects on the male reproductive system) to which my supplementation provides adequate amounts. In my case I don’t think I’m exceeding any and if so not by much. I certainly don’t encourage people to get more than daily values of vitamins and minerals. But also in my case it isn’t just multis, it is also ginseng, ginkgo, and many other herbals. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 10:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/548 "2016-03-12T22:38:29Z")
Every time I log in I forget to mention this but I’ve been wanting to for a long time… Whenever I wear TUTH and TAC, males around me will very often be very disinhibited in what they say. I have found that some of my coworkers will ‘talk about someone behind their back’ from even as only about 10 feet away from the person.. I find myself having to either walk away or redirect the topic. I’m not sure I’m seeing this with the addition of P96 though. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 1:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/549 "2016-03-13T13:41:26Z")
I just tried putting pure hedione in a Togo bottle and sprayed to sprays on my neck 1 left and 1 right. I waited 5 minutes and then spray [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) 2.5MCG a spray right over it. It turned out quite well layering like this. I am going to try again today. Have you tried anything like this and if so what is your thought on this? I have tried mixing this with PA and the alcohol smell came right threw so what I think I will do is either use pure or mix with only like 5% alcohol in a Togo bottle. I have set aside my EO mixes for now so I can work on some phero mixes and dial in my Hedione better. Thanks in advance buddy. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/550 "2016-03-13T18:28:40Z")
I hope I understand your question, please correct me if I don’t.. But I have never layered hedione with anything. I never really considered it to be a good idea. I do however, layer ADG over it sometimes because ADG has Hedione in it. Whether it’s a good idea or not, I haven’t got the slightest clue. I guess I can test to find out. It is quite surprising to me that you were able to spray it since its oil. I think I’ve tried spraying pure hedione when I fist got it. Don’t remember the results though. That’s interesting about the alcohol smell. I mix with ~70-75% PA and after a week or so the alcohol smell is basically gone and all I smell is that sweet aroma of hedione. Have you tried letting the Hedione/PA mix sit a good long while before using it? ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 6:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/551 "2016-03-13T18:38:42Z")
My personal experience with letting PA/Hedione mix sit for a long time is all alcohol evaporating out magically. No matter how much teflon I put on the bottle. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/552 "2016-03-13T19:17:37Z")
With it closed? ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/553 "2016-03-13T22:35:23Z")
Ok thanks for the info. Yes i can spray it, just comes out in a very wierd more of a stream pattern. I just had a lot of togo bottles so i thought i would try to spray. As for layering it seems to do ok and help my putatives diffuse nicely, but i will test more on it before i report ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 12:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/554 "2016-03-14T00:39:14Z")
> [@Jdub](#): > > With it closed? Yep, PA is worse than fricking Houdini! ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 11:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/555 "2016-05-02T23:43:59Z")
> [@Conjurator](#): > > Yep, PA is worse than fricking Houdini! That’s pretty crazy, can’t say I’ve seen anything like that happen before. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2016, 11:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/556 "2016-05-02T23:45:59Z")
> [@justintime469](#): > > Ok thanks for the info. Yes i can spray it, just comes out in a very wierd more of a stream pattern. I just had a lot of togo bottles so i thought i would try to spray. > > As for layering it seems to do ok and help my putatives diffuse nicely, but i will test more on it before i report Same here. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/557 "2016-05-04T18:56:18Z")
A quick update on life and -mones. I haven’t really been testing lately but every now and again I wear: 2 sprays TUTH 2.5mcg each 2 sprays TAC 10mcg each 3 sprays P96 5mcg each 2 sprays Hedione 25% 3 sprays the beat 2 sprays ADG My diet hasn’t changed since last mentioned.. So, things I’ve been noticing while wearing this: These gals I work with keep showing interest in me. Lately while at work (delivery driving) I wil interact with the public a lot. When I meet the people at their homes and bring them their deliveries, very often (and mostly with white women) the women will be very friendly with me. No space barrier and much hand in hand kino. Very much I’ve had them hand me things or when I hand them things they will basically always will touch my hand in some sort of way. Also one of my female coworkers, who has recently started showing a strong interest in me (because of this mix) flirted with me hard. One day she walked right into me with our bodies touching. The next day she asks to meet me somewhere secluded to make out (which we did). And then I message her and ask if she wants to hang out. Next thing I know we are getting real erotic and playful, long story short I finishing in her mouth. She’s a bit older Hispanic female. Maybe late 40s but really attractive. Also she seemed to have no issue not using a condom. She asked at first but she eventually caved with basically no effort on my part. She also seemed to refrain from the subject of bjs while messaging but in person she had no problem sucking hard. Also, the other day I was around my boss (40s male ~ 6’8"ish) who is a real kind guy and diplomatic. He spoke with the team to tell us some news. Albeit not the best news, but during this announcement he stood particularly close to me and afterwards he puts his hands on my shoulders and gives a quick rub like “go champ” type of ordeal. Kind of like I was his son. Then he tells me he’s sorry (not sure what for) and thanks me.. Hmm??? Seemed like I was portrayed as having a power position. Much respect. I find it very interesting that women seem to not care about condoms when I wear this. I still get some pretty nice dihls with this mix, however it really depends on how much I sleep it seems. Also, something new.. I’ve been playing with cannabis lately (haven’t been in a few years) mostly for sleep because of my crazy work schedule.. Well I’m thinking this stuff may play a role in pheromone production. Will have to dig deeper though. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/558 "2016-05-11T17:56:26Z")
So lately I’ve been trying this mix I’ve been using that usually gives me great success. TUTH/TAC/P96 and Hedione. But ever since I started using cannabis again I feel the results have disappeared. I cannot seem to get any hits.. However, the sex still seems amazing and women are definitely disinhibited and horny when really close to me one on one. But the hits, Dihl, etc. are gone. I plan to test different mixes to try and zero down on what type of -mones (sexual or social) the cannabis seems to diminish or increase. My gut tells me it is a sexual reducer. I feel as though if I cut some social out the high sexual will be able to thrive.. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 6:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/559 "2016-05-11T18:36:55Z")
The question will sound corny, but why do you use cannabis? ---
**Author:** ![edlack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c77e96/32.png) [@edlack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/edlack)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 4:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/560 "2016-05-12T04:33:38Z")
> [@Jdub](#): > > So lately I’ve been trying this mix I’ve been using that usually gives me great success. TUTH/TAC/P96 and Hedione. > But ever since I started using cannabis again I feel the results have disappeared. I cannot seem to get any hits.. However, the sex still seems amazing and women are definitely disinhibited and horny when really close to me one on one. But the hits, Dihl, etc. are gone. I plan to test different mixes to try and zero down on what type of -mones (sexual or social) the cannabis seems to diminish or increase. My gut tells me it is a sexual reducer. I feel as though if I cut some social out the high sexual will be able to thrive.. I think it’s been documented to lower testosterone levels. So maybe up the tuth a little? if that don’t work maybe a lot? ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 3:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/561 "2016-05-13T03:14:05Z")
> [@Conjurator](#): > > The question will sound corny, but why do you use cannabis? I’ve been using it for sleep. I have a hard time sleeping and any OTC sleep aids leave me feeling far too groggy the next day. I wake up feeling refreshed from this though. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 3:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/562 "2016-05-13T03:15:01Z")
> [@edlack](#): > > I think it’s been documented to lower testosterone levels. So maybe up the tuth a little? if that don’t work maybe a lot? This is exactly what I was thinking. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 3:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922/563 "2016-05-13T03:19:17Z")
So today I went with my gut and cut the p96 and just had two sprays each of TUTH and TAC. W/ hedione and cologne. Throughout the day women who did happen to get close enough and/or interact with me responded well. However still not really any Dihl, save for the Latin/Hispanic group. I’m used to gorgeous 10/10 blondes and brunette cali girls just utterly staring at me as if there is nothing more important in the world. I just haven’t been seeing any of this lately. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922.md?page=27) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jdubs-phero-evaluations/60922.md?page=29)