# Jeez are all the best products gone? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 31, 2010, 6:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842 "2010-01-31T06:39:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 6:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/1 "2010-01-31T06:39:25Z")
I’ve been browsing threads looking to both expand my knowledge of pheromones and find new products to try out, here’s some of my luck. Looks like P83 coupled with Instant Honesty really go well with MX297 > [@\*\* Party Report - MX297 + Instant Honesty + P83 \*\*](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/party-report-mx297-instant-honesty-p83/34109/1): > > So, from my post yesterday, I went out to the first of many Xmas parties lined up over the coming weeks…I’ve been mulling over what to mix MX297 with, IH, P83, Ammo, A314…etc.etc. There are just so many possibilities, but I wanted to be logical in my thought process. I know that MX297 contains elements of all of the popular products, so I was certainly mindful of not OD’ing. Anyways, after some thought, I came up with the following combination: 2 sprays MX297 (both sides of the neck) 2 sprays… Unfortunately P83 is out of stock But even alone MX297 can make me “The Man” > [@MX297 - Makes You The Man](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx297-makes-you-the-man/34320): > > I’ve been using [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) here and there, and it sure is a winner. Here are some different hits that i can recount (2 sprays)- One eerie thing about it is that on many different occasions, guys would call me “The Man”. They were like “You’re The Man” after i said something. Kinda gives you take on a leader of men vibe, but without the intimidation factor of say A314. The ladies also seem to like it just as well. I had one girl at a bar come upto me and start hitting on me and complimenting the cr… Course that’s also out of stock MX333 looks promising as an Ultimate Secret Weapon > [@Panty Scorcher MX333 - The Ultimate Secret Weapon](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/panty-scorcher-mx333-the-ultimate-secret-weapon/35791): > > I have just tested MX333. Here are the results : Dosage : 3 sprays Self Effects : None that I can tell, but the scent is very unusual. I find that when something has a unique smell, it does tend to alter my perception of the world. Not phero related, just how my brain is wired. Effects on Others : I have tested it three times now in medical facility settings (doctor - dentist office - dermatologist). In every interaction with a female, I have noticed a major increase in their reaction to almo… But it’s out of stock ☹ P103 can awaken P86 but it’s out of stock > [@P103 (at 1:2) awakens P86](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-at-1-2-awakens-p86/35688): > > P86 is known for its beautifying effects. When you wear it, the people around you look more attractive and the wearer seems to appear more attractive to the people around him or her. This effect has been noticed by many observers. I believe I was [the first to call attention to this effect](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/self-improvement-w-p86-sensuality-mix/15812). Wildflower calls P86 [the crush pheromone](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-is-the-crush-mone/26509). P86 definitely has more sensual and attractant qualities than just the “Shallow Hal” or “[Instant Airbrush](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-instant-airbrush/24083)” effect. Sedation as an unwanted P86 effect One of the… Which is no big deal I guess since P86 is out of stock too Raw Power is AD’s answer to Primal > [@Do we want Raw Power & Dirty?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855): > > Hello to all here in Pherotalk, I have decided to make a poll regarding [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) & Dirty slight_smile Btw bear in mind this is my first time posting a poll slight_smile So here is my poll\> Yes or No for “Do we want Raw Power & Dirty?” My vote as a veteran member here is Yes as we can test it out with other pheros to see how effective is it & there is a lot of great reports about it before too. I noticed that those two pheros has being out of stock for so long. So these two pheros deserved … Three guesses…and yes Dirty is out of stock too [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) is supposed to have a calming effect on women, even easing the effect of PMS…wow sign me up > [@Anyone been "busted" with pheromones?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-been-busted-with-pheromones/189879): > > Just curious if anyone here has had a girl find their bottle of IFM, TUTH, or any of the “blatantly” labeled (ie, something that could be construed as “coercive”) products and get upset over it. I imagine some women would feel betrayed or coerced if they discovered that the man they’re interested in has been using [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) for that “edge”, especially if they don’t understand the concepts and “limits” of pheromones. (Which IMHO is completely ridiculous, what do they think we’re doing when we’… As soon as the product becomes available Somebody here described TAH as like candy for girls. > [@Pheromones for Pickup: Attraction, Comfort, Seduction](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832): > > Which pheromones do you guys use for each phase of seduction, in terms of something like the Mystery Method or Neil Strauss’ Game? We were thinking something like this: Attraction: IO or Liquid Sunshine + Instant Shine + small amount of TUTH The IO or one of the Liquid Sunshine mixes would make people chatty, make 'em feel good The Shine will make them feel even better. Increase the energy, and make you seem like one of those people everyone likes to be around. An optimistic, bright breath o… This ones actually IN stock…possibly because it’s listed as being a thousand dollars. Will any of these products ever be back in stock or does out of stock mean gone for good? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 8:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/2 "2010-01-31T08:01:29Z")
Currently the trend in retail is to trim inventory and keep stockpiles low. Everybody’s doing it, especially when inventory/tax season is nigh. You don’t wanna pay tax on excess inventory or tie money up on stuff that lies around. With that said, I feel your pain. Oddly I don’t care for most of the above mentioned products. But my favs are history too: classic A314 (7-moan version sold at LS), classic [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) (original Nautica Competition scent) and TAA oil. So I’ve gotten back to basics: Alpha 7 and SOE. Actually a killer combo and oil based to boot. I sometimes tame it a bit with a zap or two of Instant Sexiness. Makes me into a sex animal with a sensitive spirit. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 5:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/3 "2010-01-31T17:34:21Z")
While we’re on the subject, I find most of the prices for the products that are actually IN stock to be very reasonable…save for TAH, am I reading something wrong or is that stuff actually a thousand bucks? Why? I mean TAL is only 30 bucks, why is TAH so expensive? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/4 "2010-01-31T17:52:06Z")
Probably a mistake. Shit happens. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/5 "2010-01-31T19:10:48Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Currently the trend in retail is to trim inventory and keep stockpiles low. Everybody’s doing it, especially when inventory/tax season is nigh. You don’t wanna pay tax on excess inventory or tie money up on stuff that lies around. This could be true, but I don’t believe it. The stock has never remained so dry as it has in the last year. I’m beginning to think I’M NO LONGER LOVED. 🙄 😮 Give up the mix for PHERO PROOF and all is forgiven. ---
**Author:** ![frostworth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eada6e/32.png) [@frostworth](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/frostworth)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2010, 7:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/6 "2010-01-31T19:11:00Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > While we’re on the subject, I find most of the prices for the products that are actually IN stock to be very reasonable…save for TAH, am I reading something wrong or is that stuff actually a thousand bucks? Why? I mean TAL is only 30 bucks, why is TAH so expensive? There assuredly must be a reporting user discount. I can’t imagine anyone dropping a grand on mones unless its smell triggers a submissive state in the opposite gender’s mind where they will do anything you will say. In that case, I think dropping a grand is more than reasonable. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![zylerh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ec9cab/32.png) [@zylerh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zylerh)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 2:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/7 "2010-02-01T02:15:00Z")
I believe it’s priced so high to dissuade folks (unless you’re mighty desperate) from buying it, so that the remaining stockpile may be used for other uses (instant sexiness, MX products, etc…). The same goes for meo-est i think. Also, unlike myself, some of the long-standing patrons on this site have been waiting much longer than us newbies- imagine their pain knowing that some of this stuff may never surface again 😮 Oh well, the ‘deaths’ of certain products- comes with the territory of being able to buy mones on this site is how I think about it. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 5:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/8 "2010-02-01T05:18:32Z")
> [@zylerh](#): > > **I believe it’s priced so high to dissuade folks (unless you’re mighty desperate) from buying it, so that the remaining stockpile may be used for other uses (instant sexiness, MX products, etc…).** The same goes for meo-est i think. Also, unlike myself, some of the long-standing patrons on this site have been waiting much longer than us newbies- imagine their pain knowing that some of this stuff may never surface again 😮 Oh well, the ‘deaths’ of certain products- comes with the territory of being able to buy mones on this site is how I think about it. I don’t think that is the case. I think there’s more going behind the scenes, because the store, for the loooooooongest of times, use to NEVER be OUT OF STOCK of anything for more than a day or two, if that. ---
**Author:** ![Liam](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/liam/32/2197_2.png) [@Liam](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Liam)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 1:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/9 "2010-02-01T13:29:55Z")
Out of stock now : A314, IS/a, IS/b, Ammo, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) , Tuth, P83.. wow .. The more i’m waiting for a product to get back in stock, the more products are going away.. Seems like i’ll never have the opportunity to get an order out, it’s depressing. At least i’ve had good readings since i registered 3 month ago. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 1:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/10 "2010-02-01T13:34:12Z")
> [@Liam](#): > > Out of stock now : A314, IS/a, IS/b, Ammo, IS, Tuth, P83.. wow .. > > The more i’m waiting for a product to get back in stock, the more products are going away.. > Seems like i’ll never have the opportunity to get an order out, it’s depressing. > At least i’ve had good readings since i registered 3 month ago. I sure HOPE it’s not GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SALES! It would be NICE if someone in the KNOW (MHarris, Jas, Steve) comfirms that I’m so very WRONG, and it’s the TRUTH! 😕 ---
**Author:** ![oom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@oom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oom)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 2:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/11 "2010-02-01T14:44:57Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > Will any of these products ever be back in stock or does out of stock mean gone for good? I also feel your pain. If someone works out what’s going on with the now long-running low stock problem then please let on… meanwhile there’s a thread I started on how to at least be notified when things come back into stock (because the Androtics “notify me” button doesn’t work). Here: how to get alerted when product comes into stock Lets hope this low-stock period is just temporary. I’ve started to buy the raw materials from other suppliers simply because I have no idea when - or even _whether at all_ - certain products will be in stock again. I’d rather give my money to Androtics, but if they won’t let me?.. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![frostworth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eada6e/32.png) [@frostworth](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/frostworth)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 6:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/12 "2010-02-01T18:13:34Z")
> [@Liam](#): > > Out of stock now : A314, IS/a, IS/b, Ammo, Instant Shine , Tuth, P83.. wow .. > > The more i’m waiting for a product to get back in stock, the more products are going away.. > Seems like i’ll never have the opportunity to get an order out, it’s depressing. > At least i’ve had good readings since i registered 3 month ago. I completely agree. At least I was able to pick up some of the more common sprays like IG, IS, IH, and a few MXs. > [@M\_M](#): > > I sure HOPE it’s not GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SALES! > > It would be NICE if someone in the KNOW (MHarris, Jas, Steve) comfirms that I’m so very WRONG, and it’s the TRUTH! 😕 Don’t scare me like that. Better not be true… ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/13 "2010-02-01T22:36:07Z")
Another problem with having out of stock items is the possibility that people will make a run on the items once they get back in stock and horde them. I myself have a 30ml bottle of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) so I’m peachy in that department. P86 however has been gone for 2 weeks now, and I’m very worried that by the time it gets back I’ll have to make _another_ big purchase and horde that. The recession is hitting everyone right now, and there are also some crazy things going on behind the scenes here as well. It’s unfortunate, but I’m confident Androtics will pull through…hopefully.:o ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 11:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/14 "2010-02-01T23:05:29Z")
While the recession is still stinging things have been easing up. Retail and travel are on the upswing. Last week I was trying to book a flight to Vegas during Spring Break and seats were going fast 2 months ahead. Plenty of flights are sold out. Last year I booked a week before I left and had plenty of choice. Hopefully AD is not selling off remaining stock & making a run for the border. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2010, 11:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/15 "2010-02-01T23:54:48Z")
I might get flamed for saying this but I will say it anyway: I think it is great how they give away free samples or products, but I think they should stop doing it. Well, if it is affecting their long-run finance. It is great for us customers, but they should also think about maximizing their profits too, unless they are making a load of money. As long as it is nothing illicit, I don’t see how their trying to max out financial gain would be bad… Or increase the shipping by a couple more bucks? ---
**Author:** ![frostworth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eada6e/32.png) [@frostworth](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/frostworth)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/16 "2010-02-02T00:08:50Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > I might get flamed for saying this but I will say it anyway: I think it is great how they give away free samples or products, but I think they should stop doing it. Well, if it is affecting their long-run finance. It is great for us customers, but they should also think about maximizing their profits too, unless they are making a load of money. As long as it is nothing illicit, I don’t see how their trying to max out financial gain would be bad… > > Or increase the shipping by a couple more bucks? I’m no marketing expert, but providing free samples of product that is not in your order would allow you to try something which you may never have tried in the first place. Then, if it works, you give customers who do not frequent these forums to try out other products which they would otherwise not try (because their current ones do the trick already). It’s not like they give out 30ml bottles – just the ToGos in order for people to try out. I know, either one will still affect the influx of orders as people will be getting more product for their buck, but I think that the fact that people grow to love these gifts make them stick with AD as opposed to many of its competitors. After all, having Jacob send us handwritten notes with “Thanks” makes the company seem so much more personal and caring towards the customers and not appear for first time users as a complete scam. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 4:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/17 "2010-02-02T04:31:46Z")
I have to admit that getting a free sample of IO was pretty nice and has me debating between getting a full sized version or CTTM2 ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 2:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/18 "2010-02-02T14:04:15Z")
I hope you’re right about the inventory/tax season Gegogi. I know in my industry, small business, many businesses are out of money first thing in January, especially if they have had a hard year. The amount of people who judging by their advice think they could run a research business like Androtics is funny. Like n00bs who post advice in the introductions forum 5 days after they join 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![queixada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/97f17d/32.png) [@queixada](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/queixada)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/19 "2010-02-02T19:56:25Z")
> [@oom](#): > > I’ve started to buy the raw materials from other suppliers simply because I have no idea when - or even _whether at all_ - certain products will be in stock again. I’d rather give my money to Androtics, but if they won’t let me?.. 🙂 i was thinking about doing the same. any advice to give in that dept? what are the ingredients in ammo again? ---
**Author:** ![frostworth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eada6e/32.png) [@frostworth](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/frostworth)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2010, 10:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/20 "2010-02-02T22:27:28Z")
> [@queixada](#): > > i was thinking about doing the same. any advice to give in that dept? what are the ingredients in ammo again? I don’t think the mixers have ever revealed the exact ingredients, proportions, and such that go into any of the mones. I don’t think it would be very good business sense to do so. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842.md?page=2)