# Jeez are all the best products gone?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [January 31, 2010, 6:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842 "2010-01-31T06:39:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jasper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cdc98d/32.png) [@Jasper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasper)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 3:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/41 "2010-02-04T15:04:27Z")

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> [@oom](#):
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> I had some time this morning and I wrote a perl script to got through the Androtics site and **check for availibility of every product they sell** , cleaned up the results and funnelled it all into excel. The script simply goes to the website, reads the title, looks for availability and price, then moves onto the next product. There are about 265 products of which approximately 220 are 'mones. The script is pretty blunt so may not have caught all products.
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> Attached is a table of _all_ products sold in the store, together with their availability. Bizzarely over half the products are out of stock. A glimmer of hope is that there _are_ some products that are in stock which might be interesting to some forum members. For example there seem to be A314 variants which appear to be available and these might be suitable for some people waiting for the ‘normal’ A314 to come back into stock, such as:
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> ----• - Social Bonding Edition 10mL (A314REV25) 17 in stock! 109.00  
> ----•- Ultra Fine Edition 10mL (A314REV26) 17 in stock! 99.00  
> ---- P90 Special Edition 10 mL (A314REV24) 17 in stock! 128.00  
> ----•- Extra None Edition 10 mL (A314REV27) 17 in stock! 84.00
> 
> The zip file contains the excel spreadsheet, the PDF is a printable version. Enjoy.
> 
> By the way: if anyone knows where to get some Meo-Est from (at a high but ‘reasonable’ price) I’d be very eager to know. PM me with any leads.

Your links work, but there doesn’t seem to be a way to navigate to those A314 versions from the main page. Makes me wonder if it’s legacy code left on the site.

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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 3:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/42 "2010-02-04T15:23:12Z")

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Very interesting! Thanks for sharing those links! You have no idea how long some people here have been waiting for those ‘Special’ A314 editions. 🙂

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**Author:** ![oom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@oom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oom)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/43 "2010-02-04T15:45:35Z")

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> [@Snoopyace](#):
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> Very interesting! Thanks for sharing those links! You have no idea how long some people here have been waiting for those ‘Special’ A314 editions. 🙂

As Jasper mentioned, the pages may be left over from previous products or tests. It can’t hurt to try if you need some A314!

Good luck, and here’s hoping any problems at Androtics get sorted out and stock comes back soon.

Oom

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**Author:** ![LaPew](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lapew/32/330_2.png) [@LaPew](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaPew)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/44 "2010-02-04T16:00:54Z")

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> [@Snoopyace](#):
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> …You have no idea how long some people here have been waiting for those ‘Special’ A314 editions. 🙂

Tell me about it.  
If I thought for a second that Androtics would let it go through, a couple of them would’ve already been ordered. Hopefully if/when they are released more 17 of each are made available…

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**Author:** ![oom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@oom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oom)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/45 "2010-02-04T16:31:46Z")

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> [@LaPew](#):
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> Tell me about it.  
> If I thought for a second that Androtics would let it go through, a couple of them would’ve already been ordered. Hopefully if/when they are released more 17 of each are made available…

Would it really hurt to try? What’s the worst that can happen: you get an email saying it’s not available and a credit.

Edit  
BTW the site seems to be unavailable now… at least for me. I was visiting to buy an item I’d noticed that was still left in the store but with decreasing (and already low) stock. I don’t think I’ve ever struggled so much to pay someone money before.

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**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/46 "2010-02-04T17:32:02Z")

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oom, thats an awesome program Thanks!.. is it easy to use? Would you be able to share it with eveyone.. Its deserving of its own thread if you havnt already 🙂

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/47 "2010-02-04T17:36:46Z")

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> [@oom](#):
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> . I don’t think I’ve ever struggled so much to pay someone money before.

Chuckle! 😃 That’s the new club, **“WILL YOU PLEASE, LET ME SPEND UP MY MONEY.”**

Josef said it better in the STORE SUGGESTION thread, _ **“this post is not borne out of anger but rather frustration. i am a happy customer and i would like to buy something. would you like to sell it to me?” 😃** _

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**Author:** ![oom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@oom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oom)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/48 "2010-02-04T18:31:52Z")

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> [@daset1](#):
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> oom, thats an awesome program Thanks!.. is it easy to use? Would you be able to share it with eveyone.. Its deserving of its own thread if you havnt already 🙂

The perl script is attached (as a zip file). Just run it from the command line (as long as you’ve got a perl interpreter installed). It’ll write the results out to standard output and a text file. Then simply import the text file into excel (asterisk “\*” delimited) and clean up a little.

It’s not too complicated (I haven’t programmed for 15 years 🙂). It should run fine on a mac as OS X has perl installed by default. You’ll need to CHMOD the file so that it’s executable on your system.

If all of this sounds complex, it’s probably not worth your while to try and get the script to work. Better instead to wait, ask, prod, nudge, question, investigate and cajole Androtics into being more transparent about what’s going on, and if they need any help I’m sure there are enough smart people in this forum that can help.

\<holds up sign\> “Will work for MEO-EST” 🙂

Androtics website still down for me. _ **EDIT: Now site seems back up** _

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**Author:** ![oom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@oom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oom)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/49 "2010-02-04T19:00:46Z")

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> [@oom](#):
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> Androtics website still down for me. _ **EDIT: Now site seems back up** _

Front page is having problems: there’s some sort of technical problem with the server/database (see attached image).

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**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 7:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/50 "2010-02-04T19:14:48Z")

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> [@oom](#):
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> Front page is having problems: there’s some sort of technical problem with the server/database (see attached image).

hmmm maybe there doing some back end upgrades they mentioned a long time ago, that could keep them busy…

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**Author:** ![LaPew](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lapew/32/330_2.png) [@LaPew](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaPew)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 8:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/51 "2010-02-04T20:27:44Z")

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> [@oom](#):
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> Would it really hurt to try? What’s the worst that can happen: you get an email saying it’s not available and a credit.

The worst that’ll probably happen on your end.  
My guess is that ordering it would create that a backlog of refunds and emails that need to go out creating more work for Androtics. Which isn’t exactly helpful at a time when it’s clear there’s difficulty afoot.\*

\*(opinion not fact, I have no explanation for the lack of products)

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**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 8:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/52 "2010-02-04T20:34:39Z")

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> [@Jasper](#):
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> Your links work, but there doesn’t seem to be a way to navigate to those A314 versions from the main page. Makes me wonder if it’s legacy code left on the site.

I doubt we can get or does androtics want to sell those special A314’s yet…Also, your scraping script could be boarding on unauthorized access, though I wouldn’t go so far to say it’s illegal.

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**Author:** ![oom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@oom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oom)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 9:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/53 "2010-02-04T21:36:52Z")

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> [@giants52000](#):
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> I doubt we can get or does androtics want to sell those special A314’s yet…Also, your scraping script could be boarding on unauthorized access, though I wouldn’t go so far to say it’s illegal.

Ha ha. Unauthorized Access? Riiiiight.

It’s an open web page, accessible to all, marketing/selling a product, on a public server. It’d be very easy to prohibit unauthorised access if necessary. If it helps understand what the script is doing, here’s an analogy: it’d be the same as mistyping the URL to access a particular product. Imagine typing out by hand the following URL:```

> **[Molecule C – Social, Feed Good, Sensual Pheromone - Pheromone Labs](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-c/)**
>
> Molecule C (TAC) is an experimental putative pheromone molecule known for creating calm, sensual, and socially grounded atmospheres. It has a reputation for being a FEELING-enhancer. It’s been field-tested in over 65,000 real-world social encounters,...

```auto

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 The URLs are very similar. In this case mistakenly adding an extra 9 when typing the URL would simply bring you to another product page. All the script does is do what a human can do: type in a URL and then go to the next product, except it's quicker and doesn't get bored. I've guessed at and mistyped URLs before, and I imagine everyone has *at least* once including you. It's not "un-authorized access", it's access.

I'd quite like to be considered some *black-belt OMFG züber-hacker* with some *l33t skillz* but sadly, looking at products on a site by going to the next product code via a public URL isn't going to cut it among the real hackers out there. This isn't some sort of unauthorized sneaking in a closed back door of a shuttered shop, it's walking in the open **front**  **door** of the shop and looking at the products on the shelves.

Mundane, but true. ;)
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**Author:** ![oom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@oom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/oom)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 10:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/54 "2010-02-05T10:15:55Z")

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> [@lone\_star](#):
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> When Ammo finally does come back I’m getting 2 bottles, 1 regular and 1 double strength.

Lone star, I received some Ammo (15ml togo 1x) as a freebie in my latest offer. I have enough in a 30ml bottle already so if you’re desperate I’m willing to send the unwanted to-go to you (if you pay postage).

Let me know via forum or PM. Shipping will be from UK and probably cost about 5(ish) dollars.

Oom.

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**Author:** ![p27](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c67d28/32.png) [@p27](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/p27)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 10:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/55 "2010-02-05T10:51:18Z")

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i’m new to this, but i’ve always wanted to try a314. what’s the difference between all 4 and which one is the best for someone in a sales position?

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 11:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/56 "2010-02-05T11:04:49Z")

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Ah, can’t wait for these A314 editions. AD is like a GF trying to break up with you when you love her too much, ah it hurts! Quit playing games with my heart AD, my heart…

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2010, 2:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/57 "2010-02-05T14:17:01Z")

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Now A314, Ammo, and IG are out of stock too, not to mention that the double strength version of TuTH seems to be gone too.

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/58 "2010-02-06T18:22:33Z")

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> [@RADMAN513](#):
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> I’ve been browsing threads looking to both expand my knowledge of pheromones and find new products to try out, here’s some of my luck.
> 
> Looks like P83 coupled with Instant Honesty really go well with MX297  
> [\*\* Party Report - MX297 + Instant Honesty + P83 \*\*](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/party-report-mx297-instant-honesty-p83/34109/1)  
> Unfortunately P83 is out of stock
> 
> But even alone MX297 can make me “The Man”  
> [MX297 - Makes You The Man](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx297-makes-you-the-man/34320)  
> Course that’s also out of stock
> 
> MX333 looks promising as an Ultimate Secret Weapon  
> [Panty Scorcher MX333 - The Ultimate Secret Weapon](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/panty-scorcher-mx333-the-ultimate-secret-weapon/35791)  
> But it’s out of stock ☹
> 
> P103 can awaken P86 but it’s out of stock  
> [P103 (at 1:2) awakens P86](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p103-at-1-2-awakens-p86/35688)  
> Which is no big deal I guess since P86 is out of stock too
> 
> Raw Power is AD’s answer to Primal  
> [Do we want Raw Power & Dirty?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/do-we-want-raw-power-dirty/189855)  
> Three guesses…and yes Dirty is out of stock too
> 
> Instant Female Magic is supposed to have a calming effect on women, even easing the effect of PMS…wow sign me up  
> [Anyone been "busted" with pheromones?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-been-busted-with-pheromones/189879)  
> As soon as the product becomes available
> 
> Somebody here described TAH as like candy for girls.  
> [Pheromones for Pickup: Attraction, Comfort, Seduction](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832)  
> This ones actually IN stock…possibly because it’s listed as being a thousand dollars.
> 
> Will any of these products ever be back in stock or does out of stock mean gone for good?

So do any of the more experienced users know of products that are still in stock/will still be made that are comparable to any of the following?  
P83  
MX297  
P86  
IFM

Not sure about the other ones but I guess from reading older threads that IFM, Dirty and [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) are all defunct and will never come back.

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**Author:** ![frostworth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eada6e/32.png) [@frostworth](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/frostworth)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 6:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/59 "2010-02-06T18:33:25Z")

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> [@RADMAN513](#):
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> Now A314, Ammo, and IG are out of stock too, not to mention that the double strength version of TuTH seems to be gone too.

I see IG with 12 still in stock.

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**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/jeez-are-all-the-best-products-gone/35842/60 "2010-02-06T18:52:58Z")

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well at least we see them trying by putting out 100+ ammo… just think of how many combined orders went though the store on friday! Just have to give them time…

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