# journal v2.0 **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Journals\ **Created:** [February 16, 2008, 5:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204 "2008-02-16T05:02:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 5:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/1 "2008-02-16T05:02:32Z")
Once again, this journal is for me to catalog my experiments. I hope to be posting a lot of them in the future. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 5:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/2 "2008-02-16T05:13:09Z")
I think I read a post once where someoneā€™s friend spilled a bottle of EW in their bedroomā€¦ Well, _I_ did that earlier today. About 2/3 of the bottle ran over the edge of my makeup table, onto the chair and the floor. šŸ˜® The smell isnā€™t as terrible as I thought it would be. Thereā€™s just a slightly rotten fruit sort of smell hanging in the room. Bah! I have to order more of it now. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2008, 6:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/3 "2008-02-16T06:36:29Z")
Wheres the post? You cant just tease us like this! ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2008, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/4 "2008-02-17T16:50:10Z")
Sorry taters, Iā€™m slow at posting. ā˜¹ I have a MX135 review in the womenā€™s forum, however! I should just start putting my reviews in here so I donā€™t clutter up the place. Hereā€™s a quick MX134 review! I use the same amount that I used with the MX135: 2 sprays split between wrists and behind ears 1 spray to the back of the neck 2 sprays to the hair I went out to dinner with a friend, and once again this mix seems to make people want to stare at me (not DIHL), be near me, talk to me. In fact, this seems to be the basic reaction with every product Iā€™ve tried so far. Our waiter came over to introduce himself and take our drink order, but ended up standing there for a good 5 minutes talking about his workday. It was a tad bit surreal because he was also speaking somewhat fast, like he was in a rush to get the whole story out to us in a limited amount of time. His body language didnā€™t suggest a rush to leave the table, however. He was pretty chatty with us for the rest of our meal, which got to be a pain after a while because we couldnā€™t eat. I noticed that he was chatty with other customers as well, but not to the degree he was with us. He wasnā€™t telling his dayā€™s story to anyone else and preventing them from eating! ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2008, 2:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/5 "2008-02-21T02:53:49Z")
Today I tried out a mix of Scent of Eros, IS/A, and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/): One SoE gel pack split between wrists and neck Two IS/A sprays split between wrists and behind ears One IS/A spray to the back of my neck One IS spray/mist to my hair/face/upper body Once again, more chattiness from people in general. Also quite a few ā€œyou look different, is your hair different?ā€ statements. Iā€™m getting more attention in general with the pheromones, but not an overwhelming amount of _flirty_ attention, unless Iā€™m completely misreading people. Maybe I need to stop looking for sexual responses at work! šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2008, 8:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/6 "2008-02-21T08:46:23Z")
> [@ariadne](#): > > Today I tried out a mix of Scent of Eros, IS/A, and Instant Shine: > > One Scent of Eros gel pack split between wrists and neck > Two IS/A sprays split between wrists and behind ears > One IS/A spray to the back of my neck > One IS spray/mist to my hair/face/upper body > > Once again, more chattiness from people in general. Also quite a few ā€œyou look different, is your hair different?ā€ statements. > > Iā€™m getting more attention in general with the pheromones, but not an overwhelming amount of _flirty_ attention, unless Iā€™m completely misreading people. Maybe I need to stop looking for sexual responses at work! šŸ˜‰ Just settle in with a good mix for a week. Let your observational skills grow. ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2008, 5:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/7 "2008-02-22T05:17:20Z")
Whoa my! 5 sprays of MX134! You are daring! Do you find others deferring to you more with that amount on? I find that I start to get a little mean when I wear upwards of 3 sprays. ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2008, 3:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/8 "2008-02-23T03:15:51Z")
> [@Kitten](#): > > Whoa my! 5 sprays of MX134! You are daring! Do you find others deferring to you more with that amount on? I find that I start to get a little mean when I wear upwards of 3 sprays. I havenā€™t noticed any meanness, but yes, I _have_ noticed that people defer to me more than when Iā€™m not wearing it. Iā€™m liking it so far. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2008, 6:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/9 "2008-02-23T06:00:42Z")
> [@MadisonTate](#): > > Wheres the post? You cant just tease us like this! Who loves you Tater. > [@EOW disaster!!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eow-disaster/2593): > > Oh, no, no, no!! frowning I put on some eow today, then left home. Normal phero cloud day (ie-attention up my arse). Came home. Friend is looking through my things. My eow is sitting on top of my dresser. I come in just in time to hear her say, ā€œwhatā€™s this?ā€ and see her drop the partially open bottle into my underwear drawer. open_mouth eow everywhere. My room smells like an eow factory. I threw all the contents of the drawer into the wash, and scrubbed the dresser, but the eow iā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2008, 9:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/10 "2008-02-23T09:48:17Z")
> [@Kitten](#): > > Whoa my! 5 sprays of MX134! You are daring! Do you find others deferring to you more with that amount on? I find that I start to get a little mean when I wear upwards of 3 sprays. When I wear MX134, people _want_ to do things for me. Iā€™m recieved like the image I projectā€¦at ease, self assured and in control. _All good things_ā€¦unless I wear too much. I usually soften it with 1-2 sprays of [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)/2X. I wear it when I want more of an air of authority, more attention and/or co-operation and to make sure I get my point across. Humā€¦i wonder MX134 + Instant Honesty + P79 = calmly, honestly, _really_ get my point across? nbully? Wow, I max out at 2 sprays of MX134 or even Instant Sexy/A for that matter. If I wear much moreā€¦I do _tend_ to become more annoyed and I donā€™t suffer fools well! If **I** wore 5 sprays of MX134? šŸ˜® Iā€™m afraid my ā€˜captiveā€™ audience would turn into prisoners andā€¦wellā€¦I donā€™t _take_ prisoners. Funny, MX134 seems to ā€˜agreeā€™ with me better than Instant Sexiness/A. Why Iā€™m not sureā€¦maybe less TAL?..better rounded mix?..both? Kit, ariadne, in comparison of MX134 and Instant Sexines/A how do _you feel_ when wearing themā€¦separately _and_ together, if you do so, and how do the reactions of others differ? Do you prefer one to the other? If so when, where and why? Curiously have you worn them together for/to the same or different effect? Congrats on getting your jounal up ariadne! Canā€™t wait to hear moreā€¦Ima gonna _strrrrrap_ myself in! šŸ˜ƒ Bella šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2008, 9:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/11 "2008-02-25T21:28:14Z")
> [@](#): > > Kit, ariadne, in comparison of [MX134](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and Instant Sexines/A how do _you feel_ when wearing themā€¦separately _and_ together, if you do so, and how do the reactions of others differ? > Do you prefer one to the other? If so when, where and why? > Curiously have you worn them together for/to the same or different effect? I donā€™t wear them together very often. They do have different self-affects and different effects on others even tho they are similar in some ways. IS/A has a stronger uplifting feeling for me. Like life is good and everything gonna be okay. MX134 feels like I know my stuff and I can handle whatever like a pro. IS/A is more connected with people and MX134 is more aloof. From others I see more sexy flirty responses with IS/A than MX134. Again, it isnā€™t unsexy attention with the MX134, but it can border on a worshipful priestess/acolyte relationship rather than a joining of equals. IS/A is more spunky and fun and a bit less elevated. 2-3 sprays of either product is perfect for me. I like to spray MX134 where I inhale it less and IS/A where I inhale it more, meaning back of the head and on the chest, respectively. Iā€™ve worn them together a few times when I was feeling a bit unconfidentā€“the MX134 to get other people more compliant and the IS/A to get my mood back up to where it needed to be. Whatā€™s _your_ opinion on the matter, Ms. Bella? šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 9:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/12 "2008-02-29T09:10:22Z")
Hey Kit! šŸ™‚ Sorry it took me so long to get backā€¦but I was busy feeding your copulin slave boys and setting traps in Kittenland!!!..you _know_ how things get out of hand when youā€™re _away!_ Aaaannnd bosshank has been dogginā€™ me 'bout how dusty the ballroomā€™s gettingā€¦it really does _need_ a good dustingā€¦soooo, think you could lend me your slave boys?..'sides a few things have come loose in the ballroom that I gotta fix _before_ class startsā€¦and I need a coupla guys who are good at hammeringā€¦šŸ˜ƒ > [@Kitten](#): > > _ **I donā€™t wear them together very often. They do have different self-affects and different effects on others even tho they are similar in some ways. IS/A has a stronger uplifting feeling for me. Like life is good and everything gonna be okay. MX134 feels like I know my stuff and I can handle whatever like a pro. IS/A is more connected with people and MX134 is more aloof.** _ > _ **From others I see more sexy flirty responses with IS/A than MX134. Again, it isnā€™t unsexy attention with the MX134, but it can border on a worshipful priestess/acolyte relationship rather than a joining of equals. IS/A is more spunky and fun and a bit less elevated.** _ > _ **2-3 sprays of either product is perfect for me. I like to spray MX134 where I inhale it less and IS/A where I inhale it more, meaning back of the head and on the chest, respectively.** _ > _ **Iā€™ve worn them together a few times when I was feeling a bit unconfidentā€“the MX134 to get other people more compliant and the IS/A to get my mood back up to where it needed to be.** _ > > _ **Whatā€™s your opinion on the matter, Ms. Bella?** _ šŸ™‚ Yes, I get the same type of reaction/interest from both Instant Sexiness/A and MX134. The difference, for me, is I feel more sexy/sassy with Instant Sexiness/A than MX134. And the reaction/interest of others, toward me, is more sexual in nature. MX134 is my kick ass, get 'er done, you will serve me, ā€˜donā€™t f with bossā€™ mix! I can take two sprays of either InstantSexiness/A or MX134ā€¦1 up front and 1 to the back of the headā€¦any more than _that_ and youā€™ll wish you were in another stateā€¦like Californiaā€¦ah, Iā€™m on the east coast. It didnā€™t really occur to me šŸ™„ to wear them together and I like the idea of trying one spray each of Instant Sexiness/A and MX134ā€¦sounds like a good combination that would work for me in the right situation. If I prefer to be somewhat more connected rather than aloof. And youā€™re right, upon reflection, Instant Sexiness/A does give me a more uplifted feeling than MX134. Does that answer your question, Ms. Kit? **REPORT:** **MX134 and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)/2X** ( hope you donā€™t mind ariadne, but it just came to mind and relates to what were discussingā€¦God knows if I donā€™t put it down now, it may never come back! LOL ) MX134, I also agree, is more adoration orientedā€¦still attractive but less sexual. I actually had a _very_ attractive british gent 40ish, who I met on vacation, rub both my arms up and down while I was wearing it. Right in front of Wolfie! šŸ˜® We were both trying to sort out some problem, with arrangements, that hotel management had screwed up. We were commiserating about the f up so even though I was a little taken aback by him doing that, I didnā€™t really feel it was untowardā€¦more of a ā€˜there thereā€™ kind of gesture, I think. And his wife was standing right next to me when he did it and she didnā€™t seem the least bit phased by it. At the time, I was wearing 2 sprays MX134 and 2 sprays Instant Honesty/2X - 1 spray to neck/chest of each and 1 spray split to wrists of each. I was also only wearing a bathing suit, which may have, somewhat, prompted the touchingā€¦and possibly the addition of Instant Honesty warmed him up to me ā€¦or heā€™s 'jus that kinda chap! Who knows? Either way, though he said nothing and Iā€™m sure he realized the guy meant nothing by itā€¦didnā€™t matter much _what_ the reasonā€¦Wolfie didnā€™t look to šŸ™‚ā€¦doesnā€™t like men pawing his cupcake. šŸ˜‰ Think Iā€™ll wear a little _extra_ Instant Sexiness/A and MX134, with my copulins, when you send over the slave boysā€¦_just_ to make sure they do a _really through_ job! Bella ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 3:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/13 "2008-02-29T15:43:08Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > **REPORT:** **MX134 and Instant Honesty/2X** ( hope you donā€™t mind ariadne, but it just came to mind and relates to what were discussingā€¦God knows if I donā€™t put it down now, it may never come back! LOL ) LOL! Not at all! The more information we have, the merrier! šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 4:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/14 "2008-02-29T16:03:14Z")
I think I may have found my own personal OD limit with IS/B. Or at least the point that I jump the fence from ā€œattractive, confident, sexyā€ to ā€œhelpless ditzā€. To begin the day yesterday, I was wearing: 2 sprays IS/B split between the wrists 2 sprays IS/B to either side of the neck 1 spray IS/B to the back of my head 2 sprays [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) to the top of my head 1 spray Instant Shine to my chest 1 gel pack of Scent of Eros I also had a ton of copulins spread out over my wrists and neck Yes, I know, this is quite definitely OD territory (for other people! šŸ˜ƒ) but I still feel Iā€™m in deep testing mode with these things. Plus Iā€™m getting good hits from a couple of particular targets and want to see if things can buildā€¦ Oh boy, they sure can! Read on! So Iā€™ve been getting noticeable extra attention from my targets lately, and yesterday was no exception. A lot more talking, asking how I am, etc. Around lunchtime, I decided to try a refresher spray of IS/B to the back of my head, just to see if there was an increase in hits or if it extended the ā€œhit time periodā€, as I have noticed the attention drops off as the pheromones ā€œeffective timeā€ runs out (which turns out to be around 6-7 hours for me). Wow, this definitely brought more hits, but it also turned me into an idiot later on! One target kept inhaling really deeply when I was come within a few feet of him. Another target just kept standing really close to me for various reasons, kept smiling like a doofus at me (which was actually really charming despite my description, because this guy rarely smiles!), kept asking me for help with silly things, and surprisingly told me he thought I was an expert on a certain technical thing. I say surprisingly because 1) I would expect this sort of reaction more from IS/A or MX134 and 2) Iā€™m definitely not an expert on this, and wouldnā€™t expect him to regard me as such when Iā€™m not pheromonally enhanced. Not his way! Now the ditz partā€¦ When the expert conversation came about, I handled that pretty well I think in laughing it off and saying ā€œno, you should talk to So-and-So about thatā€ and carried on. But later on, he walked up to me with the Doofus Smileā„¢ and I nearly fell off of my chair trying to get up! Not only that, but I kicked a trash can and nearly knocked it over! Then I started nervously laughing like an idiot! I normally do not react this way, but maybe it was just coincidence. šŸ™„ I think that after that, this particular target had one of those ā€œwhy did I say that/act like that??ā€ moments, because I had a legitimate question for him and he reacted in his usual flat manner. Either that or he was reflecting on how much of a ditz I was in our last encounter! šŸ˜› Today Iā€™m going to try a similar combo, except with less IS/B, a few sprays of MX135, and maybe a spray of MX134 or IS/A to the chest to stave off the airheadedness. Reports later! ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 5:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/15 "2008-03-01T17:10:21Z")
So yesterday, I inadvertantly applied a pack of The Edge instead of Scent of Eros. I didnā€™t notice until I was finished applying it that I had grabbed the wrong thing. I think this addition made my day go slightly askew with the target I got the biggest hits from the day before. What I wore: **Heavy** cops One The Edge gel pack One Scent of Eros gel pack One spray IS/B split between the wrists One Spray IS/B to the back of the head Two sprays MX135 to the back of the neck One spray [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) Double Strength to the top of my head One spray Instant Shine to the top of my head One spray MX134 to my chest Target (Iā€™ll call him G from now on) was walking toward me when I first saw him. He raised his eyebrows at me and then his eyes widened a tad. No smile, no hello, just a ā€œwtf??ā€ look. I didnā€™t see him again until hours later, and he almost would not make eye contact with me, like he was avoiding it. Near the end of the day he began talking to me again and looking at me. I had reapplied some IS (one spray to the top of my head) and IS/B (one spray to the back of my head) by this time, so I wonder if these softened the effect of The Edge, or at least helped bring the phero signature he _wants_ to react to back. I conjecture that the additional androstenone confused him and made him back off. On the plus side, I didnā€™t feel like a ditz! ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 6:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/16 "2008-03-02T18:54:00Z")
One thing I have noticed: when I get in the shower the day after applying cops and IS/B coconut, I smell them both like they were just applied. Not after the shower is overwith, but from the beginning to about halfway through the bathroom is **strongly** awash in these scents. Perhaps the steam or water reinvigorates the scent? ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/17 "2008-03-02T19:20:08Z")
Advice SO Iā€™m really interested in trying out Lust After Me with 20X cops. (I have found that I need a ton of cops to see a result. Probably because I was on constant birth control with no ā€œmonthly friendā€ breaks for years) Itā€™s my understanding that LAM is just alpha-androstenol and cops, right? If I were to order LAM 20X cops, am I basically just reordering things I already have, albeit not in the same bottle? Here is my list: Instant Shine Double Strength (_just_ ordered a new huge bottle of this, thinking about asking for it to be customized with 20X cops) [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) Double Strength IS/A IS/B MX134 MX135 Essence of a Woman Scent of Eros I really want to see if I can push Target G (see above) over the edge and my first choice would be to try LAM 20X cops, but like I said, it looks to me like I already have those basic components except in different mixes. Ideas, suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/18 "2008-03-02T21:48:07Z")
Hi ariadne The difference would be youā€™re missing an alphanol heavyweight like instant openness, spaceland or experimone alphanol. Though I also pair copulins with instant honesty often and it is a good combination. I bought [Lust After Me](https://phera.com/product/lust-after-me/) mostly to try out Androtics copulins and I do like the product but I would prefer an alcohol carrier to oil. The oil just seems to lengthen the amount of time waiting for smell to mellow and my bottle is scented and only 5x cops. I havenā€™t worn it enough yet to comment on the effectiveness compared to eow. Have fun experimenting! ---
**Author:** ![justonce](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justonce/32/1316_2.png) [@justonce](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justonce)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 11:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/19 "2008-03-02T23:11:06Z")
> [@](#): > > Another target just kept standing really close to me for various reasons, kept smiling like a doofus at me (which was actually really charming despite my description, because this guy rarely smiles!) This is the exact reaction I received when wearing [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) (4 sprays), IS/B (1 spray), and EST (1 spray). It happened 2 times in the same night. šŸ˜® Unheard of, as he also rarely smiles and normally keeps as far away from me as possible. It was funny too because the second time he contrived to find a reason to stand near me, and it made absolutely no sense at all. > [@](#): > > I nearly fell off of my chair trying to get up! Not only that, but I kicked a trash can and nearly knocked it over! Then I started nervously laughing like an idiot! ROFL. Got the visual on that one. justonce ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2008, 4:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/20 "2008-03-04T16:35:24Z")
I agree with Inkling. Alpha androstenol is often overlooked for attracting guys. Maybe because its been around since the 90s? It can be super attractive. Gives you sort of a Junior Varsity Cheerleader healthy/sexy vibe. Guys love it. (My current alphanol product is SoE/w. There are cops in there too, but really really light.) Wish I could recommend [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) for the alphanol product, but I just havenā€™t had attraction results with it. Somehow, I think it is specially buffered and tweaked to emphasize the chattiness component of alphanol and not the attraction part. Great for bringing shy people out of their shells, however. Kit [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204.md?page=2)