# journal v2.0 **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Journals\ **Created:** [February 16, 2008, 5:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204 "2008-02-16T05:02:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 1:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/21 "2008-03-05T01:13:29Z")
I have a bottle of [Lust After Me](https://phera.com/product/lust-after-me/) with 20X cops arriving tomorrow. I can’t wait! I have to sit in on a meeting that G will be at on Thursday, so maybe I can contrive to sit near him. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![TiggerBear](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tiggerbear/32/1813_2.png) [@TiggerBear](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TiggerBear)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 4:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/22 "2008-03-05T04:10:40Z")
GOOD GOD WOMAN …20X COPS!!! The men won’t know what hit them!! 😃 Good for you. I just got the Mirena IUD, which delivers hormones directly to the uterine lining, but doesn’t provide the same hormones that reportedly interfere with SO selection (per other posts in the Men’s journals & hints). I’ve ordered EoW separately to add to whatever mixture I choose to try on a given night. I can’t wait to have fun with these mixtures!!! Good luck with your 20X cops mix - make sure you have your mace handy!!! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 12:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/23 "2008-03-06T00:51:40Z")
> [@TiggerBear](#): > > GOOD GOD WOMAN …20X COPS!!! The men won’t know what hit them!! 😃 Good for you. I just got the Mirena IUD, which delivers hormones directly to the uterine lining, but doesn’t provide the same hormones that reportedly interfere with SO selection (per other posts in the Men’s journals & hints). I’ve ordered EoW separately to add to whatever mixture I choose to try on a given night. I can’t wait to have fun with these mixtures!!! Good luck with your 20X cops mix - make sure you have your mace handy!!! 🙂 Hey, can you direct me to these posts you’ve read about hormones? I’m interested if the one I’m about to start is one of these. I have some EoW and I’ve been wanting to try Androtics’ version. I decided to go all out! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 12:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/24 "2008-03-06T00:55:41Z")
So I got my bottle of [Lust After Me](https://phera.com/product/lust-after-me/) 20X cops. I had also requested it unscented. The smell is much different than EoW. Not cheesy, not unpleasant, but not exactly a scent I would want to bathe myself in. I can’t place the smell, but it is something I recognize. I can;t wait to try this out tomorrow!! ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 1:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/25 "2008-03-06T01:26:07Z")
I think I’m getting a huge headache from the alphanol in this LAM. I couldn’t resist trying out a couple of drops on my wrists to make ensure that the smell remains acceptable on my skin and… wooboy. Migraine city. ---
**Author:** ![TiggerBear](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tiggerbear/32/1813_2.png) [@TiggerBear](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TiggerBear)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 1:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/26 "2008-03-06T01:27:21Z")
Be sure to keep us posted on how things, er, go… 😉 Are you sure the migraine is from the alphanols? Maybe the VERY high cops concentration? Or the ylang ylang, if you’ve never used it before? Maybe the 2 drops you used is too high a dose for you? Several factors could be contributing to it. Do you normally suffer from migrains, and if you do, do you know what can trigger them? ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 1:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/27 "2008-03-06T01:59:04Z")
> [@TiggerBear](#): > > Be sure to keep us posted on how things, er, go… 😉 > > Are you sure the migraine is from the alphanols? Maybe the VERY high cops concentration? Or the ylang ylang, if you’ve never used it before? Maybe the 2 drops you used is too high a dose for you? Several factors could be contributing to it. Do you normally suffer from migrains, and if you do, do you know what can trigger them? I’ve used heavy cops before with no headache, so I don’t think it’s that. My LAM is unscented, so it’s not the ylang ylang, and I don’t usually get migraines (I just co-opted the term for this particular headache). The headache occurred within a minute or so of application, so I’m pretty sure it’s something in the LAM. Hopefully I adapt to it after a few applications! ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 8:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/28 "2008-03-06T08:29:56Z")
> [@ariadne](#): > > _ **I think I’m getting a huge headache from the alphanol in this Lust After Me** _. I couldn’t resist trying out a couple of drops on my wrists to make ensure that the smell remains acceptable on my skin and… _ **wooboy. Migraine city** _. > [@TiggerBear](#): > > Be sure to keep us posted on how things, er, go… 😉 > _ **Are you sure the migraine is from the alphanols? Maybe the VERY high cops concentration? Or the ylang ylang, if you’ve never used it before?** _ Maybe the 2 drops you used is too high a dose for you? Several factors could be contributing to it. Do you normally suffer from migrains, and if you do, do you know what can trigger them? [Lust After Me](https://phera.com/product/lust-after-me/) is scented with ylang ylang so maybe if you haven’t worn it it could give you a headache, but when people complain it’s mostly 'cause they don’t like the smell. Nah, it ain’t the cops…it’s the a-Androstenol. Common reactions can be quite a buzz, at first, that can include headaches…till you get a little more used to it. It should taper off with more frequent use. If not then maybe, for you, it’s too much a-Androstenol. Hope that helps. 🙂 Bella ---
**Author:** ![TiggerBear](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tiggerbear/32/1813_2.png) [@TiggerBear](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TiggerBear)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2008, 1:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/29 "2008-03-07T01:10:11Z")
Ariadne, Jeez, I don’t remember exactly where I saw that article. I think it was a forum member’s post in the research section. Basically, people choose partners based on MHC (major histocompatibility) factors (pheromones come into play here too)… we don’t want someone who has too many MHC factors in common with us - that’s like sleeping with/marrying your brother. Then again, we don’t want someone who has too few MHC factors in common with us - too far removed genetically/culturally. This stuff goes way back into theory of survival of the fittest, even! Anyway, when a woman is on the pill, it tricks her body into thinking it’s pregnant, and therefore in a more vulerable state. In this state, she subconsciously chooses men more “family-like” & “protector-like” by choosing those with more MHC factors in common with her than she’d normally choose. So, what’s the problem with that, you ask? Studies have shown that couples with too many MHC factors in common are much more likely to cheat on each other (both the men and the women) and they have an very high probability of not lasting as a couple when she comes off the pill & realizes she’s chosen the wrong person. This is all subconscious, you understand. Anyway, the researchers highly recommend you use another form of birth control when searching for a significant other. Interesting stuff, huh?? 😮 ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2008, 3:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/30 "2008-03-07T03:46:36Z")
20X cops LAM first day report time! First thing this morning: 2 drops of LAM (unscented) smeared all over wrists and neck 1 spray IS double strength (unscented) to my hair 1 spray IS/B splite between the wrists 1 spray IS/B to the back of the neck 1 spray IS/B to the my hair My IS/B is coconut scented, but it _did not even_ _attempt_ to cover the smell of the _unscented_ (hehe) LAM. It’s not a bad smell, just strange and weirdly pervasive. A friend, upon discovering the scent was emanating from me, said “so you’re what I’ve been smelling all day!” and then added “it’s not bad, but it’s nothing that would be bring me back to smell it again”. ☹ I felt extremely unnecessary all morning. Drunk/high without the mental confusion. The day started off with the same headache I experienced last night upon first application, but it wore off within an hour or so and has not resurfaced. Later in the afternoon I applied another drop of LAM, about an hour before a meeting I was scheduled to attend. Once the meeting began, I unfortunately became aware that I was going to be the only female in attendance. I wanted a bit of a buffer in at least one other female so the smell could not be blamed on me alone, but oh well. **My experiences wearing 1 drop of LAM 20X cops as the sole female in a room full of men:** Most wouldn’t meet my eye, including the guy heading the meeting, even though he was sitting across the table from me. The man sitting next to me mirrored me throughout the entire meeting, even up to spinning his chair from side-to-side. The guy on the other side of me lost his train of thought every time he was called on to answer questions. Another guy down the table from me was very talkative with me and referred to me several times even though it wasn’t really necessary to the topic at hand. Immediately after the meeting, I ran into G, who once again gave me the raised eyebrows/widened eyes look. This isn’t the quick raising of the eyebrows, but the look lasts a full one or two seconds. I’m not sure how to decipher this look, other than to attribute it to flirting. I was feeling somewhat dazed/drunk, so my eyes were half-lidded and my smile in return was crooked I’m sure. About an hour ago I decided to try one drop LAM mixed with one drop BPAL’s “Snake Oil”, and here it is! Something that covers that dang smell completely! I’m waiting for my order from MMU so I can try Pink Clouds’ ability to mask. ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2008, 3:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/31 "2008-03-09T15:35:41Z")
You know how some people just love the smell of markers–or gasoline? They can huff away with a little smile on their face. And others don’t have that reaction at all? “Gasoline smells terrible!” I think cops are like that. The majority of men react like the marker/gasoline huffers. Most women, and a few men, are more like, “What’s that smell?” Men get a buzz off the scent that makes it smell good to them. ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 6:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/32 "2008-03-12T06:50:48Z")
> [@ariadne](#): > > **My experiences wearing 1 drop of Lust After Me 20X cops as the sole female in a room full of men:** > _ **Most wouldn’t meet my eye** _, including the guy heading the meeting, even though he was sitting across the table from me. > **The man sitting next to me mirrored me throughout the entire meeting** , even up to spinning his chair from side-to-side. > _ **The guy on the other side of me lost his train of thought** _ every time he was called on to answer questions. > _ **Another guy** _ _ **down the table from me was very talkative with me and referred to me several times even though it wasn’t really necessary to the topic at hand.** _ Uh huh…when men smell cops it can be a beautiful/amusing/frightening, sometimes altogether, thing. Men really like to act on their feelings, especially this type of feeling…something to keep in mind when you’re wearing a lot of cops. In the work place they must exercise, at least, a modicum of control…but get 'em outside of the office?..could get really interesting. Not that you’re interested in these men outside of seeing how they react to your ‘experiments’…lol…and not that you’re interested in cleaning out your desk. Regardless you must be prepared to recieve this reaction, type of attention AND advances…'cause you gonna get it…_wherever_ you are. Not fer nothin’ but, personally, I would _never_ wear anything other than _extemely_ light cops in the work place. And out with Wolfie? Oh, I’m sure his reaction would be good 🙄 …in reaction to other men’s reactions to me wearing heavy cops…uh huh…frankly _I_ wouldn’t wanna be there for that…lol…mind you he’s _never_ had to punch somebody out, close a coupla times, maybe… but usually a look or two gets his message across LOUD AND CLEAR…lol. I’m not interested, nor do I wish to call attention to myself in that manner, especially around men I’m not _really_ attracted to…it’s bad enough as it is. I, myself, am uncomfortable…though used to 🙄…being around leering salivating men…it doesn’t make me feel desirable in the right way…it makes me feel like I want to wash off that look…like I got slimed…lol. ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 7:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/33 "2008-03-12T07:05:54Z")
> [@Kitten](#): > > _ **The majority of men react like the marker/gasoline huffers.** _ LOL…LOL…Wolfie was always a huffer…but now with [pheromones](https://a314.com/)…whew…cops, in particular 😛…_and_ the addition of LP oils…it’s kinda… I think I may need to get him a respirator…lol What’s more…and I would never admit this to _most_ people…I TOO AM A HUFFER!..there I said it…that freakin’ AMMO…oh and The Edge For Men…even just LP Excaliber or Ares…mmmmm…though not quite as huffy as him…you know how wolves can be. Frankly he’s blow my house down…more than once! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2008, 4:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/34 "2008-03-12T16:22:07Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > LOL…LOL…Wolfie was always a huffer…but now with pheromones…whew…cops, in particular 😛…_and_ the addition of LP oils…it’s kinda… > I think I may need to get him a respirator…lol Do you guys find the LP oils cover cops/stinky pheromones/[Lust After Me](https://phera.com/product/lust-after-me/) well? I’m having a real hard time finding something to cover the _unscented_ LAM I bought last week. The only thing I’ve found that does it is BPAL’s Snake Oil, and while it does cover, the combination of the two is way too overpowering to be used every day. By the way, just to clarify: without going into specifics, my workplace is very unique. Therefore I don’t really feel apprehensive about using pheros there. In another setting I definitely would. ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2008, 4:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/35 "2008-03-13T16:38:58Z")
Ooo! Try sugared honeycomb, Ariadne. That one is fast becoming a favorite for me. It definitely covers unscented Cougar and Super Sexy. So it could be great with cops. …For some reason, I’m more into the socials and EST these days…Prolly just a phase. ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 12:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/36 "2008-03-21T12:55:39Z")
> [@Kitten](#): > > Ooo! Try sugared honeycomb, Ariadne. That one is fast becoming a favorite for me. It definitely covers unscented Cougar and Super Sexy. So it could be great with cops. > > …For some reason, I’m more into the socials and EST these days…Prolly just a phase. Oooh, I will look into that! It sounds right up my alley as I am a huge fan of desserty/sweet scents! I really want to get my hands on some EST! I wish it came in To-Go bottles so I could try it out before investing $87. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 1:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/37 "2008-03-21T13:01:28Z")
Advice needed! So my TG at work has been shifted to my project. The pheros I’ve been using that seem to work well on him are Instant Shine, [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), IS/B, and MX135. The thing is… he’s got a reputation for being difficult to work with. I’d like to utilize pheros to keep him agreeable with me, to make him feel more “protective” of me than confrontational to get things done. Do you guys think I should stick with what I’ve been using or change/add anything else? PS: I just placed an order for some P83, P86, more MX135, and TAA. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2008, 6:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/38 "2008-03-22T18:12:41Z")
> [@](#): > > So my TG at work has been shifted to my project. The pheros I’ve been using that seem to work well on him are Instant Shine, Instant Honesty, IS/B, and MX135. The thing is… he’s got a reputation for being difficult to work with. I’d like to utilize pheros to keep him agreeable with me, to make him feel more “protective” of me than confrontational to get things done. Do you guys think I should stick with what I’ve been using or change/add anything else? I think your picks make perfect sense. [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) especially. The only thing I’d add from time to time would be a little TAL, either from IS/A, MX134, or straight TAL. That’s because sometimes you’ll want him to obey you and not _always_ try take the lead role over you. Since that could actually lead to conflict. TAL makes it easier for others to accept your authoritay when necessary. Course at other times, being a beta girl is exactly perfect. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2008, 2:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/39 "2008-03-23T02:00:40Z")
> [@Kitten](#): > > I think your picks make perfect sense. Instant Shine especially. The only thing I’d add from time to time would be a little TAL, either from IS/A, MX134, or straight TAL. That’s because sometimes you’ll want him to obey you and not _always_ try take the lead role over you. Since that could actually lead to conflict. TAL makes it easier for others to accept your authoritay when necessary. Course at other times, being a beta girl is exactly perfect. 😉 Thanks for the input, Kitten! I’m just afraid the TAL would put him on the offensive with me. He already has a bit of a complex about being listened to. I think if he felt he was being challenged by me, it could stir the urge to fight in him. This is what I want to avoid. I don’t exactly _mind_ it if he wants to take the lead role _over me._ Er… yeah… :o 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2008, 3:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/40 "2008-04-06T15:19:58Z")
I haven’t posted in a while, but I have quite a few reports to give when I have time! I’ve been extremely busy with work, so very little time to sit down and actually compose well thought out experiences. I just recently bought a big bottle of Sugared Honeycomb spiked with the Cuddle Bunny pheros and should be getting it this week! I can’t wait! 😃 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204.md?page=3)