# journal v2.0 **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Journals\ **Created:** [February 16, 2008, 5:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204 "2008-02-16T05:02:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 3:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/121 "2009-01-28T03:09:02Z")
Hey Ariadne, sounds to me like he’s into you, but kind of nervous or to intimidated to really let you know or pursue you, so he’s testing the water and hoping that you’ll make the first move or at least give him the green light that you’re open to taking things to another level. His questions about your ex, taunting you about Mr. Darcy, having to sit next to you, the book conversation, the daily smell sessions and the flirting add up to make me think that he’s interested in more than just friendship with you. My suggestion: The next time you get to your desk and he’s already seated, walk over and drape an arm accross his shoulders and offer the other wrist, and ask him what he thinks of whatever phero/perfume combo you’re wearing. And as you do so, be sure to pay attention to the look in his eyes and his body language. And on to a question for you. Why are you limited yourself by saying that you want to find a nice straight laced older man? What if Mr. 23 Year Old turned out to be a totally different guy outside of work and happened to be everything you ever wanted, but you missed out on seeing it because you’re set on finding an older guy? I’ve known 20 year olds that were mature far beyond their years, and 40 year olds that were completely immature and irresponsible. And most importantly and as I told you the other day, STOP LOOKING! First of all, if you’ve made up you’re mind that you want to find somebody and are actively looking, you will tend to settle, just to have what you think you want. Second, when you’re actively looking for a relationship there’s none to be found, at least none worthy of being in. And to repeat myself once more: It’s really only when you are content in being alone and realize that you don’t need somebody else to complete you, but might enjoy having someone around who compliments you, that you’ll find that special someone. ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 5:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/122 "2009-01-28T05:06:06Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > My suggestion: The next time you get to your desk and he’s already seated, walk over and drape an arm accross his shoulders and offer the other wrist, and ask him what he thinks of whatever phero/perfume combo you’re wearing. And as you do so, be sure to pay attention to the look in his eyes and his body language. Hmmm, I’m not sure if this might be “too much”, but I will think about doing this if I see the right opportunity. > [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > And on to a question for you. Why are you limited yourself by saying that you want to find a nice straight laced older man? > What if Mr. 23 Year Old turned out to be a totally different guy outside of work and happened to be everything you ever wanted, but you missed out on seeing it because you’re set on finding an older guy? Well, that was more of a joke aimed at Bella, but I guess I am somewhat limiting myself. Specifically, I don’t think this guy is mature enough to handle being everything I ever wanted. I don’t think he’s the right type. He’s the type to have some temporary fun with, but not long term. At least, that’s the impression I have of him now, but it could change. He talks a lot about how great it is to live with his parents because he doesn’t have to cook or clean, for starters. 🙄 > [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > And most importantly and as I told you the other day, STOP LOOKING! First of all, if you’ve made up you’re mind that you want to find somebody and are actively looking, you will tend to settle, just to have what you think you want. Second, when you’re actively looking for a relationship there’s none to be found, at least none worthy of being in. > > And to repeat myself once more: It’s really only when you are content in being alone and realize that you don’t need somebody else to complete you, but might enjoy having someone around who compliments you, that you’ll find that special someone. I know this, and it’s all true: it’s how I’ve been until very recently. I’ve hit that stage where I’ve decided it’s time to start looking in earnest for someone to settle down with, in the type of relationship I want, and of course it’s nowhere to be found. So yeah, I know what you are saying, but as far as women are concerned, if you’re not on the lookout, then it passes you by and then BAM! You’re too old. At least that’s how it feels. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 5:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/123 "2009-01-28T05:20:10Z")
Well ari, he’s definitely into you, no question. I couldn’t agree more with Mark. Gotta say cowboy, you nailed it from every angle. 😉 You’re not much older than Mr. 23 Year Old and who knows, as cowboy said, he might be …well…ya never know. Believe me I understand the appeal of older men. The operative word being…_men_..ahem. I also know some mature young men. All he may need is a little encouragement. Mr. 23 Year Old can’t relax with you at work. If you want to pursue it make a move, like Mark said… \* sniff \*.. \* sniff \*…see how he reacts and you can probably take it anywhere you want it to go. He’s asking about your living arrangements because he’s wondering who you live with…your parents, roomies? Where are the two of you gonna do it? I wonder what his living arrangements are? He may have roomies too. You could invite him over to view your…_books!_ 🙂 If Wolf dropped dead I’d have np dating younger men. Of course, that said, I’m a lot older than you. A _younger_ man for me would still be a _older_ man for you…lol. 😃 I’d hate to miss someone great because I narrowed the field too far, so to speak. I don’t consider it a waste of time to spend time with someone I have no intention of getting serious with. I just look at it as fun getting to know someone. When it doesn’t work out I’m not disappointed 'cause I never saw him as a true romantic interest/LTR in the first place. Now the only time ya run into trouble here, is if you and he aren’t on the same page about this. _And_ you always run the risk of one falling for the other. Stranger things have happened. BTW, the photo of that hot guy you said was just your type…the one in my journal? He dun look too _older_ to me. There’s nothing wrong with wanting what you want or going after it. Don’t worry so much about finding Mr. Right. You _know_ you can’t make it happen. Take what opportunities you can when they present themselves. It never hurts to keep your eyes open. I even once met a nice guy at the _Laundromat._ 😮 I know. Let yourself live in the moment more and enjoy it. If you think Mr. 23 Year Old is worth pursuing, even just for fun…why not? He obviously likes you, You’re interested in him. You’re whackin’ the hell outta him with the pheromones. Go for it. Be gentle. 😃 …about poor Darcy, bowing from the waist…lol 🆒 …you’re a slayer. Reps. 😉 Keep us posted. Bella ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 5:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/124 "2009-01-28T05:29:37Z")
Mkay, I think we were posting at the same time. You just answered my question about his living arrangements. Be that as it may, it doesn’t mean he’s off limits. It means he’s probably not mature enough for you, maybe not even to play with. However, you could pursue it to the point of seeing more of who he is and if that proves to be the case you can back it off. More than one person has started a flirtation…tested the waters…got ankle deep…and backed out fast, myself included. 😉 And there is no giving up! You just need to give yourself a break and take some of the pressure off for a while. Maybe a yoga class, don’t laugh, you might meet someone very flexible there. 😛 So, you think I like straight laced older men? Oh chica, are you in for a treat…keep your eyes peeled…coming soon. Bella ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 3:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/125 "2009-01-29T03:22:08Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > So, you think I like straight laced older men? Oh chica, are you in for a treat…keep your eyes peeled…coming soon. Haha! No, not really, just a jab in reference to your “missionary” statement from earlier. So today, Mr. Darcy and I were having a bit of a tête-à-tête in the back of the building. It wasn’t intensely private and was really about work, but if someone were to walk in at the wrong time, they might get a bad idea about what was transpiring. Wellllll… of course someone did. Who was that? Mr. 23 Year Old! _facepalm_ About ten minutes later I ran into him again with another coworker. Mr. 23 YO said “what was going on back there? Did I interrupt you two having _a moment_?” I turned really red and acted a bit shocked and said “AUGH! _ **No** _!” He laughed a bit and turned slightly pinker than normal, and our conversation (thankfully) strayed away from it. Ugh, this slightly bothered me for the rest of the night. I wasn’t sure how to read it: was he trying to be funny, poking fun? Was he trying to test me to see what I’d say? Was he being malicious? Mr. 23 YO isn’t really a malicious guy at heart, but I know how guys can be when they think a girl they like is being slutty and the sluttiness is not directed _at them_. ☹ Another funny thing that happened later in the break room: Mr. 23 YO kept leaning back in his chair, and his buttoned-down shirt kept riding up over his pants waist so I could see his furry belly. 😛 (He doesn’t tuck his shirts into his pants, that rebel.) I wanted to make a comment about it, or poke him a la The Pillsbury Doughboy, but other people were around and I thought that might be too flirtatious. :o What was I wearing today?: Five sprays MX282 to the hair Two sprays P86 @ 25mcg to the hair One quick shot of Pink Sugar split between the wrists ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 3:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/126 "2009-01-29T03:23:10Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > …about poor Darcy, bowing from the waist…lol 🆒 …you’re a slayer. I _ **do** _ try! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/127 "2009-01-30T16:20:30Z")
> [@ariadne](#): > > I wanted to make a comment about it, or poke him a la The Pillsbury Doughboy, but other people were around and I thought that might be too flirtatious. :o [http://democomputer.com/forum\_images/Pilsbury](http://democomputer.com/forum_images/Pilsbury) boy.gif ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/128 "2009-01-31T16:14:43Z")
Hahaha, Mark! I think he would just laugh and make a joke about how hairy he is. He constantly has some sort of beard growing, and I’ve made comments before about how he looks better shaved, or at least trimmed close. The first time I said this, he told me it was hard to maintain that because his hair grows so fast that he’d have to shave twice a day. I did recently notice that he’s been keeping it short rather than letting it grow to Grizzly Mountain proportions, however. 😉 He sang a bit of “All You Need is Love” for me yesterday! 😮 ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 3:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/129 "2009-02-07T15:50:20Z")
I wanted to post this song by the Talking Heads, but unfortunately they don’t have an official video for it. A search on youtube just comes up with a bunch of people taking the lyrics extremely literally, as you can see. Enjoy! 😉 https://www.youtube.com/embed/hvZO7rNn_VM?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/130 "2009-02-07T19:46:05Z")
That was adorable. 🙂 What a cute sleep deprived little fella! That’s what happens when you’re _so_ adorable… people can’t leave you alone. I like to keep _my baby_ up all night long, too 😃…only he’s a little older…and has a goatee…lol. Bella ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 10:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/131 "2009-02-07T22:12:19Z")
BELLA! Welcome back! > [@Bella](#): > > I like to keep _my baby_ up all night long, too 😃…only he’s a little older…and has a goatee…lol. Haha, and that’s the actual point of that song. It’s not about an actual baby, although most people tend to think it is. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 11:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/132 "2009-02-07T23:06:53Z")
> [@ariadne](#): > > _ **BELLA! Welcome back!** _ Thanks, ari! I’ve been poking in and out but I’ve been so busy I haven’t had the chance to post much lately. Christ, the boys are having a party in the Ballroom and I haven’t even been _there_ yet! Hank’s been busy keeping things in order…cleaning up. Bless his heart. 😉 Bond showed up with chicken wings and I heard that sexy cowboy is bringing over a keg …_and some girls._ 😃 Sounds like the dusting is about to commence. Care to join me? Are you in the mood to be cleaned up? We’d better hurry before all the feather dusters are handed out. 😛 If we don’t… that means renny will be chasing us with his air compressor 😮…that is, if he ever got it back from Kitten. 🙄 > [@](#): > > _ **Haha, and that’s the actual point of that song. It’s not about an actual baby, although most people tend to think it is.** _ 😉 I showed the vid to Wolfie and he really thought it was about a baby. LOL! Duh. 😛 Bella ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 2:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/133 "2009-02-14T02:18:06Z")
I seem to have made myself addictive over the past few months. It’s not really a situation I’m enjoying all that much. One guy has a torrid love/hate thing going for me (and I’ve never done anything to him to warrant the hate, other than turn down his sexual advances) and another _cried…_ over something… not worth crying over. _ **At work.** _ Ugh, I can’t go into specifics, but seeing a grown man cry in the workplace over you does not make a woman feel good, if she has a heart. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Smelly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smelly/32/918_2.png) [@Smelly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smelly)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 2:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/134 "2009-02-14T02:32:59Z")
> [@ariadne](#): > > I seem to have made myself addictive over the past few months. It’s not really a situation I’m enjoying all that much. One guy has a torrid love/hate thing going for me (and I’ve never done anything to him to warrant the hate, other than turn down his sexual advances) and another _cried…_ over something… not worth crying over. _ **At work.** _ Ugh, I can’t go into specifics, but seeing a grown man cry in the workplace over you does not make a woman feel good, if she has a heart. ☹ Yikes, ari! Sounds like it’s time to lay off anything remotely sexual and go straight to the socials… 😮 ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 3:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/135 "2009-02-14T03:11:54Z")
> [@Smelly](#): > > Yikes, ari! Sounds like it’s time to lay off anything remotely sexual and go straight to the socials… 😮 No doubt! ☹ ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 1:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/136 "2009-02-20T01:31:15Z")
I just posted this here ([Describe your dream MX: what would it do?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/describe-your-dream-mx-what-would-it-do/26243)), but I thought I would pop it in over here as well. > [@Describe your dream MX: what would it do?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/describe-your-dream-mx-what-would-it-do/26243/5): > > I want a mix that will give me vibes that say stunning, sexy, sexual and soulmate…with a sociable twist 🙄 > > A mix that basically makes him an absolute horndog but still wanting a LTR, not a ONS… 😃 Impossible? I’ve been working on something along these lines over the past week. I think I mentioned it in another thread? It’s: [EST](https://phera.com/) @ 50mcg P86 @ 25mcg [TAH](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) @ 30mcg [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) 4X (one spray) cops I’ve tried both LAM and a honey/cops oil from the other place. I get a lot more touchy-feely/lovey-dovey hits off of the combo using the honey/cops than I do using LAM, for some reason. The LAM brings on the drool, Tex Avery’s zoot suit wolf-style, almost to the degree that the EST is negated. I think I might try this with betanol instead of IH. ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 5:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/137 "2009-02-20T05:38:38Z")
I forgot to add to the above post: I was wearing this mix today, and my newest maybe-TG walked behind me, past my desk, and hit me on the back of the shoulder with something. I turned and said “what did you hit me with??” as he walked by. He turned and said in a mock-shocked voice “hit you?? I didn’t hit you! You are always dreaming of imaginary hits!” and I had to laugh as the first thing that came to mind was “hits” as we know it here at PT. 😛 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 7:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/138 "2009-03-21T19:31:36Z")
1 drop LAM 20X cops + 1 spray neroli [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) + 3 sprays unscented IS/B + Pink Sugar cover = discounted eyebrow/eyelash tint and free brow wax! My waxer/esthetician is extremely reactive to pheros. I should take advantage of this, but I think today was only the second time I’ve worn them when I have an appointment with her. Both times she commented on how I smelled and both times gave me discounted as well as free services, for no reason! She’s a very nice lady, generally, but doesn’t go overboard unless there are chemicals involved. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/139 "2009-03-21T20:00:08Z")
> [@ariadne](#): > > _ **1 drop LAM 20X cops + 1 spray neroli Instant Shine + 3 sprays unscented IS/B + Pink Sugar cover = discounted eyebrow/eyelash tint and free brow wax!** _ > > _ **My waxer/esthetician is extremely reactive to pheros. I should take advantage of this, but I think today was only the second time I’ve worn them when I have an appointment with her. Both times she commented on how I smelled and both times gave me discounted as well as free services, for no reason! She’s a very nice lady, generally, but doesn’t go overboard unless there are chemicals involved.** _ 😛 Freebies!!! Yeay!!! 😃 My hairdresser/waxer has really loosened up since I started whackin’ her with pheromones. The last two times I went she waxed a little area no charge and gave me a bottle of lotion to use after the waxing. 🆒 (I wore Scent of Eros/w, TAA, P74 and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/).) Though it may have something to do with the 20 bucks I tip her. I can tell ya there’s a lotta laughter that comes from the waxing room when she and I are in there tearin’ it off. Sometimes when we come out the other girls look at us like 🙄…what the heck is goin’ on in there!? Heh, sure…we were just dishing _you guys!_ 😛 _Bella_ ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 9:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204/140 "2009-03-28T21:41:34Z")
A trick of the eyes… You know how you always hear that larger pupils make a woman seem more beautiful, more in love, etc? This is why romantic dinners are set by candlelight and such, and there’s no way to replicate this outside of being in dim light. Yes ladies, there is. It’s called having your pupils dilated at the ophthalmologist… just kidding! Although that would work, too, any time I have had this done I’ve been so sick and unable to see straight that I wouldn’t imagine being able to benefit from it. ☹ Anyway, a little thing called [Bausch & Lomb Opcon-A](http://www.bausch.com/en_US/consumer/visioncare/product/drops/opcon_a.aspx) does the trick. It’s an allergy relief eye drop, and it slightly dilates the pupils. You can get it in any pharmacy section in the US, over the counter. I realize I am recommending trying a drug product for something, ah, _recreational_, but a drop or two in each eye every now and then isn’t going to hurt. I wouldn’t overdo it, certainly, and not when you are going to be in direct sunlight for long periods of time. I’ve used it a handful of times, and it’s always had my TG of the moment staring into my eyes. 😉 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journal-v2-0/9204.md?page=6)