# Journey to become an Alpha **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [October 15, 2012, 11:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journey-to-become-an-alpha/57040 "2012-10-15T23:53:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![SomeoneOrNot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someoneornot/32/205_2.png) [@SomeoneOrNot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeoneOrNot)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2012, 11:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journey-to-become-an-alpha/57040/42 "2012-11-26T23:21:25Z")
Oh _this_ is your journal? I always dug the title but hadn’t checked it out yet. _subscribed_ ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2012, 8:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journey-to-become-an-alpha/57040/43 "2012-11-27T20:12:39Z")
**Date:** Tuesday, November 27, 2012 **Pheros:** [P75@2.5mcg](mailto:P75@2.5mcg), [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/)@15mcg \*\*Dosage: **2 Sprays P74 , 1 Spray P75 \*\* Application Points:** P74 =Right and Left of neck, P75=Adams apple \*\*Environment: **College Gym \*\* Overview:** As I said I was testing this mix out again because the girl was going to workout with us again and she did. Not sure if it did anything to be honest, I wasn’t paying attention a whole lot since I was trying to train my friend and focus on my own workout at the same time but she did seem to talk more. Asking me what I was going to school for a lot of smiling at me, asked what my ab workout was(I was talking to my friend and she was kind of interrupting so I didn’t get to answer her question.) Tomorrow I think I will do the same mix with a spray of chikara to give it that sexual kick since it will be the last time I see her until I am down to lift again. So if all goes well I will help her with her workouts a little and tell her to get my number from my friend and she can call me if she needs help and I can get ahold of her to workout when I am in town, that is if I don’t puss out. ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2012, 9:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journey-to-become-an-alpha/57040/44 "2012-11-28T21:02:55Z")
**Date:** Wed, November 28, 2012 **Pheros:** P75 @2.5mcg, [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) @15mcg, Chikara **Dosage:** 2 Sprays P74 , 1 Spray P75, 1 spray chikara **Application Points:** P74 =Right and Left of neck, P75 =Adams apple, chikara=upper chest **Environment:** College Gym & Subway \*\*Overview:\*\*Well the girl that had been working out with us didn’t come today so that was a bummer. We walked through the gym while the girls basketball team was practicing and I did get some glances as they were by us lined up by the water fountain, one making an effort to say hi to my friend I’m thinking so I would look at her but I didn’t even glance. At subway there is a new college girl working and I noticed a ton of looks and a lot of smiles almost every time she looked which was a lot. She did seem to look at me more than anyone else in there and made eye contact with me on more than one occasion when we were sitting in a group and she was at the other table on break, she had to actually turn to look at me but did and more than once. She does have a BF so I didn’t pursue but know I was getting tons of IOI’s from her. Hopefully can get some where with the girl we have been working out with sometime, but I live 2 hours away and am headed home tomorrow and won’t be back for awhile. ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 2:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journey-to-become-an-alpha/57040/45 "2012-11-30T02:44:26Z")
**Date:** Thursday, November 29, 2012 **Pheros:** P75 @2.5mcg, Chikara **Dosage:** 1 Spray P75, 1 Spray Chikara **Application Points:** P75=Adams apple, chikara=upper chest **Environment:** College Gym **Overview:** Well I am kind of mad at myself today because she did come workout with us and I made eye contact with her a ton and noticed her glancing but again was caught up with working out and didn’t look for dilated pupils. If I think about it now I am thinking they were but when I get back in town hopefully next week I will do my workout before I come help them so I can pay attention and look for IOI’s. We did talk a little bit more today but I have been working out with her for 3 days now so that’s mostly why but she was a little bit more playful towards me I did notice. Like she mentioned something about her arms and I laughed a little bit and she had a big smile and said “Don’t make fun of me” but held eye contact after she said it and kept smiling for a good 5 seconds. Overall it was decent and I am hoping I can get in town next week to do some more testing on her while I can actually pay attention. I’m still not sure if she is attracted but like I mentioned earlier when my friend showed her a picture of me mentioning me doing modeling she asked for my contact information saying her cousin did it but he didn’t give it to her. IMO she was just trying to get my number but I could be wrong. Either way I am hoping she is attracted, she isn’t the type I would see somewhere and think she is super hot etc but she is cute and after just being around her for the last 3 days only for a couple hours at a time I find myself wanting to get in a relationship with her. Plan next time is to try P75, SE Ammo, and Mx297 on her and see how that goes. ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 5:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journey-to-become-an-alpha/57040/46 "2012-11-30T05:36:00Z")
Ballzan time for some tough love, if you really like this girl you have got to start showing her that you are interested, the more times you meet her and don’t try and escalate the closer you are getting to the friend zone and believe me once your there it is almost impossible to get out. The fact that she asked your friend for your digits after only seeing your photo shows that she is atleast attracted to you physically, now all you have to do is show her how much of a great guy you are, stop being a pussy and looking for signs of attraction and just assume she likes you, get her number or give her yours and ask her out on a date, it is really that simple, I know it can be really nerve racking but what’s the worst that can happen, if she says no then its her loss, women are attracted to confidence FACT. Whether you take my advice is up to you, but wouldn’t you rather take the chance and her say no then be left wondering what could of been if you’d only had the Balls to ask her out. ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 8:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journey-to-become-an-alpha/57040/47 "2012-11-30T08:31:46Z")
> [@THE\_GHOST](#): > > Ballzan time for some tough love, if you really like this girl you have got to start showing her that you are interested, the more times you meet her and don’t try and escalate the closer you are getting to the friend zone and believe me once your there it is almost impossible to get out. The fact that she asked your friend for your digits after only seeing your photo shows that she is atleast attracted to you physically, now all you have to do is show her how much of a great guy you are, stop being a pussy and looking for signs of attraction and just assume she likes you, get her number or give her yours and ask her out on a date, it is really that simple, I know it can be really nerve racking but what’s the worst that can happen, if she says no then its her loss, women are attracted to confidence FACT. > > Whether you take my advice is up to you, but wouldn’t you rather take the chance and her say no then be left wondering what could of been if you’d only had the Balls to ask her out. I actually agree with you 100% on this! The plan was to play it smooth next time I see her. I am buying her a electric fat caliper for like 40 bucks because she mentioned wanting one so I will just tell her instead of paying she has to be my guinea pig for a new girl workout routine and I will give her my number at that time to play it off well. Problem with me just diving in and her saying no is she worked out with us 3 out of the 4 times I was there so I don’t want it to be awkward when I come to town to train my friend and she is working out with us. ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 8:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journey-to-become-an-alpha/57040/48 "2012-11-30T08:34:42Z")
**Date:** Thursday, November 29, 2012 **Pheros:** [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) @2.5mcg, P74@15mcg, IS 2x **Dosage:** 1 Spray P75 , 2 Sprays P74, and 2 sprays IS **Application Points:** P75=Adams apple, P74=Left and right side of neck, IS=Inside of elbows and upper chest **Environment:** The Gym \*\*Overview:\*\*Well I’m finally back home for a few days so I was lifting at my usual gym, no girls were there today but one older lady so I didn’t even pay attention to her, I had a lot of guys watching me do my workouts but other than that not much happened. Gym is a terrible testing ground as I know but all I have for now until I turn 21! ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 8:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journey-to-become-an-alpha/57040/49 "2012-11-30T08:49:40Z")
> [@ballzan](#): > > I actually agree with you 100% on this! The plan was to play it smooth next time I see her. I am buying her a electric fat caliper for like 40 bucks because she mentioned wanting one so I will just tell her instead of paying she has to be my guinea pig for a new girl workout routine and I will give her my number at that time to play it off well. > > Problem with me just diving in and her saying no is she worked out with us 3 out of the 4 times I was there so I don’t want it to be awkward when I come to town to train my friend and she is working out with us. Dude why would she say no, your ripped as fuck, good looking( no homo )and from what Iv read in your journal you seem like a cool down to earth guy, have a little faith in yourself man. If for some crazy reason she does say no then next time you see her act like nothings happend it will only get awkward if you let it. 🙂 Good luck ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2012, 6:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journey-to-become-an-alpha/57040/50 "2012-12-02T18:44:43Z")
**Date:** Sat, December 1, 2012 **Pheros:** [P75@2.5mcg](mailto:P75@2.5mcg), IO, IH2x(Gym Mix). [P75@2.5mcg](mailto:P75@2.5mcg), P74@15mcg, and SE Ammo(Mall mix) **Dosage:** 1 Spray P75, 2 Sprays IO, 2 Sprays IH(Gym Mix). 1 Spray P75, 2 Sprays P74, and 1 Spray SE Ammo(Mall mix) **Application Points:** P75=Adams Apple, IH Left of neck, IO right of neck(Gym) P75=Same, P74=Left and Right of neck, SE Ammo=Upper Chest(Mall) **Environment:** State Gym and Mall **Overview:** So we went to they gym first and I applied the mix, I usually workout at anytime fitness because it is close to my apt but I decided to go to the big University Gym with my friend this time(different gym and different friend from last posts). Being Saturday there weren’t a whole lot of girls but twice as many that are ever at AF. A few hot blondes and a really hot brunette girl were there. So first thing I notice is the really hot brunette that is working out fairly close to us, I kept getting glances from her the whole time she was over by us which was a good 10-20min. She would turn around and look back, glance out of the corner of her eye etc. Didn’t talk to her because she had headphones in and I was with my friend. After that 2 blonde girls were in the area we were in(we were doing legs so we decided to walk a lap to get maximum blood pumping into them before the next exercise) one of them was decent but the other wasn’t attractive at all. Me and my friend walk by them to go back to our area about 4 feet away from them. My friend was being my lookout for IOI’s since he knew I had pheros on and I was wearing a cut off shirt so he wanted to see how they reacted to that along with pheros. As we walk past my friend watches them and i was looking ahead, he said one looked back at the other smiled and the other one nodded and smiled all wide eyed. After that they kept looking at me and would go talk to eachother and giggle like little kids. In this case, I didn’t want to talk to them, not near attractive enough to make an effort, would have been nice to them if they talked to me or something but wasn’t going to initiate. Last girl was a hot blonde on the treadmill, I don’t recall getting in range for the pheros to work and probably most of them were wore off through sweat by this point so probably wouldn’t have mattered. I noticed when we were walking on the track that she kept glancing at me as we would walk by and do it multiple times and then she saw us walk back to where we were working out and would glance over there once and a while. After finishing legs we went back to the track and after the first lap I saw her look over to where we were and then start looking around a little bit because we had moved. My friend didn’t believe me when I said she would look over every lap, so I got him paying attention but near the end of the lap she does it and he wasn’t paying attention and was joking with me saying I was making it up but 30 secs after the first glance she looked again and he says “Oh there it was and I thought you were lying” and laughs. Didn’t talk to her either though but that was just because she was on a treadmill and I pussed out. **Mall Mix** Got a lot of looks at the mall but only a few hits that actually stood out. I am wearing a fairly tight hot pink hollister shirt, buckle jeans, and black Dr Martens just to set the stage, lol. First one was girl in Buckle. We walked in the guy says Hi to us so we greet him with a hi as well. We were really just messing around looking at shirts and stuff when the girl working walks over and asks us if we need help, we say no and that we were just looking at stuff. She was pretty attractive and the funny thing was when we said no just looking she doesn’t leave but sticks around to keep talking. She looks at the shirt my friend is looking at and rather than saying a lot of guys wear this one or this one is popular she says we have the same style over here and takes us to another section of shirts and starts pointing out the ones she likes. She is making eye contact with my friend while she is talking but no doubt I am the reason she came over but I was being kind of withdrawn and didn’t really open up and let the self effects of the mix hit me until about 20min in. P75 really shined here because of it’s magnetism effect and even my friend mentioned after we left in his exact words “Wow that was odd she was really sticking around us the whole time” About 10 min after is when I really started to get self effects and confident, fun attitude came through. We go into the Sports Page which is a sport clothing store. As we walk in both the girls look at us and kind of glance at eachother and smile, we actually walk behind the counter so her back was too us and she had a customer there but yet she still turns around to greet us, she wasn’t attractive but the other girl working was slightly. We were actually in the girls section because my friend was going to pay me to wear hot pink spandex, a girls hot pink tight shirt, and pink shoes to the University Gym when it was packed with people and have me out bench all the guys there just to see what happened so we were laughing our asses off and having a ton of fun while we were in there. The girls were watching us and had huge smiles on there faces the whole time and seemed really interested. After this experience we go to Rue 21 and there was a group of hot girls in there getting ready to check out as we get there but as my friend is trying on this leather coat being a geek I glance at the blonde at the perfect time as she is showing her friend this pink lace thong she was going to by and happens to glance at me around the same time and looks a little embarrassed but I just smiled and looked away because my friend was asking a question. Again P75 shines, I get in range of them for just a few seconds and keep in mind they were at the checkout but suddenly after they all pay for their stuff are all over by us sticking close giggling and trying on jewelry etc. After about 10min of this they finally leave as we do. Last good hit was a girl who was probably around 16-18 I would say so too young for me on the lower end but she was with her dad and little sister who looked to be around 12. She is on her cell talking to a friend and I come in range and walk past. After this I can tell the mix has done it’s work because she keeps walking past at this point for no logical reason and at one point she says something to her sister who is actually pushing her towards us but she never actually comes and says anything, and no way I was initiating for the risk she was 16 So a big post I know but a lot went on that night and had some fairly good hits. ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 2:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journey-to-become-an-alpha/57040/51 "2012-12-03T14:28:47Z")
**Date:** Monday, December 3, 2012 **Pheros:** P75 @2.5mcg, [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) @10mcg, IS 2x, TAC **Dosage:** 1 Spray P75 , 2 Sprays P74 , 1 Spray TAC, and 1 spray IS **Application Points:** P75 =Adams apple, P74 =Left of neck TAC= Right side of neck IS=Upper Chest **Environment:** The Gym **Overview:** Well back to lifting at Anytime Fitness like normal which is nice since I lift alone and can really stay focused on my routine, but the issue with this place is I have seen about 4 hot girls in there alone(never at one time) and it’s hard to estimate when they will be there, have seen 2 of them in there around 9am, same one around 3pm on saturday, and today one I have never seen around 2pm. I will start going in around 2 for awhile and see if more girls are in there around that time. First hit was actually from a guy and won’t really consider it a hit, I am usually the biggest guy at anytime and always the most ripped except for today there was a guy in there that was jacked. Thing I liked about him he was like the normal douches that are big wear tank tops(no big deal I wear them sometimes) but most the guys walk around like they are badasses when they aren’t. This guy was in a jacket arms which I gotta get me one like it because it make him look really good and that’s coming from a straight guy but anyway he was just super cool the whole time, came up and talked to me a little bit just in general making sure I was done with stuff before he just started to use it etc so I actually think the mix helped there. Second hit was from a really hot blonde girl who seemed to have low self esteem. She was on the elliptical at first and I would notice in the mirror that she kept glancing over at me, I eventually move to the ab bench right beside the elliptical and I am taking a break sitting on it and she looks at me using the mirror and makes eye contact but quickly looks away. Then not more than 10 sec later as I am doing my situps as I go up I look in the mirror and she is looking down at me for about 2-3 seconds, this keeps happening the whole time. Now how she was acting is why I said low self esteem, every time I would catch her looking she would quickly look away and kinda look down for a second when she did, then a another girl around our age comes in and she is over by the treadmill getting ready to get on it but looks over at this girl who has an amazing body but her face wasn’t even remotely attractive as in I saw her from the side even after I knew she was in there and thought another guy had walked in and then noticed it was her, terrible to say but it was true. Anyway so this other girl keeps looking at her and then doesn’t even get off the treadmill just goes over by the shelves where her stuff is and starts texting looking like she is going to leave the other girl walks by me and I don’t look at her at all and I assume my blonde saw this because she decided to stay and keep working out. So again the glances keep happening after this, then she goes to tan and we are leaving at the same time, she walks out first opens the door and walks out but stops dead as she is about 2 feet away from the door turns around and catches it to hold it open for me, coolest thing ever too but again the low self esteem thing seemed to be there didn’t really make eye contact but for a second and when I said thanks says a really quiet yes while looking at the ground. Next time I see her in there I am going to initiate conversation with her or atleast attempt to as shy as she seems to be it might not be easy to get her to talk, I am thinking IO, IH, and some P75 with IS ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 2:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journey-to-become-an-alpha/57040/52 "2012-12-04T14:49:01Z")
**Date:** Monday, December 3, 2012 **Pheros:** P75 @2.5mcg, [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) @15mcg, Chikara, P83@15mcg, and IO **Dosage:** 1 Spray P75 , 1 Sprays P74 , 1 Spray P83 , and 1 spray IO, 1 Spray Chikara **Application Points:** P75 =Adams apple, P74 =Left of neck P83 = Right side of neck Chikara=Upper Chest, IO wrists **Environment:** The Mall **Overview:** Well I waited to post this so can’t remember the exact mix just know forsure on the P74, P75, and P83. I had only ran P83 solo, ran it at 30mcg and only once. I had been doing some reading on posts and came across a thread with someone I believe Tisha Recommended someone throw in P83 to lower their own inhibitions as well as others so I decided to throw the P83 into my usual mix and wow! I can’t remember all the hits forsure but there were a few that stood out. One thing I do remember is how relaxed and secure I was feeling. I am normally the shy type but this time was super out going having a ton of fun and just laughing my ass off at all the dumb ideas we were coming up with while in the different stores and all the girls working were loving it. First we went into the buckle again and the girls there just kept glancing over and had them ask if we needed help multiple times while we were there. Number 2 was at the Hallmark, my cousin works there and I saw a blonde girl with glasses thinking it was her because I just glanced so I told my friends lets go say hi, we get in there it wasn’t her but she was smoking hot looks directly at me and smiles great big asking if we needed any help. So the whole time we were in there the blonde is looking in our direction and would occasionally go over and talk to the other girl working look our way look at eachother and start giggling. At one point we were looking at the ornaments and I saw a music sign it was a Treble Clef bright gold so I said we should buy it and get a big ass gold chain and have some bling, at this point the girls are trying not to crack up but we were all laughing the whole time. Last one was probably the best it was a sport clothing store so we decided to go in and check stuff out, 2 younger girls around 17-20 were working one super hot blonde and the other not so hot brunette. Both completely eye fucking me as we come in and the whole time we were in the store kept looking in our direction giggling. Best thing about this hit was as we came in and they got a wiff of the pheros I looked at them and smiled, instantly great big smile, eyes widen, and face turns bright red. Both my friends mentioned that when we left the store. Over all it was a good enough mix that I had to test it out again today. ---
**Author:** ![ckravitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d26b3c/32.png) [@ckravitz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ckravitz)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 3:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journey-to-become-an-alpha/57040/53 "2012-12-04T15:15:16Z")
Awesome journal! I will be getting p83 very soon, and I can’t wait. It seems to not only amplify the affects of the other [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) one wears, but cause people (especially girls) to act on their true feelings. Without p83, some girls may just sneak a glance at you and smile. But, with the putative, they’ll go up and talk to you. It seems like magic 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 3:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journey-to-become-an-alpha/57040/54 "2012-12-04T15:20:32Z")
**Date:** Tuesday, December 4, 2012 **Pheros:** P75 @2.5mcg, P74 @15mcg, IS, [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) @15mcg, and IO **Dosage:** 1 Spray P75 , 1 Sprays P74 , 1 Spray P83 , and 1 spray IO , 1 Spray IS **Application Points:** P75=Adams apple, P74 =Left of neck P83 = Right side of neck IS=Inside of elbow, IO wrists **Environment:** The Gym **Overview:** I’m not going to give individual hits on this one because there weren’t any girls in the gym today, I was hoping for my super shy blonde to be there but she wasn’t. So again the self effects from this mix were the same as lastnight super open to talk, didn’t really care what anyone thought about etc. The cool thing about this one was I had guys coming up to talk to me asking if I was using machines and when I would be inbetween sets resting they would come up and ask if I was waiting for them or if i wanted to use it ect. Just doing anything to start conversation with me, and out of the 4 that did it only 2 were smaller than me, the other 2 were jacked but still super cool. One that did stand out was a guy I had talked to once came in near the end when I was going to leave and comes up says Hi and fist bumps me, only had talked to him once before for a few seconds but he seemed super eager to greet me. Will continue to test this mix both with NONE products outside gym and minus the NONE inside. ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journey-to-become-an-alpha/57040/55 "2012-12-04T15:21:57Z")
> [@ckravitz](#): > > Awesome journal! I will be getting p83 very soon, and I can’t wait. It seems to not only amplify the affects of the other pheromones one wears, but cause people (especially girls) to act on their true feelings. Without p83, some girls may just sneak a glance at you and smile. But, with the putative, they’ll go up and talk to you. It seems like magic 😃 Yea I am wishing I was wearing it when the shy blonde was in there along with some [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) to see if she would have opened up and talked to me more but hopefully I see her again to test it out on her. ---
**Author:** ![ckravitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d26b3c/32.png) [@ckravitz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ckravitz)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 3:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journey-to-become-an-alpha/57040/56 "2012-12-04T15:34:11Z")
> [@ballzan](#): > > Yea I am wishing I was wearing it when the shy blonde was in there along with some MX297 to see if she would have opened up and talked to me more but hopefully I see her again to test it out on her. Yeah, that would be very interesting to see. Can’t wait to see what happens 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 9:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journey-to-become-an-alpha/57040/57 "2012-12-06T21:18:52Z")
**Date:** Thursday, December 6, 2012 **Pheros:** P75 @2.5mcg, Mx297, P83 @15mcg, and SE Ammo **Dosage:** 1 Spray P75 , 1 Sprays Mx297 , 1 Spray P83 , and 1 Spray SE Ammo **Application Points:** P75 =Adams apple, Mx297 =Right of neck P83 = Left side of SE Ammo=Chest **Environment:** College Gym \*\*Overview:\*\*So I went back to “train my friend” but actually the main reason I came was to see the girl that lifts with us again. I have to say I love this mix as it makes me super confident and feel great. 80% of my approach anxiety and shyness around attractive girls goes out the window. So I get there in casual clothes, nice jeans, hot pink vneck shirts, DR. Martin shoes. She is in there so i’m helping my buddy and decide that I need to get changed so I can do my workout, I am the type that doesn’t like to undress around other guys even but not today, was about 6 people in this small gym and she was the only girl but I just take off my shirt and jeans so I’m in these tight black boxer briefs and I know she can see me in the mirror and I am talking to one of my friends, didn’t bother me at all which is due to this mix. So like said in other posts this girl has barley talked to me, we have said a few words to eachother but that was it. This is because we are both kinda shy I think, we would both openly talk to our mutual friend but not to eachother but this time was different. First she wants me to help her with her ab workout so I do and our friend had left to go fill up his water so we were talking a little bit then. After that I hear her ask my friend “Ask Casey what this is” but he doesn’t so she decides to, not a big deal but still better than last time. So after this I decided to help her bench, figured it was a good of time as any to talk to her. I help her out and am giving her pointers on her form and just giving her shit in general. I could tell that she wasn’t 100% comfortable pushing herself because she didn’t want me to see her struggle but I made her anyway and she looked super cute trying that hard. So again I make her go up in weight and at one point were both laughing our asses off, I started to laugh at her getting ready to bench and she starts laughing because I am and then at that point I am laughing at her laughing! So as she is benching I look at her eyes to check for pupil dilation I would say they were about the size of a Pea or a little bigger in this bright room and again got the eye watering IOI, my description of it [HERE.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/eye-watering-ioi/57411) After all this goes on my friend was telling me to come to their bon fire he is having tomorrow and I told him I had to go home since I worked and she instantly turns around and says where do you work and I could tell she was disappointed that I wasn’t coming. So after that I tell my buddy he should just come to Ames and bring some people and we will do our own thing, im turns around and says “I want to comes to Ames I love it!” So if that isn’t an IOI then I don’t know what is. So from there me and her were talking about parties up there etc for a little bit. So after this we all get ready to leave so I am switching back while she is on the phone trying to get the Keg figured out for the bon fire, she was turned around while I had my pants off but I was switching shirts and the whole time I had it off she was staring at my abs, not even trying to hide it. So we head out and that’s pretty much all that happened. Tomorrow I will get her number and say she should come up to hangout sometime. So overall a really great mix especially if you have already been around the girl and she has shown some IOI’s. Will have to wear the same one tomorrow and hope she is working out with us again. Here is picture I found that was close to her level of dilation when I looked. Not really sure how much they are suppose to be dilated to show attraction but seeing how we were in the gym with over head lights it wasn’t dark. Her’s might have been a tiny bit smaller but not much. [http://blog.lib.umn.edu/paldr001/myblog/11C104A1-F3CF-462A-84F3382580A3337F.jpg](http://blog.lib.umn.edu/paldr001/myblog/11C104A1-F3CF-462A-84F3382580A3337F.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![SomeoneOrNot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/someoneornot/32/205_2.png) [@SomeoneOrNot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SomeoneOrNot)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2012, 9:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journey-to-become-an-alpha/57040/58 "2012-12-06T21:56:58Z")
That’s a healthy level of dilation, all right. Particularly in a well-lit environment. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2012, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journey-to-become-an-alpha/57040/59 "2012-12-09T18:25:15Z")
**Date:** Sunday, December 9, 2012 **Pheros:** P75 @2.5mcg, Mx297, and P83@15mcg **Dosage:** 1 Spray P75 , 1 Sprays Mx297 , 1 Spray P83 , and 1 Spray SE Ammo **Application Points:** P75=Adams apple, Mx297=Chest P83 = Left side of **Environment:** Anytime Fitness **Overview:** Well my friend didn’t lift with me the day after so I didn’t get to see the girl again ☹. Today I am back home and worked out with a friend that I happen to work with so wore the same mix minus the Ammo. So today was actually a good day, there were about 4 girls in there worth looking at, one had a bad face but a great body. Kept getting looks from all of them constantly, they would be looking in the mirror looking at me, moving close to where I was working out etc, etc. The two hotter ones were actually doing this the most. Have been a little sick for the last couple of days so I took yesterday off from mones and working out, still a little stuffed up and coughing today so I didn’t approach any of the girls at the gym but hopefully I am 100% tomorrow and finally see the shy blonde again! ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 8:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journey-to-become-an-alpha/57040/60 "2012-12-10T20:48:49Z")
**Date:** Monday, December 10, 2012 **Pheros:** P75 @2.5mcg, Mx297, and [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) @15mcg **Dosage:** 1 Spray P75 , 1 Sprays Mx297 , 1 Spray P83 **Application Points:** P75=Adams apple, Mx297=Chest P83=Left side of **Environment:** Anytime Fitness \*\*Overview:\*\*Not much for girls there today so wasn’t the best place for testing. One older woman that didn’t show much interest was in there, good body, blonde probably 30s-40s can’t be 100% sure. However I hadn’t been in range of her the whole time so I walked by very slowly as I went to get my bag and suddenly like she had that look like she had just been snapped back into reality from a day dream and looked directly at me, sees me looking makes eye contact and looks away. I walk back by within about 5 min going the other way to fill up my water and she looks at me again this time longer because I wasn’t looking. So for her it was just a matter of getting her within range of the pheros to get a reaction from her, this was the only time she even looked up the whole time she had been in there too because I was paying attention so that was a cool feeling. Not the best testing grounds but good hit from the only girl there too. ---
**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2012, 9:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journey-to-become-an-alpha/57040/61 "2012-12-10T21:18:17Z")
**Date:** Monday, December 10, 2012 **Pheros:** P75 @2.5mcg, Mx297, SE Ammo, and P83 @15mcg **Dosage:** 1 Spray P75 , 1 Sprays Mx297 , 1 Spray P83, and 1 Spray SE Ammo **Application Points:** P75=Adams apple, Mx297=Right side of neck P83=Left side of, and SE Ammo=Upper Chest **Environment:** The Mall **Overview:** Well I believe this was either the first or second trial with this exact mix in the mall across the street from my house, which is usually my main testing ground for these types of mixes, not straight up sexual more social sexual and even single molecules. Anyway back on track here, it was a typical testing day with a few insignificant hits, went into the Sports Page to check out some gear like a heavy bag etc, 2 blondes working on slightly attractive and one not. The not attractive one has a huge smile as we walk in and the other one seemed a little more shy but I did notice she was paying a lot of attention to me and would make a point to look to find us everytime she would walk by and could tell she was eves dropping on our conversation which was okay with me but like I said insignificant hit. Here is the good one, this is pretty much a text book hit and probably one of the better ones I have had since using mones. So we walk into this store just because I saw a cute blond girl working, so she begins to approach us which is typical since we are trained to do this in most stores but this is where the experience turns into a hit. It’s me and my friend that go in she asks me if we needed any help but he wasn’t looking so he answers for me unintentionally and says no we are just looking around. **This** is where it gets good rather than leaving she takes a second to decided what she is going to do and starts telling us about the deal they are having, she starts out facing us like a normal employee would do but slowly turns and is standing beside me and keeps talking, she then closes the distance until we are side by side completely ghosting my friend at this point. Now when she is this close she is turning super red and is look straight ahead(I think the mones kicked in due to her getting close and blushing super hard so she was a little nervous and on edge) but she finally looks over at me, pupils dilated, eyes watering slightly, huge smile and making eye contact she finishes what she was saying, not even glancing at my friend, but then walks away. She looks over in our direction as we start to leave her face returned to normal color by this point 🙂 and she looks like she is going to come over and say something but changes her mind. I didn’t get her number because I felt if she turned any redder she would pass out from too much blood to her face 😃 but my friend needs applications so I will wear the same mix and go in while she is working so he can get one and maybe get it then. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journey-to-become-an-alpha/57040.md?page=2) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/journey-to-become-an-alpha/57040.md?page=4)