# justintime469 journey

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**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [February 20, 2015, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877 "2015-02-20T17:37:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 2:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/241 "2016-02-07T02:03:30Z")

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Yeah a few are on a P96 kick and I was reading brasiliera’s journal and thought I should try again. Now I meant to use some TUTH later on and with the wife I didn’t even get a chance to and wasn’t needed.

I tried 5 MCG TUTH/20 MCG TAC/30 MCG P96 and my 25% Hedione EO

I tried this at work for the hell of it. I am leaving this job soon to work for the county anyways and thought why not. So I wanted to see how the woman reacted at work that hit on me, but I didn’t get a chance to see her reaction as I had to start earlier and didn’t see her.

But what is interesting is the guys totally respected me and a few of them DIHL me to. I was kind of freaked out because these are straight men it was kind of creepy.

I think that this mix will be my super sexual mix from now on. It was hitting really hard for me.

With P96 at low doses it is more of a beautifier and higher it acts more on an emotional level. If you can find a balanced you can get both of these qualities out of it. I think somewhere between 20-40 MCG is where it is at. For me 30 MCG is perfect.

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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 4:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/242 "2016-02-07T04:22:50Z")

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Wow thank you for the nomination and i really hope my post helps others. I see a lot of others in the intro section that have the exact same issue and have a stale marriage.

I think P96 helps tremendously to connect with your spouse or anyone. I wish Androtics made a product based on P96.

I am trying to now finish up my report on my freebie AD sent P13… then i am going to test to test P7… for Conjurator.

I want to really thank everyone here. I make a lot of my mixes and test things a lot based on what i am seeing in other journals and i get a lot of ideas to.

If anyone has an idea or wants me to test anything or mix i am always down.

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**Author:** ![Pheronaut](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheronaut/32/1155_2.png) [@Pheronaut](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheronaut)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/243 "2016-02-07T16:59:40Z")

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wow you are experienced pher. user and I would like to ask you about using parfumes with pher. Does usage of parfumes provide an additional effects on pheromones, or is it just for scent.  
especially what about Aqua di gio, I used it once with pheromones last week, and I noticed something but i am not sure if effect was stronger…

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**Author:** ![brasileira](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f9b8f/32.png) [@brasileira](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/brasileira)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/244 "2016-02-07T17:19:19Z")

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Great report about P96! Very much worth a nomination! 🙂

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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 6:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/245 "2016-02-07T18:53:25Z")

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OH wow thank you. After reading your report and some other users testing like Jdub I thought I would try again as maybe I didn’t spend enough time with it.

With Cologne and EO scent is the key is the scent. You have to be careful as a lot of cheap colognes have antibacterial ingredients than can mess with your pheromones. But a good cologne can work to help diffuse the mones and it really is about experimenting.

With my EO(Essential Oils) I have to keep my app points separate from my mone app points. I find my EO Hedione Mix really helps with diffusion and how far my cloud gets.

With out it say with a Ammo mix I get 6-8 feet. With the EO I get about a 10 foot cloud. I can get this with Neroli scent phero mixes to. Sometimes I am finding the unique scent is just as important if not more important than the phero mix itself. The key I am finding is to get a nice unique scent you like and this by itself will draw people in.

Then when they are drawn in they tend to breath deeper and the pheromone mix will hit them even harder.

You have to find a scent you and others like because if they don’t like it they won’t get close and the whole cover scent benefit is lost.

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**Author:** ![Pheronaut](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheronaut/32/1155_2.png) [@Pheronaut](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheronaut)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/246 "2016-02-07T19:35:22Z")

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so your point is not to mix parfume and pheromone on the same spot?

I red somewhere that you can do it, but you have to apply parfume first and after it is dry you can apply pheromone on the same spot. what do you mean about that application?

(reason not to mix is that alkohol in parfumes destroys pheromones, reason to mix them after  
alkohols evaporating is usage a parfume as carrier)

I do not use parfumes every day but I have few bottles of good ones, so I am trying to investigate if it is more effective to use pheros with parfume somehow. My favorite which I have are Bvlgari Black, Dior Fahrenheit, Boss boss, Laroche Drakkar, Armani armani, also good ones Dawidoff cool water, CK one, Armani aqua di gioo, Polo

And as you said, after mixing pheros with Aqua di gio (on the same spots) I vas breathing it deeply and smell of parfume seemed deeper for me…

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**Author:** ![Pheronaut](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheronaut/32/1155_2.png) [@Pheronaut](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheronaut)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/247 "2016-02-07T19:58:57Z")

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also i can report when I use pheromone wo scent, some women start breathing deep in small distance under one meter of me even if there is no scent, they feel “something” 🙂 and it is always funny for me

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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/248 "2016-02-07T21:22:38Z")

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Oh I must have not explained to well sorry. You can use your cologne just fine with pheromones as long as it isn’t some cheap knock off stuff as they usually have ingredients in them that aren’t good.

You can spray your cologne over the pheromones. I have had better luck using cologne over the pheromones over using the cologne and then spraying the pheromones over that.

My EO mixes do have some things in them that have antibacterial properties so for that I have to keep the app point separate.

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**Author:** ![Pheronaut](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheronaut/32/1155_2.png) [@Pheronaut](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheronaut)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2016, 10:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/249 "2016-02-07T22:29:03Z")

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Understood, thanks. Your information makes me happy as I have just now ordered an unknown pheromones, which I try to use somehow in mix with my perfumes… I just posted information about that buy to the my journal.

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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 2:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/250 "2016-02-08T02:51:53Z")

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Small P96 update

Smellymen messaged me and it made me realize a few things. I never realized how often i really get hit on with P96. My wife pointed this out to me. What is happening is I am wearing it on my neck and i am getting self effects where i feel i am feeling like i a m just connecting with everyone.

I believe HankBuddy has had this same experience. After my wife pointed it out i see it now.

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 4:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/251 "2016-02-08T04:32:11Z")

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> [@Pheronaut](#):
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> wow you are experienced pher. user and I would like to ask you about using parfumes with pher. Does usage of parfumes provide an additional effects on pheromones, or is it just for scent.  
> especially what about Aqua di gio, I used it once with pheromones last week, and I noticed something but i am not sure if effect was stronger…

I think you’d do well to keep the colognes sprayed in different areas than the pheromones.  
Also, Acqua di gio is a good one, one of my favorites. And yes you likely will get much better results with this one because it contains a molecule called ‘Hedione’ which works quite well like pheromones do. If you go to the ‘theory’ section in the forum and read ‘the aftershave that turns women on’ you’ll see a great deal of info about it.

I personally like to keep nearly all colognes and pheromones sprayed at separate places.

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**Author:** ![Pheronaut](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheronaut/32/1155_2.png) [@Pheronaut](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheronaut)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 6:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/252 "2016-02-08T06:18:53Z")

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thanks, this was my question, if there is something special with Aqua di gio, I didnt know about that Hedion ingredient so i will find more infos about it.  
Actually I have these ones, do you know if some of them contains Hedione also?

- Bvlgari Black, Dior Fahrenheit, Boss boss, Laroche Drakkar, Armani armani,  
Dawidoff cool water, CK one, Armani aqua di gioo, Polo

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**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2016, 8:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/253 "2016-02-08T08:50:01Z")

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I don’t know actually, but personally I think you’d be better off just ordering hedione. It is fairly cheap, lasts a long time, and is very effective, probably much more so than in the amounts in the colognes.

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**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 1:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/254 "2016-02-14T13:28:17Z")

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**P13… Report**  
This is 5 MCG a spray 6% [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) and was the freebie and as always I report on it and want to thank Androtics for being an amazing company and this is the least I can do for them.

**Self Effects**

**5MCG** Slight Energy boost and confidence increases a little

**10MCG** energy increases more along with confidence. Now I feel sexier and like I am the man very large and in charge. I get a cool sexier vibe from this.

**15MCG** I am now really over the top here with confidence. I feel like I can go to any woman and get what I want from them this is how much confidence I have now. I feel like a boss and CEO drinking Champaign on a private jet. I feel so cool and like I am just styling in a custom made suit. I feel slightly connected to music to. This is just way over the top confidence here.

**20-25MCG** I have the same effects as I did at 15MCG just stronger. I am not finding a transition with this molecule. What I am getting though is like a brain glitch where sometimes I forget where I am at and see things move. I love the confidence, but there is a peculiar brain glitch with this molecule.

**Solo**

**Test 1**  
2 sprays on neck for 10MCG. Right away I get a confidence boost and fell like a CEO and feel good and like I am the coolest person in the world.

1st stop is Autozone. I walk in there and is a 50’s white woman there. She is checking me out when I get within 5 feet of here or so. I smile back and she blushes a little and then goes back to what she was doing. I grab what I need and then a different lady 30 Hispanic checks me out at the register. Nothing out of the ordinary with her.

2nd stop Lovely Wal Mart. I have to get some groceries and so I go to the milk aisle and there is a white 60’s man in front of where I need and he sees that I am looking at the milk and right away he apologizes and moves his cart and keeps apologizing to me. I say no worries and he overbearingly apologizes. I take this as a respect hit for sure.

Next section is the fruit aisle. I am looking for a good set of bananas and I go to grab the ones I want and there is a 50’s white heavy set woman that works there, and immediately she apologizes for being in the way. She wasn’t even really in the way at all. She asks me if I need anything or help with anything. I say no I have everything I need and smile and then go about my way.

I go to check out and there is a 20’s lady about a 7. I get a few IOI’s from here as she is swiping all the items at the register. I smile back at her and make small chat with her and then finally thank her and am on my way. So far I am thinking this is a status/respect molecule with a slight attraction factor to it.

**Test 2**

**2 sprays 10MCG**  
I went to meet a guy about buying his bedliner for my new truck. I get there and right away can tell it won’t fit. He gets out of his truck and notices to and then starts apologizing a lot and he is so sorry for wasting my time. I say no worries my man and it was right around the corner from where I lived and he drove an hour to meet me so I found this to be odd he would apologize for me meeting him 5 minutes away when he drove an hour to meet me.

It is super bowl Sunday so I am next to little ceasers pizza and I decide to grab a few for me and some of my friends. I get in the and there is a 20 white guy standing there and he is super eager to help me and I ask for 2 for there $5 pizzas and he is quick to get them and then asks is the anyway he can help me. I say no that is all. I pay for them and then right away he runs to the door to hold it open for me and then says you have a great day. Now there is at least 4-5 other customers standing inline he leaves there. I get in my truck and decide to just look at him and see how he reacts to other customers as I have a clear view of him from my truck. Now he doesn’t hold the door or really smile or anything with any other customers. So respect hit for sure here.

**Test 3**

**3 sprays to neck for 15MCG**  
Now this is important to note. The night before I was in a lot of pain so I took a 10MG Vicodin to help sleep. Why this is important to note is Vicodin lowers my testosterone levels and makes me kind of Beta big time for a few days normally. I go to work and I am getting respect and feel like a CEO. Everyone I come in contact with is holding the door for me and offering me things like a cigarette. I am feeling super confident here. What is weird is I was expecting my test levels to be lower and also my prostate to mess with me to. This is the first time ever that I feel an external source like this molecule may actually raise my test levels. I wish I could prove this as I am sure of this and am in complete shock. Now before the 15MCG I did feel like I expected and kind of soft and Beta and after the 15MCG I felt great and know my test levels are slightly higher with the 15MCG.

I had a trainee today and she is 58 and kind of the dominant type of woman and feels like she has something to prove especially around men. Everyone has had some issue with her. I had no issues and she listened to every word during training. After about 5 hours I got a huge sexual urge. Now this had nothing to do with the woman being there as she is not the least bit attractive and feel this is due to this molecule and the first time I got this feeling.

I get a few random effects like this sexual thing and the random brain glitch with this molecule. If I can reproduce this sexual effect of this molecule I would say this is a great molecule for men and women and I really believe this increases either testosterone or DHEA levels somehow.

**Test 4**

**15MCG on Neck**  
So from my very interesting results and in the name of science I decide to take 2 10MG Vicodin this time even though I am ok with pain. Environment was outdoors at a very busy swap meet with 70 degree weather. I felt very relaxed and soft after taking the 20MG Vicodin as expected. After I put the 15MCG of this molecule on I felt very dominant and assertive.

Walking around I got a few IOI’s from women and noticed a few checking me out, but nothing over the top. I am with the wife and this maybe why to I don’t know. Every time I get close to a table to check out items for sale men and women apologize and move out of my way even though they are fine being a few feet away from me. But this time nothing really big to note. I haven’t taken any pain medications in 4 months and find it interesting how the molecule seems to bring my test levels back to normal or at least it feels this way. I didn’t get any memory or seeing things random glitch that sometimes this molecule does to me. I didn’t expect to much out of this as it was an outside environment. If it matters it was maybe a 5MPH wind and 70 degrees and night setting here in AZ.

**Combinations**  
Let’s face it no one wears single molecules so I thought I would include some combos here.

**TEST 1**  
2 sprays 10MCG with 5MCG TAC’

I have to go to work early to turn in some paperwork. I go outside where the boss and a few others hang out and smoke. Within a few minutes of being in the mone cloud he all of a sudden starts talking to me and asking how I am doing. He never does this as normally he is a cocky prick and all about himself. Then he goes on to tell me how he appreciates my work and how I work so hard. He never tells anyone this ever. So total respect hit here. Others are starting to show up and all of a sudden I am in the center of about 10 people. The guy left of me 50 white male is asking my input on some questions with equipment and procedures. I am explaining a few things and giving him some tips. Then he thanks me for my input and says you know why don’t you put in to be a supervisor as I listen to peoples need and I know how to direct things. So I am very happy with these results.

I had a trainee again 55 male kind of quiet and very old school. I was worried he wouldn’t listen to me as I am 36 and he sometimes thinks he knows a lot more and tends not to listen to the younger people. We get to the piece of equipment I will train him on and for anyone in the mining business it is a 200TON Caterpillar 789D Haul Truck. I had his full attention and he listened very well and followed my exact instructions. He went on to say how he was very impressed with my knowledge and thanked me at the end of the day for helping. He said he was so impressed that he requested me again the next day as he was learning more from me than anyone else. Total respect and that was some of the nicest things I have heard in a long time and it felt good.

**Test 2**  
2 sprays 1X Ammo/5 MCG layered over Ammo/2 drops 25% Hedione EO MIX(Post#170 for formula)/10 MCG P13…

I thought this would bring my work mix to another level. I felt very good and like a boss with this setup even more than the P13… by itself. Everyone was in a good mood when I got to work and offering me things like a cup of coffee or a cigarette. I got a lot of respect but not in an intimidating way like A314 REV32. Everyone starts bragging how good they are at there job when they are in my mone cloud like they are trying to impress me. I know this is the P13… at work with the Ammo.

On a side note I think this P13… paired with Ammo is a great combo and steers the Ammo in more of a commanding respect vibe without being harsh or to over the top. My sweet spot with P13… is 10-15 MCG.

**Strength** - I give a 9 as I do find this pretty strong

**Length of Effects** - I get about 4 solid hours out of it with more subtle effects till around 6 hours

**Tenacity** - I would say this definitely is more aggressive and attacks people

**Effectiveness & Consistency** - The respect and authority aspect is very consistent. Now there is some type of brain glitch that is random like I sometimes forget where I am and see things move. Also once in a while I get a sexual urge. These effects are very random.

**Diffusion/Sillage** - This thing I give an 8 and diffuses pretty fast. The mone cloud solo was 6-7 feet.

I really had fun with this molecule and as always I thank Androtics for this as a freebie and just being a great company.

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**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 2:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/255 "2016-02-14T14:03:27Z")

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It’s just crazy how results can vary from individual to individual 🙂. Maybe that one just didn’t work for my biochem as it gave me really weird psychotropic results. Great report Just.

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**Post date:** [February 14, 2016, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/256 "2016-02-14T21:20:33Z")

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Today I wanted to try the famous mix but use straight Hedione to see if my EO mix is working like it should.

2.5 mcgs of TUTH  
10 mcgs of TAC  
2.5 mcgs of P96  
3 dabs hedione

It was suggested that a 1 part None to 4 parts TAC works and this is the best ratio so I wanted to try this out to.

I wore this going to church and wanted to see what would happen. I get there and the mix acted like I expected it to. All the men were giving me respect and the women were very intrigued.

I was talking to one of the older women 55 Hispanic and really fine. She has flirted with me before in the past and my wife gets pissed. I actually walked by her and another lady around 45 Hispanic also. I meant to go get some water from the water fountain. As soon as I get with 5 feet both of them DIHL me. I talk with both of them and the younger leaves after 20 minutes and then the older one is all smiles and totally into me. I had a really hard time resisting.

After this I talk to a few guys in the lounge and it is total respect from all of them and they are trying to impress me a little.

After this the service starts and the pastor walks by as I am in the front row and now the mix hits him. He looks at me and just hangs around my seat most of the service and goes on to say how my wife got a good looking guy and she should take me out for valentines day. The service was about love and god so it seemed I was the focal point here. I laughed as it was fun.

Then after words we go to eat at subway before we get groceries and we walk in and a 20 woman is out the counter to make our sandwiches and she is DIHL. No smiles and looks at me totally in shock. I was with the wife and I try to crack some jokes to kind of lighten the mood and not make it awkward.

We get groceries which is next door at safeway and there is no big hits here. What I do notice though is 90% of the people look at me though men and women. So much that the wife even makes a comment about it.

I used pure hedione with dab method here because my PA is sitting at the post office and can not get it till Tuesday.

I need to redo my Essential Oil formula or use anther app spot and retest this same mix. The Hedione didn’t seem to last as long without my other oils. So now I am back to the drawing board here. I do think a small amount of PA might do my EO mix good like 5%.

I am all ears if anyone has any suggestions.

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**Author:** ![Smellymen2002](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@Smellymen2002](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smellymen2002)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2016, 2:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/257 "2016-02-15T02:47:21Z")

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> [@justintime469](#):
>
> Today I wanted to try the famous mix but use straight Hedione to see if my EO mix is working like it should.
> 
> 2.5 mcgs of TUTH  
> 10 mcgs of TAC  
> 2.5 mcgs of P96  
> 3 dabs hedione
> 
> It was suggested that a 1 part None to 4 parts TAC works and this is the best ratio so I wanted to try this out to.
> 
> I wore this going to church and wanted to see what would happen. I get there and the mix acted like I expected it to. All the men were giving me respect and the women were very intrigued.
> 
> I was talking to one of the older women 55 Hispanic and really fine. She has flirted with me before in the past and my wife gets pissed. I actually walked by her and another lady around 45 Hispanic also. I meant to go get some water from the water fountain. As soon as I get with 5 feet both of them DIHL me. I talk with both of them and the younger leaves after 20 minutes and then the older one is all smiles and totally into me. I had a really hard time resisting.
> 
> After this I talk to a few guys in the lounge and it is total respect from all of them and they are trying to impress me a little.
> 
> After this the service starts and the pastor walks by as I am in the front row and now the mix hits him. He looks at me and just hangs around my seat most of the service and goes on to say how my wife got a good looking guy and she should take me out for valentines day. The service was about love and god so it seemed I was the focal point here. I laughed as it was fun.
> 
> Then after words we go to eat at subway before we get groceries and we walk in and a 20 woman is out the counter to make our sandwiches and she is DIHL. No smiles and looks at me totally in shock. I was with the wife and I try to crack some jokes to kind of lighten the mood and not make it awkward.
> 
> We get groceries which is next door at safeway and there is no big hits here. What I do notice though is 90% of the people look at me though men and women. So much that the wife even makes a comment about it.
> 
> I used pure hedione with dab method here because my PA is sitting at the post office and can not get it till Tuesday.
> 
> I need to redo my Essential Oil formula or use anther app spot and retest this same mix. The Hedione didn’t seem to last as long without my other oils. So now I am back to the drawing board here. I do think a small amount of PA might do my EO mix good like 5%.
> 
> I am all ears if anyone has any suggestions.

Your going to thing I’m crazy here but what if you took out the TUTH and put in p74? That way you can have both surface and deep “connections” then you could use the hedoine for the " come get him" part of the mix.

I would honestly wait until you get the PA in and mix it. I have not really seen good results with dabbing, I think the sprays hit better.

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I have had mixed with dabbing and sprays. I have the PA and I just have to get it on Tuesday.

I want to somehow make my essential oil mix work. I have had really good hits with it all by itself. What I am think is not using DPG and using straight Hedione. I would mix 7.0ML of Hedione then 0.5ML of PA and then 2.5ML of my EO all in a 10ML bottle like the A314 with the dropper.

I may try that mix for the hell of it you mentioned. With my EO mix and hedione if I can find the right balance really attracts women hard core all by itself. I guess I am looking for a super Hedione formula I can make.

I love [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) I know I wouldn’t get the respect from guys, but I think it would add a bonding kind of happy vibe. I may just try this P74 like you suggest maybe P96 to as I think that would be a good one.

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> [@justintime469](#):
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> I have had mixed with dabbing and sprays. I have the PA and I just have to get it on Tuesday.
> 
> I want to somehow make my essential oil mix work. I have had really good hits with it all by itself. What I am think is not using DPG and using straight Hedione. I would mix 7.0ML of Hedione then 0.5ML of PA and then 2.5ML of my EO all in a 10ML bottle like the A314 with the dropper.
> 
> I may try that mix for the hell of it you mentioned. With my EO mix and hedione if I can find the right balance really attracts women hard core all by itself. I guess I am looking for a super Hedione formula I can make.
> 
> I love P74 I know I wouldn’t get the respect from guys, but I think it would add a bonding kind of happy vibe. I may just try this P74 like you suggest maybe P96 to as I think that would be a good one.

I don’t think the respect thing would be a problem if you kept the [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) in a low amount. 5-10 mcgs. If your thinking about respect just wear the mix around your girl. If P96 can “connect” TAC and TUTH. I’m sure P74 wouldn’t be a problem.

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With P74 I see most people like to wear around 20MCGS or so. With my work mix and most other mixes I have really good luck around 5MCGS or even 10MCGS. What is weird is I have much better luck with P74 in Ammo scent over say Neroli.

I find this with a lot of molecules. If I want a certain molecule to stand out and be the shining star of a mix I will wear it in Ammo or Himalayan and all the others in the standard Neroli.

I even find this with TAC to. Instead of the 4:1 ration of TAC to TUTH if I wear the TAC in Ammo scent I can get away with 15MCGS of TAC to 2 sprays of TUTH and what this does for me is make the sexual part of the mix come through a little more instead of getting the more relaxed effect of the TAC.

My goal isn’t really to attract women just my wife. I do like slight attraction when I go out just enough to get women’s attention so they listen to me and do what I ask.

ON a side note this is from post #161 when I met the mayor and he said the county job was mine.

I wore the same mix as that same post and got my interview. Now the job **Clearly States** a CDL class A or Permit is required. I went to the interview and it went really well and I passed all my equipment tests. I am an equipment operator for a copper mine I just don’t have my CDL.

They even mentioned I wasn’t suppose to even get an interview not having a CDL, but they got a call and said they need to interview me and give me a chance and they didn’t say who.

I knew who already and after the interview I said well what do I need to do here. They said well we tell you what we will give you 3 weeks to get your permit and give you a shot. So I studied a lot and went and got it and got the job. So I am putting my notice in at my current job and starting in a month or so.

I do believe anything is possible if you work hard and do people right and wear the right combination of pheromones. They are not magic, but they sure do help for sure and this is proof as I would have never got this chance.

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