# justintime469 journey **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [February 20, 2015, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877 "2015-02-20T17:37:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 6:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/161 "2015-12-09T18:12:54Z")
I have been reading through the MX274 section in the women’s MX forum. This is the first time as I try to test out all these things with no prior knowledge of what they do. I think tisha23 said over in this section that MX274 is for men and women. Post # 28 > [@](#): > > tish23 MX274 is a test product. They need feedback from both men and women. This one has 6 mones in it and men **can** use it. Cant tell you anymore on it or they will whip me with a jerky stick LOL J/k maybe not 😃 Post#85 > [@](#): > > tisha23 I dont think there is anything that can put a smile on your face quite the same way as Instant Shine does but some products can increase feelings of wellbeing and joy. [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), spaceland can be fun products. Great in a party atmosphere to help get things flowing. When your having a good time you will just naturally smile. TAA which is the main molecule Ishine is made from. P94 and P100 have been reported to increase laughter or feelings of happiness. P104 caused an extreme feeling of joy in my testing but I think I was one of the few people who felt that with it. Still needs testing 😃 I think it would be beneficial for the men to test out MX274. It has some great reports over in the ladies section. After initial testing use it in conjunction with a male mix. Keep in mind its cookie grapefruit scent but its really fresh and nice in my opinion and men could use it. Tisha I know this would work great for guys. I didn’t hardly any reactions from the women just guys. If this was in a universal scent like Neroli I would buy more if it to. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2015, 2:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/162 "2015-12-10T14:33:26Z")
I decided to try my Ammo/P131/Hedione without the TAC to see what I would get and this is what happened. **Environment** Christmas party for friends and family at church I wore 2 sprays Ammo 1X 1 left and 1 right neck 2 sprays P131 5 MCG Spray 10 MCG total 6% [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/). 1 throat and 1 back of neck 2 dabs pure Hedione on wrists. I thought I would try this out just to see how well the TAC is actually effecting this mix. I walk in and I was almost completely ghosted. I was very shocked by my results. There were a few people that came up to me and spoke to me and some that were open, but for the most part people were very closed off even when I tried to open them up. I really thought this mix would be very appropriate for this setting. I think the None and partially the Rone has to do with this. I know if I wore say IS over the Ammo it would have been a different story. With the P131 it didn’t work at all and I was just as shocked by this as well. I think the P131 adds this touching bonding connection to things and the TAC works to disinhibit things to kind of tell people that this feeling is ok. Without the TAC it seems people are very uncomfortable when paired with a sexual like TUTH or Ammo. I think that Ammo/P131 can work great but really needs the TAC or it is a total failure. I think what happened is the P131 just brought the Ammo over the top for the situation and made others uncomfortable with the connection/arousal level. In a bar setting this would have probably been a great combo. I have worn TAC with P131 and also with Ammo separately and it always goes very smooth. So I think with any sexual or attraction mix TAC from now on is going to be on of my main steering molecules to let people know that this feeling is good and ok. TAC works on men and women and I get a lot of respect from men also with it. In fact I have had better luck with TUTH/P131/Hedione/TAC in inappropriate situations over Ammo/P131 by far. I think a good general combo going out is TUTH/TAC or even Ammo/TAC. You really can’t go wrong with either setup and then add a steering mone to steer a little in the direction you want. I have tried TUTH/IS/TAC with great luck. I like to add some happiness to any mix so I usually choose IS, P131, P74 or something like one of these to really add that fun element to the mix. Again anyone reading this I do give credit to Jdub as this is his mix and I just have been adjusting it to fit what I like. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 4:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/163 "2015-12-12T16:14:50Z")
I decided to wear A314 Rev 32/TAC/IS 2 drops A314 Rev 32 to jawline 4 sprays 5 MCG TAC 1 left and 1 right neck, 1 left and 1 right wrist 2 sprays IS 1X 1 left and 1 right hair **Environment** Toys for Tots volunteer function I walk in and everyone is happy to see me. I am helping unload the big box truck full of toys. Now this mix was really good. People are actually telling me to sit down and just check things off and kind of manage things. I am happy to do so. The event coordinator is happy to see me and he is opening me up big time. Now I am really shocked because I have worn A314 about a hundred different times and I have never been opened up by anyone with it. The TAC appears to work very well with A314. We finally get to where all the stuff is unloaded and we are ready to hand out toys. I am handing out church event papers telling times and dates for Christmas plays and shows. Now what I like about this church is they are ok with gays and anyone coming here and this is the first place I have gone where you are not judged for being who you are. Everyone that I hand papers to are very receptive and wanted to chat with me a while which is difficult because we need to keep this line moving for families getting there toys. The event coordinator is getting frustrated because of this and even tells me to keep things moving. I mean people are just coming up to me and just chatting up a storm like they are my best friends, total strangers to. I have never had any effects like this out of A314. TAC is my new main putative and if it goes out of stock and I run out I may just have to stop my pheromone use till I get more. We finally get through handing out all the toys and I am talking to event coordinator and asked him where he got a certain toy because our daughter wants one. HE said you know what “here” and hands me 3 of the toy and says “they are yours merry Christmas and thank you for helping”. Now I was shocked I mean not 1 but 3 of them. They are some type of Art in A jar thing. After this I am chatting with all the workers and thanking them and tell them they are all just wonderful for helping out. The Toys For Tots is tied in a little with the church. It is a Christian church in case anyone wonders. After this the pastor comes up to be and says I did a great job and hands me a large Frappuccino and says I made it myself just for you. Now he is always nice to me just not this nice. I am so shocked by all of this and TAC is just a smooth operator. I feel like I can pair this thing with any other pheromone and it will just be an awesome day. Now this is where it really goes over the top for me. The mayor of the town shows up and decides he wants a picture with event coordinator and myself in the front and all the other workers in the background. After this he is talking with me solo and asks about who I am where I work etc. etc. I am very friendly and he seems like a nice guy. He asks about my what I do for work and I am telling him and I also mentioned I applied for a city job as an equipment operator hoping to stay closer to home instead of traveling for work. He pulls out his business card hand it to me and says " I will call down there Monday and the job is your". Now I am really blown away by this. I mean here is the mayor offering me a job when he just met me and does not even really know me. He has seen me at other functions and I did not know this and know who he was at the time. So this is beyond huge for me. **Now I know the TAC is at work here BIG TIME.** I just can’t believe how my night has gone last night. This TAC really helps any pheromone operate how it is intended. for example with TUTH it smooth’s things out and the TAC seems to take away most if not all of the negatives. With TAC/Ammo it is similar to TUTH/TAC, but a lot more socially and everyone is in a great mood and treats you very well. A314/TAC now I am very shocked here. When I get back to work this is my new killer combo I think. The TAC just took the intimidation factor right out and I still got the VIP status from the Rone without coming off as too good to some of the other workers at the function, so this is perfect. I give a special thanks once again to Jdub, because from reading his journal I have learned a lot and this is how I have really discovered TAC. ---
**Author:** ![HankBuddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f04885/32.png) [@HankBuddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HankBuddy)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 4:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/164 "2015-12-12T16:48:09Z")
Whoa! Awesome report! I have TAC coming in on Tuesday. You’ve given me ideas on how to test it. Stay tuned! ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 1:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/165 "2015-12-13T13:03:37Z")
I decided to retest P74 at a higher dose after reading Hank’s journal. I have only really tested to around 30 MCG and never any higher as I never saw the need to. I have P74 in Neroli 6% in 2.5 MCG and also in 25 MCG. I spray 1 spray of 25 MCG to throat. I get the happy connection vide feeling I normally get. I am not quite as irritable as I can be with my daughter acting up at times. I feel very happy and nothing else to note at 25 MCG. With seems to want to be closer to me to. I spray 4 sprays of my 2.5 MCG a spray 1 left 1 right wrist 1 left 1 right neck. I did it this way so I can spread my mone cloud around and see what I really get. I now have 35 MCG on and don’t notice any change from 25 MCG. I wait 10 minutes and spray another shot of 25 MCG to throat. Now I have 60 MCG on and decide this should be enough. I don’t notice any change from 25 to 35 to 60 MCG. I just notice the effects much more intense and I am much happier. I decide to go out and get some Christmas shopping done. Now I don’t notice a whole lot of change in everywhere I went from wearing P74 at lower doses. I do notice people seem really comfortable around me and want to be closer is the main thing I notice at higher doses. I feel like a total soft teddy bear at this dose and have a feeling others see me that way to. Now right at 2.5 hours exactly I got a sexual appetite which is strange because this is not sexual at all to me. I know a lot of these single molecules transition at different doses, but this one didn’t. It seemed to transition with time for some reason. I don’t know if this thing just takes over and when the effects start to wear off this happens or what here, but very interesting. I was walking thru Walgreens when it first hit and I remember checking out some of the women walking by, then a hot pregnant chick walks by and I look back to check her back side out, then I stopped and thought to myself WTF I am doing? Normally I may check out 30% of the women or so I see, but now it is more like 90% of them. This sexual appetite seemed to last a few hours for me. So I got the norm P74 effects from initial application to right at exactly 2.5 hours. Then at 2.5 hours till about 4.5 hours(so 2 hours this sexual part lasted), in addition to the happy connection feeling, then at 4.5 hours the sexual part fell off and then I just had the happy connection feeling till about 5.5 hours. I usually get around 5.5 hours out of P74. I do find that I get a lot more time out of pheros in the Ammo FF/21 scent. If I want a pheromone to stand out over the others I try to use a stronger scent in that one. For example I find I can actually wear 3 sprays 1X TUTH if I use TAC in the Ammo scent while out in public instead of 2 sprays. The same MCG TAC also. But this can back fire to because a lot of people find the Ammo scent overbearing. A special thanks to Hank because I may have not tested this at higher doses. I will be finishing up testing P12… this week then on to P7… next week. ---
**Author:** ![HankBuddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f04885/32.png) [@HankBuddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HankBuddy)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 2:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/166 "2015-12-13T14:42:50Z")
Thanks for testing P74 at the higher dose. Yeah, you confirmed what I experienced - increase sexual urges after a few hours when the pheromone wanes. Very interesting effect, and I wouldn’t have expected it from this putative. When I tested it at 30 mcg, my friend was around me the entire time. This might explain why he got incredibly sexual despite nearly friendzoning me earlier in the evening. I guess we don’t have to be afraid of using P74 at high doses as long as our target is within our cloud the entire time. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 2:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/167 "2015-12-13T14:50:38Z")
Hmm yes I have never used that high of a dose. I may have to convince the wife to try around 50 MCG and ask her in a few hours about how she feels to see how women react to this as well. I always looked at [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) is the soft cuddly teady bear. I may have to look at this more and see what this does from a woman’s view. It was crazy because I was like a dog in heat is how I felt. I don’t have enough data to really understand this effect but I would like to definitely try this again. This would be the ultimate if we could figure out how to turn P74 into a sexual. If this can be turned sexual as you discovered I think I may be able to go a little heavier with None mixes. I may eventually try a dose around 50 MCG P74 with like 20 MCG TAC and 4 sprays TUTH 1X in public just for fun to see what I get. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 3:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/168 "2015-12-15T15:33:30Z")
**P12… Report** Androtics was nice enough to include this in my last order so here is my report on it. So this 1 was very tricky and some results were inconsistent, but this is what I got out of it. This will be from a 5ML Togo 5MCG a spray 6% [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/). **Self Test** **5MCG** slight increase in heart rate and nothing else **10MCG** Same as at 5 MCG but slightly more of a heart rate increase **15MCG** Now this is where it kicks in. Heart rate increased more. At this dose I feel more alive and social. All my other tests I will probably start at this dose. I got a rush feeling and it is sort of like a caffeine rush without the buzz. Not a bad feeling I quite like it. I have things to do and don’t want to drive because of this. 20 minutes later this thing is setting in and hitting harder and I am very bubbly and happy with a slight butterfly feeling in my stomach(almost like I got with MX274 and IS/B). It is now 30 minutes later and I feel this thing alters my senses somehow. It is 62 Degrees in the house and I am not cold at all(I live in Arizona which is a hot state so I am used to heat). Now I am usually cold around 67 or so and turning heater on. I notice I have to watch the time to as it seems easier to lose track of it. **20MCG** I am getting the same effect as I did at 15MCG but it is hitting a lot harder now. I am really having fun and laughing a lot more and feel like I am at a party or at least want to be. I just feel wonderful and like I have taken a heppy pill. This thing for me is like a mix of TAA and P91. **25MCG** I am getting the same feeling as I did with 20MCG, but now I have seem to have a huge appreciation for music. It is like I can actually feel the beat and Music is making me feel even better. This may be to the sense perception. I have no sense of time and I am just in this happy place. **30MCG** No difference from 25MCG **35MCG** no difference from 30MCG. This is where I stop my self test because I feel 15-25MCG will be my test range. I didn’t experience any transition at all with this molecule. This was just a self test and it may transition on other people I don’t know. **Test 1** 2 sprays to neck 1 left 1 right 1 spray each wrist for 20MCG total. I decide to wait 30 minutes before going out because of driving. After 30 minutes I go to Wal Mart to pick up a prescription. I start driving and noticed I am very distracted, not good. It takes everything out of me to pay attention to the road. I catch myself looking around instead of focusing on the road. I get to Wal Mart and I have no hits to note. I was trying to invade everyone’s space to. I walk around a while and I had maybe 15 different subjects men and women of all ages and nothing to note. I even say a few 1 liners to try and open a few people up like “Hey nice shirt” or something like this. A few hours later I pick my daughter up from school and take her to gymnastic practice. There are always super hot MILF’s here so this will work. I walk in and take a seat. A few minutes later a mid 30’s woman white sits on my right she is a 9. I have seen her before and she is kind of a stuck up snob. She starts playing on her phone and I am watching her body language and she is really closed off. She is sitting 2 feet away and within the mone cloud. I try to make friendly chit chat with her but she is just being rude so I give up. Then a Hispanic woman same age sits on my left same age and an 8. I open her up within a few minutes and she opens right up and smiling a lot. She is giving me IOI’s and being very flirty and seems to be having a lot of fun just watching the kids and us chatting. She knows I am married and we know each other not well, but we see each other often here. She is way more flirty than normal with me and even says" I really like you but respect you are married", I couldn’t believe this as this seems out of line for her. She is more the quite type and more reserved. So this molecule has to be working here. We both enjoyed the friendly flirting. So there may be some type of attraction here or this thing may alter the perception of this I am not sure. Possibly a slight beautifying. This could be also that I didn’t have the wife. Hard to tell here. **Test 2** 3 sprays 1 each wrist and 1 to throat. Now I don’t get quite the rush feeling with this setup, but this is good because my focus is better this way to. This time I am with the wife getting groceries. I notice on the way to town she is very bubbly and not paying as much attention to the road. So I have to watch her like a hawk here. So this thing I wouldn’t drive at all with it if possible as this is very dangerous. This molecule is not good for focus either like to study for anything. Very distracting molecule, but it sure is fun so like a trade off. We get to the grocery store and right away we see a family friend Hispanic middle 50’s. Right away she is very bubbly and laughing and kind of being loud like she has a IDGAF attitude. This is not quite like her. So this is seems to be hitting her good. No huge hits to note while here. I do notice that most people I come in contact with are generally smiling and seem to be having fun for grocery shopping. Men and women are smiling more when with 6 feet. This thing seems to be hitting more women than men. I do notice this thing hits much harder for the first 2 hours, then I get more subtle effects after that. I would like to see more from this molecule. This thing is a roller coaster ride for me for sure. **Test 3** I use same 3 app points and sprays as test 2. I wait an hour before I try to drive and then I go to bank to deposit some checks. I see one of the bankers I deal with sometimes there so I go say hi to her and within a minute of talking to her she is laughing and smiling a lot. She starts to tell me all kinds of things like her period and other crazy things. I don’t know if it is the IDGAF attitude or what. I barely know her. I was shocked by this. I don’t know if she is in party mode or this is somehow a verbal disinhibitor or what. She talk on for a while and doesn’t want to get back to work it seems like. After the bank I have to go to a friends house to drop a USB stick off he asked me to put music on for him. He is middle 30’s white and girlfriend is the same middle 30’s white. I get there and drop it off and he decides to listen to a few songs. Within a few minutes he is really into the music him and his GF and then they starting letting loose and dancing. They are having so much fun and ask I stay a while. Then they say “hey Dance with us”. I normally don’t dance at all but figure what the hell you live once. Now for 2 hours this goes on before I realize I have other things to do and I completely lost track of time. But we sure had fun and it was worth it. **Strength** This thing is a 10 very potent and one of the strongest hitting single molecule I have used. **Length of Effects** The first 2 to 3 hours this thing hits hard then subtle effects till around 5 hours for me. **Tenacity** This thing attacks and hard. like a military fighter. **Effectiveness & Consistency** Very effective, but as far as consistency some parts were inconsistent. I would like to have figured out more like attractiveness or sexual part of this molecule. **Diffusion/Sillage** Mone cloud was around 6 feet or so. I don’t have anything special to report here. **Music** This thing reminds me of Rick James. "Cocaine is a hell of a drug: comes to mind here because it is exactly like this. I have to write that I would not drive with this because it can be very dangerous. The most appropriate environment would be like a bar or party something like this. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 4:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/169 "2015-12-15T16:17:19Z")
Great report. Did you get a crash effect at the end of the day? At which dose? ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 4:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/170 "2015-12-15T16:56:40Z")
I didn’t get any crash at al from this. Just seemed to hit hard for 2 to 3 hours then I got less subtle effects after that. I notice I had a real hard time driving to, but after the 3 hours it was ok. I found the most usable dose for me was 15-25MCG total. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 2:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/171 "2015-12-17T14:08:37Z")
I don’t really have anything to report. I was going to do a P7… test and report, but when I looked at a Togo of the bottle there was only like 8 sprays left in it. The next week will be hectic with the holidays and I need a break anyway to clear my head and get ready for the New Year. On a side note I got a lot of EO stuff in and I made a mix with Hedione, Jasmine, and some others. I went with Conjurators suggestion and got some DPG oil as my carrier oil and I am letting it setup 1 more day to see what I get. I am looking to take the famous Jdub mix to another level through testing and experimenting. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/172 "2015-12-18T17:37:46Z")
I finally got my EO in and made a new mix **TFO3** DPG 5ML Kama Sutra blend(Jamine, [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/), Orange, and Rose) 1ML Hedione 2.5ML Ylang Ylang 0.5ML Patchouli Dark 0.5ML Synthetic Musk Oil 0.5ML I mixed in a 10ML bottle with a dropper the same exact type as the A314 bottle. I mixed in this exact order. 1ML DPG/1ML Kame Sutra/2.5ML Hedione/1ML DPG/0.5ML Ylang Ylang/1ML DPG/0.5ML Patchouli Dark/1ML DPG/0.5ML Musk/1ML DPG. I mixed like this to help try to blend it better. I shaked the botte a few times a day and let se up over 3 days. 1 drop left and 1 right jawline. 1 drop to left wrist smeared to right. I chose the Ylang Ylang and the musk because it smells more like a sweet cologne and the Patchouli because it is very bold and strong. The Patchouli dark is very strong like Ammo scent but not near as much in your face and not offensive. The Hedione really mixed well with everything and diffuses this thing very well. Hedione mixed ok with cologne, but I find with the DPG it seems to mix even better. I notice oil mixes I make with Hedione don’t last as long and is like a trade off for nice sillage/diffusion. With this setup the scent hit nice and hard for about 5 hours solid and then is still noticeable but the cloud is reduced to within a few feet. What I did was play a game with wife/daughter where I had them turn there backs and use there sense of smell only and tell me when they can smell me close. Average was 8 to 10 feet so this is looking really good. After 5 hours it was anywhere from 2-4 feet. Without the Hedione with the same mixes I only get around 3 feet altogether but it will last me all day. Honestly I would rather have the added sillage and refresh every 5 hours with the added Hedione. Everywhere I went I got a lot of attention with just this one alone.60% of the people were giving me a look, a smile, something men and women, but especially women. Women really love the scent and every women that did give me a look asked about the scent and then went on to say it reminds them of something so kind of like a memory effect of some type. Also while they were talking to me they were taking huge deep breathes to. With men I don’t have enough testing to really understand much yet. I do have to test more and this is just a quick note as to my results from just 1 test. I will be testing with TUTH/TAC setup to see what I get. A special thanks to Conjurator for suggesting the DPG oil ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 6:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/173 "2015-12-18T18:34:16Z")
Great, thanks for sharing your results! I believe you can up the sillage by trying maybe 5% PA to 95% DPG and go gradually from there. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/174 "2015-12-18T21:05:41Z")
OK thanks. I will use this bottle than try that I am going to look into it. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 2:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/175 "2015-12-19T14:20:49Z")
Nice report on the smell to distance ratio test.. This is making me think that while wearing -mones, one should re-apply their cologne every so many hours to ensure the best results. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/176 "2015-12-19T16:46:07Z")
My daughter loves games and I may just try this out more often. There is a lot to scent I think especially on how these mones effect people. I am trying to figure out on how to get a nice smell without being over bearing and one that works with the mones to help carry them to my targets nose. I love Ammo, but it can come off as just to strong to other people. I am finding 6% Ammo scent in the putatives with my EO mixes very effective. If anyone has any ideas on what works best for them or what I can try I am all open. Jdub, I am really enjoying your new tests with the cologne and seeing how it is working out. Conjurator does some really good tests for cologne with the mones to. ---
**Author:** ![Smellymen2002](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@Smellymen2002](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smellymen2002)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 9:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/177 "2015-12-19T21:35:12Z")
> [@justintime469](#): > > My daughter loves games and I may just try this out more often. There is a lot to scent I think especially on how these mones effect people. I am trying to figure out on how to get a nice smell without being over bearing and one that works with the mones to help carry them to my targets nose. > > I love Ammo, but it can come off as just to strong to other people. I am finding 6% Ammo scent in the putatives with my EO mixes very effective. > > If anyone has any ideas on what works best for them or what I can try I am all open. > > Jdub, I am really enjoying your new tests with the cologne and seeing how it is working out. Conjurator does some really good tests for cologne with the mones to. Well I have really good luck with ammo and P96. I think it really adds depth to ammo. Or you your could try my old stand by of AMMO+ IS. I wish they made IS in a oil base the hits only last an hour or two, but they have been some of the best hits I have ever had. I also used to spray ammo right before I met my target, the smell would be far too strong. Now I usually wait 15 minutes for the scent to dry down, and the targets seem to be quite a bit more responsive. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 4:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/178 "2015-12-20T04:18:51Z")
I too love the scent of ammo. Hey thanks man, I’m liking how things are turning out with the colognes myself. Have you tried the TUTH/TAC/Hedione mix with P96? If so, was there more kino? ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 1:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/179 "2015-12-23T01:50:55Z")
Not I sure haven’t tried with P96. You read my mind though. I paired TUTH with just about everythng. So now I think when I get back to testing I will do the same tests as I did with TUTH but now with TUTH/TAC or TUTH/TAC/Hedione. ---
**Author:** ![Smellymen2002](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@Smellymen2002](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smellymen2002)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 5:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877/180 "2015-12-23T17:35:48Z")
> [@justintime469](#): > > No I sure haven’t tried with P96. You read my mind though. I paired TUTH with just about everythng. So now I think when I get back to testing I will do the same tests as I did with TUTH but now with TUTH/TAC or TUTH/TAC/Hedione. I do hope you try this mix out, you have given me some really good advice, now I’m doing the same. The ammo attracts the ladies, but it’s the P96 that hooks them. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877.md?page=8) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/justintime469-journey/63877.md?page=10)