Nice work, man. Very interesting combo. I’ll have to get my hands on some TAA soon and try that out.
Same Post in Men’s Section Posting here to keep organized
I asked about a 3% scent option for the putatives/experimones a while back because there were a few scents I liked just thought at 6% they were even to strong scent wise and they are FF20 /Himalayan and FF21 / Ammo .
Here is the link if anyone is interested
I felt Androtics what nice enough to provide this option so the very least I could do is order the 2 scents I wrote about and test them in the 3% FF20 /Himalayan and FF21 / Ammo .
So I got **P82 in 20MCG 3% FF20/Himalayn andP132 in 5MCG 3% FF21/Ammo **. I chose these 2 because they are 2 of the most untested molecules and I really enjoy testing some of the stuff no one else is in the name of science.
I will start with P82 in 3% FF20/Himalayan
1 spray This was to the throat. Very nice and not overpowering and actually at 3% is perfect for this scent and seems very balanced scent wise at this 3%. Within a minute or 2 settles in very nicely and not strong at all.
2 sprays both to the throat. Now I am getting more of a nice high end musk smell than I ever did in the Himalayan. I have tested this scent in the 6% and the 20% also and this 3% is just right. Now what I find very interesting with this is just how a molecule can act one way at one dose and another way at a different dose, the same goes for this Himalayan scent to. At the 6 and 20 percent it is to strong for some and some complain of the scent. Well at the 3% these same people love it and is nice to be around. The 3% is more of a musk where the 6 and 20 can smell more like an overbearing sweet smell to it. At 2 sprays smells like Brut, but very hi end and people just love it and I have got a lot of compliments on this. I can smell the scent on myself for about 1-2 hours with wife noticing the scent for 4.5 hours and the mone cloud 5-6 feet and even had the wife test this after 3 hours after my last spray. I have fallen in love with this new 3% Himalayan.
4 Sprays 2 to throat and 1 each side of neck. The scent now is much stronger, but no where near overbearing and is still pleasant to be around. I am still getting that nice high end musk smell I love which is very addicting. I was around my family a lot of the day about 25 total parents, grandparents, nieces, nephews, and more. Now with the 6 or 20 percent some of them did not like it in the past. With this 3% on and at 4 sprays I got a lot of complements on it and I got asked where I got this cologne a lot so a great day.
6 sprays I used the same 4 sprays from above test and now added 1 spray each forearm. Now this is borderline OD for the scent now, but still nice at this point. For the first 10 minutes the scent is slightly overpowering, then dies down and settles nicely. With the 2 added sprays on the forearm it spread my mone cloud to 7-8 feet and I had the wife confirm this for me. I don’t have anymore to add at 6 sprays.
6 sprays with Cover Scent Same 6 sprays from above. For my cover I used Michael Storer Kadota This is a perfect setup scent wise and caught me off guard. For the cover I used 1 spray over each forearm app point and 1 spray in a sweeping motion from left of neck to throat and 1 right of neck sweeping towards throat for 4 sprays total of cover scent. The Himalayan is coming through the cover a little and actually meshes with this cologne nicely. It is like it is 1 scent and the 2 together are like 1 in unison here. I am getting the musk scent of the Himalayan and the very nice fig scent of the Kadota. I thought for sure this would just be to much scent, but actually I have got a ton of compliments everywhere I go with this setup and just right on the power here.
Next up is P132 5MCG 3% FF21/Ammo
1 spray to throat. Now this thing is much lighter than I imagined. Settles very quickly and I barely notice the scent there and not much to report on this. Slightly weaker than say 1 spray 6% Neroli scent wise.
2 Sprays Both on throat. Stronger at first and settles within 5 minutes and even after it settles I can detect it is there and ask wife to do the distance test and it is about 4-5 feet she can detect the scent.
4 Sprays Same 2 sprays from above and 1 to each side of neck. A lot stronger, but still not overbearing or no where near this level yet. Takes about 15 minutes this time to settle and after 2 hours after last spray the mone cloud is 5-6 feet.
6 Sprays Same app points as last test with 1 spray on each forearm. Now the mone cloud is spread out a bit. Still not overbearing and I could even probably go to 8 sprays with no issues. After 4 hours I can detect the scent on myself and the mone cloud is 8 feet even after 4 hours. I am getting some compliments on the smell to and I ask some friends and family what they think and not one person dislikes it. Some like it more than others. Very bold at 3% without being to much. I have also tested this same scent in 6 and 20 percent as well and also the regular Ammo at 10% to. At the 3% for me right at 3-4 sprays is about best for me.
**6 Sprays with Cover Scent **Same 6 sprays as above and also the same Kadota cover with same app points and all as the Himalayan test. Now the Kadota totally overpowers the Ammo which shocked me and there is very little trace of Ammo , so for me this proves now that I can use a cover scent with the Ammo at this 3% option. The only thing that came through is the nice sweet smell of the fig and other base notes of the Kadota. I had a few family memebers and wife also confirm this before I post.
The 3% Ammo was weaker than I thought it would be for 3%. There was no transition on the scent at all and I do not have a whole lot to note on this on as it is just like the 6% Ammo to me just toned down. The diffusion and silage was still very nice with this and with 4 or more sprays it lasted a long time still 6-9 hours or so.
The 3% Himalayan was a shock for me as it was much more pleasant than I could imagine. There is a transition on the scent of this where at this 3% it is much more of a musk scent to me and in say 20% it is to sweet smelling and is very overbearing and reminds me of like cotton candy at this range so very interesting. I got the similar results as the 3% Ammo where at 4-6 sprays I could get 8 hours or so out of it.
Nice testing there, with the different doses and wife’s comment, that’s a very complete analysis of those new % fragrance. Thanks. I have tried both 3% neroli and 3% FF20 too, I think they both hold nice.
I know you have tested the Kadota together with other products in preceeding reviews, but I’d be curious to see a solo review of that cologne. I think it’d be the first one on this forum. You know, sillage, diffusion, lasting power, fragrance notes on application, notes after drydown, notes after a few hours, that sort of things.
OK buddy you bet and you have my word that will be the next thing tested and I want to be very thorough with it and have been testing and writing in my paper journal already with it. It will take me about another week, by the end of next weekend I should report.
I have seen some older reports on the Michael Storer colognes, but they are really old. The only complaint I really have is all this is the only one for men in the store and I hope they would restock the Monk one someday.
I am going to a nephews B Day party and will wear this and see what the others think. Thanks for the tips on what you want me to include and I wrote that down in my paper journal. If anyone has anything other that they want me to test as far as what they are looking for let me know and I will report on it.
Michael Storer Kadota
I have been trying to test this since I got it and as there is no current reviews on this and will do my best to cover as much and be detailed as possible with this.
Initial Application Test
2 sprays 1 left and 1 righty of neck. I have never smelled fig before (this cologne is supposed to be based off of fig tree), but I get a slight musk sweet walnut type of scent. A lot of power initially and scent wise hits hard but not over bearing in your face though and this is suppose to be for men and women. I don’t get a girly type of sweet scent at all and feel ok wearing this. This is really close to the FF20/Himalayan scent at the 3% I just tested. Very bold yet not offensive at all. A slight sweet caramel scent comes to mind initially with this. I got some over spray on my shirt and I threw in the laundry basket later and 2 days later if I put my nose to the basket I can still smell the scent on the shirt from about 1 foot away with shirt on top of basket. A very nice summer scent for me.
As far as what others think my wife did not care for it, but she does not hate it either. It just does not interest her is all. This seems to be a scent where people really love it or they just are not interested it, but not hate it. I have found through the tests I have done that the scent can be steered like some of the molecules which I thought could not happen, but it can.
Main Notes
Fig(including its bloom and leafs), green and woody notes, and musk.
There is this fresh sweet accord to this cologne that is very balanced and reminds me of the FF20/Himalayan at 3% where it is very nice with a high end musk undertone.
Bottom Note
The fig is the bottom note for sure and what caries the whole boat with this one. Kind of a woody/Musk undertone here. Sweet but not overpowering and ok for men and women. Some may not like it like my wife does not when she tried it. Kind of like the Himalayan where some like it and others don’t.
Middle Notes
I am getting a ripe fresh fruit sense. Reminds me of a perfect fruit not to ripe, just right. Some musk to and like the Musk is coming through slightly more after some of the initial sweetness has died down from first applying.
Top Notes
I am getting more a green leaf note and this is more floral initially. I am getting hints of a smooth lacquer kind if a cream feeling to it. Just smooth and not to much for me anyways. Some don’t like the top floral scent, but it does settle down very nicely.
Dry down 2hours later
The Fig is the main carrier and the musk is very nice and there is this perfect balance between the 2. I am still getting some floral scent, but more the fig musk than anything. Still the smoothness is there like silk. Power is still there and silage/diffusion is great.
Silage/Diffusion
I give a 9 borderline 10. I could get people barely picking up the scent at up to 10-11 feet with 4 sprays between my wrist and neck app points. Lasts a long time to up to 8-9 hours if you are indoors and not outside in the hot weather. Throws far and people seem to easily pick up on the scent. Very consistent over the 8-9 hours to.
Ok this is a pheromone forum here so I have decided to test this thing as a cover scent to see how well it does.
Cover Scent Test
Neroli/Kadota
I use P109 6% Neroli and spray 1 spray left, 1 right neck, and 1 throat. I wait 10 minutes and spray Kadota 1 left and 1 right over the P109.
I can still feel the happy bubbly effects of the P109 still which is a great sign. The Kadota totally over powers the Neroli and seems to help lift the P109 off my neck even more as it is hitting harder and what I love is I still got the norm 4.5-5 hours out of the P109. Works good to cover the Neroli and scent wise the Kadota totally is dominant and takes over.
Grapefruit/Kadota
P106 20MCG 6% Grape 1 left, 1 right, 1 throat wait 10 minutes and 1 left 1 right Kadota cover.
I am surprised at how hard the Grape is hitting through the Kadota and what I find very peculiar is how the Grape makes more of the fruity notes come through with the Kadota. Grape is over powering the sweet scent and musk is coming through a little more to. This is the first time I have seen a cologne transition kind of how a molecule transitions at different doses. The Grape add a lot of power to the diffusion/sillage of the Kadota. No increase in effect of P106 effects.
FF/20 Himalayan/Kadota
P82 3% Himalayan 20MCG 3 sprays 1 left 1 right, 1 throat wait 10 minutes 1 spray Kadota left and 1 right neck.
Now this truly is a perfect match. I thought the Kadota would be to much for the Himalayan even at 3%,but it is just right. The Musk scent in the Himalayan goes perfect with the musk in the Kadota. The High end musk in the Himalayn is coming through the Kadota. I am getting a ton of compliments on this and people are following me where ever I go. I am at an all-u-can eat Chinese place and the scent is over powering all the smell from the food when walking through the lines. People of all ages are making comments and all races to. I walk by a family group of maybe 8 and 1 woman eat says “Um Yummy I want him” and they all laugh.
Very nice setup. The key with it is to give 15-20 minutes for the Himalayan to set in more before using this as a cover. Perfect balance and harmony. Pheromone effect again no increase in but effects are very slightly more consistent over the life of the molecule.
FF21/Ammo/Kadota
P132 in 3% Ammo usual 3 sprays 1 left, 1 right, 1 throat. wait 10 minutes and 1 spray left and 1 right neck.
The Kadota over powers the 3% Ammo, the Ammo very slightly comes through. It is like I am not even wearing the Ammo at all. No increase or change in pheromone effect observed. I decide to bump Ammo to 6%.
I now try 6% Ammo and it is in P74 same app points as above and same app points for the Kadota cover.
The Ammo is coming through slightly and to me these 2 clash over who is the dominant scent. The Ammo comes through then a few mintues later the Kadota comes through. This setup is confusing and seems to have many sides and people have a hard time to pick up the which scent. Very dimensional.
FF22/World/Kadota
P74 2.5MCG in 20% 1 left, 1 right, 1 throat wait 10 minutes Kadota cover 1 left 1 right neck.
I know the 20% in the P74 is high, but this is what I have. Surprisingly the World comes through and to me seamlessly blend the musk scent together even better with Kadota and tones down the sweet scent of it and bring a type of more mild boldness to the Kadota. For those that didn’t like the Kadota before the World scent together with the Kadota has changed almost everyone of there minds except 2 oput of 10 maybe so good test.
FF23/Blue Summer/Kadota
P96 2.5MCG 20% 1 left, 1 right, 1 throat wait 10 minutes Kadota cover 1 left and 1 right.
This is almost like the last test with the World scent. The Musk scent comes through more than anything. this is more of a manly bold serious setup to me. Like if I am going into a meeting with all strong manly CEO types. The Blue Summer tones down the Fig quite a bit.
A314 REV32/Kadota
1 drop each side of jawline 2 drops total. I wait 10 minutes and spray 1 spray Kadota each side of neck total 2 sprays.
I am getting more the Musk undertone coming through with the A314 and the fig and whatever Essential oils are in the A314 seem to mesh really well and everything is smooth. I am getting a lot of compliments on the scent compared to the Kadota alone. These 2 actually go very well together as they last about the same time so just perfect. The A314 with Kadota is just drawing people right in and even my wife that did not like the Kadota so much is now even kind of liking it with this setup. No increase in effect of A314. but it does seem to hit more consistent through a solid 8 hours so well worth it.
Outstanding and very complete cologne / cover scent report. You sure did well
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Thanks so much for this pioneering work.
The product is intriguing, I might get my hands on some eventually.
Hey thanks man that means a lot that these reports do mean something to someone. I like the Kadota, but not the wife so much. I have not had much time, but I am actually now trying the Kadota as a base and spray my pheromones over it to see if somehow it changes what notes come through on it.
Wife likes Himalayan a lot, but not the Kadota which I find strange as they are somewhat close.
I am actually going to down the road get some of the others for my wife and I will report on them with her being the wearer and me reporting from the other end. I will also write down what she thinks of it to.
I just wish they had the Monk or some more for men as they all are for women and I don’t know if they will get anymore in or not I should ask.
I am not so much a cologne guy, but lately I have had a big interest as scent is a huge part of what draws people in and this I have found can be the determining factor on weather the pheromone is going to be very effective for my targets or not. I have a niche with pheromones for the 40 plus age range and have found that a lot in this group are very sensitive to what they like with cologne/scent.
This is the first time I have experienced a change in scent just like how molecules can change at different doses, so I am glad I took the plunge and did this test and a huge thank you Conjurator for guiding me on what to test. This has helped me get started and know this will make me grow and how to not only tune the pheromone part of my mixes, but just as importantly the scent of them to as this is the very first and I think most important part. If they do not like the scent the pheromones don’t even have a chance.
I have a lot of work to do in the scent/cologne area and will focus more there. I usually wear more None, Rone mixes and have a few dialed in, now I just need to find a perfect scent to compliment them.
P8.. Report
I got this molecule in 20MCG 3% FF20/Himalayan. I chose this molecule because I do not see hardly any reports on this one and I know there are some really great molecules here that are not tested and I want to discover them.
I reported on the scent already and being the only molecule in the Himalayan at 3% I have tested, I don’t detect anything from the molecule scent wise besides the Himalayan.
20MCG
1 sprays to throat. I feel slightly more relaxed and the thoughts in my head seem more loud and like someone is right next to me talking right at me in my ear in a raised tone of voice. Wife is in the kitchen and I am at the table talking with her. I am able to communicate my inner most thoughts much easier than normal and even things that are not easy to talk about like issues in my marriage with a much more positive attitude. There is a little more depth to our conversations to. I am wondering if I should have got a lower MCG to test, but I am still happy at this range.
20MCG Test 2
1 spray to throat in a sweeping motion left to right. I feel a slightly cool/cocky swagger attitude and more relaxed. I go to daughters volleyball game and there are so many hot MILFS there. I know a lot of them from living in a small town. Most of them greet me and start chatting up a storm more than normal. The conversation are flowing very smoothly. I open up a few people I did not know like some of the other parents and they are very receptive of me and open right up more than I am use to. The thoughts in my head are like someone is talking right in my ear again. No sexual hits observed and all are social.
40 MCG
1 spray in sweeping motion left neck to throat and 1 right of neck to throat. Holy hell I am turning into a motor mouth and won’t shut up and I have to work to keep quite. My wife is next to me and is pretty chatty and she is normally very quite and does not talk unless someone talks to her. This thing is a 7 out 0f 10 for verbal disinhibitor. I am blurting out my inner most thoughts and I have to work hard to keep quite. Similar effects to IH and I now think it is best to wear on the wrists. My thoughts in my head are really loud now and thoughts are like a race car running through my head. This thing also puts me in a very happy/social mood and I feel I belong at a bar or club or some function socializing with people. This was more a self test, but some family did come over mom and dad and brothers and sisters after 2 hours and everyone was really loud when they did not have to be talking with each other.
60 MCG
1 left, 1 right of neck, and 1 throat. I decide to go to a bar with my gay male friends 1 is 46 and 1 is 37. We go to shoot some pool and normally we chat and play pool, but this time they seem more interested in just chatty and catching up. We start a game and it takes us an hour and a half to finish because we all are to busy chatting. The older one is blurting out his inner most thoughts and is being brutally honest about his thoughts good and bad to the point where the other asks what has gotten into him. No others effects observed at this time.
80 MCG
1 spray each side of neck 1 each forearm. I am feeling really good and very confident. With the 3% FF20/Himalayan I am still getting some self effect even from my forearms I think. At this dose there is a confidence increase. I have tested for some time and right at 60-80 MCG is my sweetspot where I feel this molecule is best for me closer to 80MCG really.
My first stop is Game Stop to buy Nephew a B Day present. I am greeted by Manager who is about 35 white total star wars nerd type normally pretty quite for the most part. After I say hello I tell him the item I want and he starts to get it and he is making random goofy comments where I am like “WTF are you talking about”? He kept catching himself and apologizing and does not know what got in to him today. He was just blurting out all kinds of things from what he was going to eat for lunch to his Halo game save and so on. I laugh and say it is all cool no worries.
Next stop is Subway to get something to eat. I walk in and there is an early 20’s blond and early 20’s Hispanic women behind the counter. I eat here often and the blond is usually quite, well not so much today. She was smiling more like a light flirty social type of smile like she was happy to see me, so right away I give her the same smile back. She seems to be having a better day than normal and this has to be this molecule at work as she was not like this when I initially walked in and hit her within 20 seconds or so of initially greeting her. She even offers me a free cookie just because after she made my sandwich which was nice of her. The other Hispanic girl is walking back and forth breathing in deeply and she says hi and makes random comments every time she walks by and no other effects observed.
Last stop is the bank. I could have easily got money from ATM, but I wanted to see this thing in action with hopefully a hot teller. I got inline and I am next as no one is on front of me and then a super hot blonde greets me and she is a 9 almost a 10. I walk up to her teller with a huge smile(I could have been DIHL to her maybe) and ask to withdraw some money. She asks if ATM is down, and I say “No I just wanted to come in to see her beautiful smile”, She lights right up like a pinball machine. She then asks how did I know I would get her as a teller? I said “I didn’t something just told me to come in and take a chance and now I am at your teller” She started just chatty up a storm and I like right at her eyes and they are pretty dilated, so I think I caught her off guard and then this molecule hit her. It may have been my choice words and not a huge hit, but I do take her chatting an awful lot as a hit. I say this to because she is all dressed up and I am in my jeans and T shirt with holes in them. I am getting a slight ringing in my ears at this dose.
120 MCG
1 left 1 right and 1 throat, 1 each forearm and 1/2 each wrists. Wow I feel very calm and relaxed, not quite sedated but borderline. At this dose my mind is normal with my thoughts and not fast or like they are talking at me. I feel like my mind is completely empty with nothing going on up there. I had an iced coffee earlier and I should still be a little wound up, and this thing just took the energy out right away. I am not tired at all just the caffeine is not working like it normally would.
A314/P96/P8..
2 drops REV32/30MCG P96/P8.. 80MCG
I normally wear TAA instead of the P8.. to church as I am new to this particular church and wanted to establish my base there and who I am so I chose A314/P96/TAA as my initial mix. It has been 7-8 times now and people know who I am so I think it is ok to swap out 1 molecule at a time should be ok so I chose to swap the TAA first because this P8.. seems to make people happy to.
This thing works great and is actually a great combo for my first one with this molecule. I feel very connected to everything and there is this synergistic effect between the P96 and this molecule. Everyone is talking to me and my family more than normal and they don’t want to let go to greet others. There is this emotional/happy connection where people don’t seem bothered by whatever they are going through in there life. Very chatty and everyone is telling us some of there inner most secrets. This has very hard hitting imprinting qualities to it as a mix and fallout I have not had a chance to confirm. People just hold on to you and see you as there knight and shining armor and like you are the answer to all of there problems.
Even after church we went to a lunch with some others and we did not talk anything related to church and I got the same effect, so it was not just the environment.
Conclusion
This thing is a verbal disinhibitor. Very happy molecule and makes conversations flow much easier. Similar to IH and also a feel good molecule. Very good as a standalone molecule unlike some others that need something to come alive. I have not tested much in a mix yet, but I know this thing will hit even harder with a sexual. Nothing sexual to it that I noticed with any of my testing. Very under tested and under rated. I find around 80MCG is my sweet spot. Almost like a blend of IO, IH, and IS. I have also got similar effects with P110, but with a feel good of like IS. I did not find a transition at all on this molecule, but what is interesting is at 120MCG and above the effects do like a 360 degree circle where anything above 120MCG was like I put nothing on at all except cologne.
Strength - I give about an 8.5 and I say that because I was torn between an 8 or 9
Length of Effects - I got 6-7 hours out of this and it does last longer than some others and this may also be due to the FF20/Himalayan at 3%
Tenacity - This thing is more a slow burner below 60MCG and at 80MCG attacks all the way.
Effectiveness & Consistency - only 1 time and that was at 40MCG did I get something different and the rest of the time at every dose it was consistent.
Diffusion/Sillage - I got a 7 foot cloud out of this thing at 5-6 sprays and at 2-4 was more like a 5-6 foot cloud. People hung on to you with this one not only scent wise, but from the molecule itself to.
Oustanding report as always. So complete. That one sounds a lot like betanol-style effects (IH and such). How would you compare it to CTTM2 or CTTM MX pack?
You know it is very similar to me as MX407 as far as the happiness of it goes. I guess between MX407, IO, and IH would be a good guess. I mean this thing had everyone blurting out what they thought that instant. They should call this one Instant Talk or Instant Thought as that is kind of how it was.
Great reporting skills… Awesome contribution to the community and a great read.. You’re a player at heart I know you could’ve had that teller right there in the bank if you wantedí ˝í¸
Wow thank you guys for all the great compliments as this is what keeps me going and I love testing these things. It is work but totally worth it.
If anyone has ANYTHING they want me to test that is in the smartmones store let me know cologne, pheromones men’s or women’s whatever they have and if I do not have it I will get it and report on it.
I have tested this one on and off for a while try to find what is good to steer it with to make it more useable for me and this is what I got.
2 Sprays
Both on neck and right away I detect the TAA at work making me in a happy mood and then the P130 is coming in and putting my mind at ease and all anxiety is gone. To me there is a synergistic effect of these 2 molecules and they are hitting hard and working together nicely. To me these 2 molecules over power the other parts in this version of ammo IMO as far as self effects. The scent is very nice and not as loud or in so much in your face like the regular version. After 2-3 hours go by the combination of this scent and the None in this reminds me of the same smell as A1.
Environment is work and wanted to see how men would react and if I would lose respect with this on. I work with all white men 50 plus(I am 36). I get to work like normal and expose everyone to the new signature and they are all more friendly, lively, and in a good mood. We get to the job site and which we are pouring concrete and is outdoors no wind about 75 degrees in the morning. we get setup and then 3 hours later we have to get a skin cancer screening. The scent is barely there and almost gone by now 4 hours after application, but I can still feel the effects are there. I walk in and there is a middle 30’s Hispanic women maybe a 7 taking my paperwork. Within a few minutes of talking to her I notice her pupils are dialed a little and she is smiling more. I joke with her a few minutes and then she starts looking me up and down and I just give her a big smile and then think to myself what the hell and give her a wink to. She starts blushing with a big grin.
Finally a red head middle 50’s red head woman about a 6 calls me back. I get undressed so she can check my skin. She asks me a few questions and then she is feeling my skin and in kind of in a more sensual/sexual way and is not normal to me, but hey I don’t mind and roll with it. She is smiling and even checks like and inch from my cock and feels around quite a bit. I finally get done and get back to the job site and ask the other guys that got the same screening from the same lady if they got the same experience and they laughed at me and said yeah right like they didn’t believe me, but I know what happened and it is all good. They said they got nothing like that from her.
3 sprays
1 left, 1 right neck and 1/2 each wrist. I put this one day after I got home from work and showered as my goal is to see how wife reacts to it.
Right away she detects the scent and really likes it as I don’t wear much of this scent. So she decides to sit on the couch right next to me and her pupils are dilated quite a bit. She starts rubbing my leg and says we need to spend more quality time together and enjoy each other more(wife is 40). Now normally she does not come right out and do and say things like this as she usually is more reserved and I have to open her up a little bit. An hour goes by and we are ready for be and things get intense and we have very hot passionate sex. She normally reacts to the Regular Ammo much better to TUTH and this also seems to be the case with the Summer Ammo to.
In fact the P130 in this thing helps her overcome her anxiety of what I think of her and her body(She is a little heavier and very self conscious).
3 sprays
Setting is work again and this will be last one to see if I lose any respect/status with guys at work, Actually this went smooth as about what I got the last few times I have tried at work. Everyone was in a good mood and the P130 just seems to relieve any tension in the air that may be there. The TAA also sets the stage for a great day also. I did not lose any respect or status that I could tell. With this one they are much more friendly and still do what I ask of them.
Thoughts so far
I think like regular Ammo this is very balanced and with the 2 extra ingredients steers this thing to more of a social/fun mix. I am convinced I can use this with success with work and the older crowds to and my theory is I can do this by adding either or None or Rone depending on what my goals are .
3 sprays S. Ammo/2.5MCG Androsterone
I chose this to try and make this a better mix for the older crowds. I put the Rone on my throat and right away I feel a boost and more status so this is perfect. The S.Ammo was on left and right neck and 1/2 spray each wrist.
I get to doctors office and 4o white woman greets me. She has a big smile on makes some small chat and I go along with it and then she gives me some paper work to fill out. I fill it out and return to the desk and go to hand her the pen back and she winks and says it is yours handsome. I crack a great big smile and sit down.
I see a family friend there 60 Hispanic male so I sit next to him. He starts talking to me and seems more interested in what is going on in my life than he has ever showed interest in the past. I even try to change the direction of the conversation to focus on him, but he kept redirecting at me like he wanted to know everything about my life. I am thinking the S. Ammo is already balanced and probably could have used 1-2 MCG and had good luck to.
I finally get back to see the doctor and explain my problem with my pain and want to know my options and firmly I let him know that I am not going to keep coming back each month to keep trying things that are not working and tell him what I want and I give him some options.
Well to my surprise he actually went for them and said sure no problem let’s try them out. Doctor was 50 white male. I think the extra Rone along with the TAA, and P130 had something to due with this. He was more quite than normal and very attentive to any and all my needs and wants. I am very intrigued now with this S. Ammo as I have had luck with regular Ammo at work when steered right.
Next stop is an older couple’s home both 60 for some lunch. This will be the first time I see there home or where they live. I get there and the both greet me with a hug. The man is showing me his car collection and all his cool gadgets and I feel like he is going a little overboard trying to impress me and feel the is due to the add Rone as he has never acted like that around me before. This went on for 2 hours and then finally we eat lunch. She goes all out cooking a 7 course meal even though I told her I could not stay long and she is treating my like she is my personal maid. Now this is kind if freaking me out as I am not use to this. I know them both really well and they are never this over the top so the add Rone in my book is a total success for use on older people. I have worn 3 sprays S.Ammo around them before and never got this VIP treatment like this.
More Thoughts
The only 3 I think I will need with this for just about anything is Androstenone, Androsterone, and Hedione. With these 3 I think this thing could be steered for almost anything. The S. Ammo is already pretty balanced so I am thinking even 1-2MCG Rone or None should work great. I can confirm the A1 smell of the S. Ammo after a few hours after initial applictation and believe it is due to Androstenone and the scent.
3 Sprays/2 Dabs Hedione
all 3 are on my neck and 1 dab Hedione on each wrist. The Hedione is does take away a little from the Rone, but ever so slightly and the None is in full effect. Setting was outdoors at a swap meet packed with people. I still get the respect from strangers and other guys, just not like before. But I got a hell of a lot more attention from women so it is a tradeoff with the Rone/Hedione and got the same results with my A314 also. I got 7 out of 10 women to smile at me and from all ages 15-65 and all races to. I opened a few of the women up and they all were very open. 1 was a Hispanic 25, another 42 white, and then another 57 Indian woman.
I did not take things to far but most of them were DIHL or very close. The Hedione really adds a WOW factor and just really punches the mix.
2 Sprays S. Ammo/2.5MCG Androstenone
I chose this because I wanted to see what the extra None would do to the Summer Ammo. My sister is turning 20 and will be having about 20 people over men and women most around 20-25. They all get there and I am try to make my way around the house to meet everyone and to be social. Everyone was really responsive men and women and everything went well. One guy who is 22 was on my left and his sister who is 15 sits on my right. We make small talk and eventually he leaves and I am left with his 15 year old sister. I realized that she was just brought along by her brother and has no one to talk to her so I make small chat with her. Everyone else is smoking pot but her and I. She is a 8-9. She kept smiling at me and like she was waiting for me to decide what we talk about. So we chat for a while and she says" I really like you and we should hang out sometime". I thank her and say I am to old for her and I am married. She then felt embarrassed and I said hey don not worry everything is cool ok.
I need to test more but I have enough data to know that this Summer Ammo is not just for the younger crowd and can be steered in other directions fairly easy.
Puppy Love Report
I have had this one a while and another member mentioned it so I thought I would report on it as there is really no reports on it. There is a men’s and women version of this and I have the men’s one and it is Blue Summer scent. I will post the links where you can get to it from the Androtics Store.
Men’s Version
https://pheromonelabs.com/
Women’s Version
https://a314.com/
Now I do not know if the formula is different or not, but I do believe the scent is and if anything is inaccurate please post and I will correct this report.
1/2 Spray
I got the miss piss spray 1/2 or so and was to the throat. I almost always start with my throat to evaluate for self effects. This is Blue Summer and I am not sure the scent strength but smells like it is stronger than the 6% and could be 15% I do not know for sure. Right away I get a soft/crush kind of like my first crush in 6th grade feeling. I got a small butterfly feeling in my stomach almost like I did with IS/B when I tested that which is great. I am having strong empathetic feelings towards wife and daughter like what they are going thru with stress of school (my wife is a kindergarten teacher) and chores and such. I am also getting a very soft masculine vibe and if I really had to describe things it would be like A1/P96/P74 mix to me with a small amount of IG and IS/B. I do not know how else to describe it. There is definitely more of a Beta feeling to it and it does lack power to it. Daughter is in a better mood as she is 11 and is changing and has an attitude towards me most of the time and she actually wants to spend time with me and I feel this is ok and there is nothing sexual with her feelings as I do respect younger people and what I use around them. Wife is more touchy and smiling more and I am getting more emotions out of her as she has no emotional side or emotional attachment to anything. For 1/2 a spray I feel this thing is strong.
4 Sprays
I decide to just go crazy and really turn this thing loose. 1 each side of neck and 1 each forearm to spread the cloud around. Oh man this thing gives me huge butterfly effect in the stomach. I felt very emotional almost borderline uncomfortable with the great feeling as I have never experienced anything like this great feeling. Reminds me of when I would take high amounts of DHEA 25MCG(I am 36 and this would be very high for my age) where I would feel great with the good side of the effects of DHEA. Feelings and emotions were somewhat all over the place but in a good way. Wife was off the chart touchy and giddy and we could not keep our hands off each other. This thing at this dose is like instant fall in love. Things were going great until we went to the store. We went to get some groceries and our daughter was with us and she was in a great mood and then out of no where became very bratty and selfish way more than normal and kind of out of hand. So much that wife and her got in a big fight and we had to come home. I have tested this around them with 2 sprays and it was ok and 4 might be OD and puts the feelings and emotions into overdrive. There is this love/hate pull with this dose where it needs some type of emotional stabilizer or this is plain OD territory.
2 Sprays
Like some guys have issues with A1 this is borderline for me so I spray 1 spray to each wrist to minimize the self effects. Even with this I get a very small amount. This was the very next day after the 4 spray episode so again we go to town to get groceries and things are much calmer and this seems to be my sweet spot or very close at least. Everyone seems pretty stable with emotions besides daughter being a little needy, but we are ok for now to manage.
We get there and we start shopping and go down the pasta aisle and there is this super hot blonde almost a 10 white early 40’s and soon as I see her I about fall in love with her and had to remind myself this was the effects of the PL hitting me and had to work hard to control my feelings in front of wife. I pretend to be looking at something to let wife and kid go around the corner, then after they do I walk right behind her and stand there for a minute to pretend to look at something and then turn around and look right at her and she does the same and it was like instant sparks flying and we were both DIHL. This happened over a 10 second period or so and I say hi and she says hi and then I walk off down towards the end of the aisle. It was like we both got a fallen in love at first site type of feeling. I got to the end and looked back and she did the same and then I walked around the corner to meet up with wife and told her I had to use restroom and went in there to take a deep breath and analyze what the hell just happened. This thing has very strong emotional feelings to it.
2 sprays PL/7.5MCG TAA
I put 1 spray on each wrist of PL and I have 2.5MCG 6% Neroli and spray 1 each side of neck and 1 to throat.
The reason I chose this setup was to try and stabilize my mood a little more with the PL and make me feel more comfortable with my emotional level. It is Sunday and I chose this for church out of all places as I want to test everywhere even when the environment does not call for it(why not for fun). Even with wrist app I am getting self effect from this, but I feel in a good mood and ok with my feelings. I have noticed that every test I have done I have a very lustful eye for any decent looking woman and desire to have them to. I have also noticed there is a major beautifying effect where it makes people go from like a 6 to an 8 or 9. I have noticed I just find everyone good looking and there is no flaws physically with people men and women and I have not noted this because I wanted to confirm this first. This does effect men to and looking back I did notice how men were more connected to me and helpful. At church people feel the need to touch me to way more than normal which I am ok with. One of the usher’s who is 28 Hispanic male even offers to go get me coffee which has never happened before and he insists. So he gets me a cup and then insists if it is not right he will go fix it if I need more cream or sugar or whatever. I say no it is perfect and then he says “thank you for letting him serve me” which I find very odd as this is not like this guy at all. He normally does bare minimum for anyone.
Then the lady behind us 75 white that normally sits behind us gets up and sits right next to me and is DIHL and I don’t know what to think of this as she is like my grandmother. She is chatting up a storm with me and saying nice things like she likes my haircut and my shirt. Now she is normally friendly, but not this this extent.
Then the man in front of me 60 white male that normally sits there looks back and is doing the same thing as the 75 granny lady WTF. He is normally nice to but he is chatting up a storm with me to and both of these people interact with me and my family, but today it was just me like they were not even there. Wife even comments on this and asks what is going on? I say hey no worries all is good.
So we finally to service and then when it is over we quickly leave so we can get home as I know if things would have continued the way the were going I would have never got out of there. One thing to note is that older people 45-50 seem much more emotionally stable with the PL than the younger crowd. Anything under 20 seem to be very emotionally stable and thought I was ok using around our daughter, but I would not use around younger people or at least minimize the exposure as they may not be able to handle there feelings as the older crowd.
2 Sprays PL/2 sprays S. Ammo
2 sprays of PL on wrists and 1 spray of S. Ammo each side of neck.
Now I chose this because I feel the PL could use some None to add more attraction to the PL and in case I run into any younger people I hope the S. Ammo will help with the emotional roller coaster ride.
I got to doctor’s office for a check up and right away an early 40’s woman greets me and even remembers my name(last time I wore A314/P96/IS) and the P96 left a mark in her mind about me. She was borderline DIHL and looks right at me with a big smile and had a dreamy eye look and was flirty more than last time. She then gives me a nice new fancy pen to fill out some paperwork and says keep it, and that is a special pen. I say thanks a special pen from a very special lady,(she knows I am married) and then she says to bad you are married and that I am just her type. I smile and sit down and begin to fill out my paperwork. Now the S.Ammo adds some attraction to this and really makes this thing hit hard. The PL definitely needs some None to make it come alive. I see a family friend male 60’s Hispanic. He sat next to me and we chat and he is very sympathetic to my leg pain(I hope I used the right word). He puts his hand on my arm and says if I ever need anything to call him and then he leaves.
I finally get to see the doctor and explain my foot pain and what are my options. Now last time I wanted some pain killers a small dose like 5MG of Vicodin just enough to help sleep at night and to ease my pain and he would not budge and give me a dam thing. Well this time he opened right up and was willing to give me whatever I wanted. Now mind you last time I wore A314/P96/IS and this did not even budge him on anything. So I agreed I did not want opioid based pain killers and we agreed to Gabapytin and Lidocaine patches which I am very happy with.
I am blown away how the PL/S. Ammo combo got me what I wanted pretty much and the A314/P96/IS did not and I hope someone can share there thoughts on this one. I am thinking the PL created this emotional sympathetic response from him and this was a much softer mix and played on his emotions where the A314 made it appear as I am tougher and can manage the pain I don’t know.
After here I went to an older couples house I am friends with they are both 60 and it is now 3 hours after initial application and this is the first time I have been to there home. Right away they both are very happy to see me. I feel the Rone from the S. Ammo is coming though a little to add to the PL as they both are trying to impress me more than normal which I find odd with S. Ammo. He is showing me his car collection and some of the patents he has got awards for. We eat lunch and his wife is serving me hand and foot which I feel uncomfortable about as I am nearly half there age. Again I do not know if it is the level of emotional/feeling attachment or if the S. Ammo helps the Beta vibe here of the PL.
Very good day of testing and very eye opening.
2 Sprays PL/3 sprays S. Ammo
Now my sister is having a B Day party and will have a lot of friends over her age so I chose this to try and make the PL manageable for the younger crowd. Everyone gets there(this is at my dads house) and I am serving everyone and trying to help play host to make everyone feel comfortable. Everyone is very open with me and very responsive and treats me like one of them and not my sisters older brother. An hour goes by and everyone sets in and one of the guys is 24 that my sister likes and he brings his 15 year old sister white.
Now I sit next to her and making small chat to try and make her feel welcome as she is much younger than the rest. within 10 minutes everyone moves around and it is just her and I sitting next to each other. She is flipping hair and smiling at me a lot. She knows I am not married and wife and kid are not with me. She kept giving me compliments and even touching my arm a lot. I am uncomfortable with this and then she offers me her phone number and says we should hang out sometime. I was totally hit on and I thanked her and said she seems like a nice girl and said I could not accept as my wife might not be happy. This was a risk as I was worried of upsetting her and she could pull some crap. She thanked me and said she respected that and we stayed chatting and had a good night. I could have totally took advantage as all the signals were there and she seemed willing, but I just could not do that. Eventually everyone left and I cleaned up the mess.
My Thoughts
PL is very strong emotionally almost to strong for me and would start very low and treat it like TUTH. Now PL is my goto for that special bonding time at night with the wife. PL could use a low dose of None and Rone like Ammo or A314 to get rid of the Beta feeling and turn up the sexual power, but would come at a cost of the emotional roller coaster ride. S. Ammo seemed to fit me and smooth this part of it out well for me because of the Rone, None, and TAA and P130 played a part to as well as the Nol in it.
Strength - To me I give this thing a 10 as it is really powerful molecule wise and scent wise an 8.
Length of Effects- I got a solid 6 hours with lingering effects for 8-9 hours.
Tenacity - This thing is an attacker all the way.
Effectiveness & Consistency - Now this is very tricky as the emotional roller coaster ride I got out of it and you just did not know what you were going to get under 40 solo, over 40 it was very consistent.
Diffusion/Sillage - The mone cloud could reach 8 feet indoors when under a ceiling fan I found out, and outdoors was closer to 4-5 feet.
Great report. This sounds like some crazy potent stuff. I’ll look into it.
Yeah the PL was really powerful and this is my honest and fair report about it. The PL could use 1-2 MCG of None to really help things along in the bedroom. It is was worth every penny for that stuff for sure. I think it needs very light steering compared to other things.
I am getting ready to maybe make another order and I want to ask everyone what they would like to see tested and I will test it and I may already even have it and just not got to it. So whoever comes in and says what they want tested consider it done just give me 1-2 weeks to really get into it and give a good report. Also if I am missing anything in my reports let me know and I will report on that aspect of that molecules or mix.
What does PL stand for? Doesn’t sound like any product on here I know of.
PL = Puppy Love ![]()
I just finished reading your PL report. WOW!!!
That’s is a GREAT report. It definitely inspired me to test this product. Untill now it always sounded kind of boring to me but it looks like I was wrong. Already added it to the shopping list.