# Kia Ora from New Zealand! **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [August 27, 2008, 8:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kia-ora-from-new-zealand/18340 "2008-08-27T08:01:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MamaBecs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mamabecs/32/1907_2.png) [@MamaBecs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MamaBecs)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 8:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kia-ora-from-new-zealand/18340/1 "2008-08-27T08:01:03Z")
Hi, everyone! I’m a 30-year-old lesbian from NZ, with a problem known as involuntary celibacy. In short, it means I can’t score. At times in my life, I have been thin and reasonably attractive, but to no avail. I behave the same way all my non-celibate friends do and no one can see why I would miss out, but I still do. I’m certainly not shy and I don’t lack ‘game’ – except for experience and a decent array of choices. It’s my belief that this has probably happened because I am an apple-shaped woman – and waist-to-hip ratio is still the primary determinant of female attractiveness. However, I’d like to try using [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) to overcome the obstacles caused by my frame and body shape. It’s encouraging to see lesbians on this forum, but a bit unnerving to notice that there aren’t many clear-cut suggestions yet. I wait with interest to hear what others have tried. ---
**Author:** ![Tenant](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tenant/32/1668_2.png) [@Tenant](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tenant)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 10:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kia-ora-from-new-zealand/18340/2 "2008-08-27T10:07:12Z")
> [@MamaBecs](#): > > Hi, everyone! I’m a 30-year-old lesbian from NZ, with a problem known as involuntary celibacy. In short, it means I can’t score. At times in my life, I have been thin and reasonably attractive, but to no avail. I behave the same way all my non-celibate friends do and no one can see why I would miss out, but I still do. I’m certainly not shy and I don’t lack ‘game’ – except for experience and a decent array of choices. > > It’s my belief that this has probably happened because I am an apple-shaped woman – and waist-to-hip ratio is still the primary determinant of female attractiveness. However, I’d like to try using pheromones to overcome the obstacles caused by my frame and body shape. > > It’s encouraging to see lesbians on this forum, but a bit unnerving to notice that there aren’t many clear-cut suggestions yet. I wait with interest to hear what others have tried. Hey Welcome! “Involuntary Celibacy,” hahah I like that description. Well, it certainly sounds like you are not shy to initiate, so lets see if we can give you a pheromonal attack angle. I’m not too familiar with the female products, but if the the women’s [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) guide sticky is anything like the men’s (check the women’s forum) then that would be a good place to start reading. Good luck with your pursuits. ---
**Author:** ![K24](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k24/32/1513_2.png) [@K24](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K24)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 10:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kia-ora-from-new-zealand/18340/3 "2008-08-27T10:54:27Z")
Hello there welcome to the forum 🙂 very interesting intro, oh and i believe there are quite a few lesbians on this forum HEHEHE, they are probably hidden most of the time 😃 I’m not very familiar with womens products and your situation is also unique so i think someone more experienced than me will give you some good advices. in the mean time check out the stickies if you havent done so already. have fun 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![theperv584](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theperv584/32/890_2.png) [@theperv584](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/theperv584)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2008, 11:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kia-ora-from-new-zealand/18340/4 "2008-08-27T11:37:33Z")
Hi MamaBecs! Welcome, and it seems like we have something in common: we like girls! 😃 Like K24 said, we do have some lesbians also here- why not head over to the women’s forum and ask for advice. They will help you get some ideas for your first purchase. Good luck! Kai ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2008, 12:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kia-ora-from-new-zealand/18340/5 "2008-08-28T00:35:53Z")
Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 The lesbian clientèle is slowly increasing so more and more posts are being made that can help you in choosing mones. Generally lesbians would use the same mones straight women use to attract men. This is because lesbians are attracted to [female pheromones](https://phera.com/). I suggest you start with Ishine and IH which are unisex and try some Instant sexiness A which is the more alpha of the two varieties. If you have questions just ask. We look forward to your participation in the forum. **Your GC is on its way.** 😃 Tisha