# kia ora! **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [June 12, 2007, 5:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kia-ora/4079 "2007-06-12T05:22:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![schwing\_meister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecc23a/32.png) [@schwing\_meister](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/schwing_meister)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 5:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kia-ora/4079/1 "2007-06-12T05:22:30Z")
Hello from New Zealand! Late 30’s male and regular user of [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) to enhance relationships with others. I’m a bit standoffish at times so find these products helps others to warm to me quicker. No, I’m not a no mates loser that needs them. Just find they help to “break the ice” sometimes and make working with others easier. Rock on!😃 ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2007, 8:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kia-ora/4079/2 "2007-06-12T08:02:40Z")
Welcome. What’s a “no mates loser”? Never heard that phrase. Somebody who goes to some bar etc without any friends with him? What’s the loser in that? Sounds a bit rude actually. Which pheromones so have you used so far? ---
**Author:** ![schwing\_meister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecc23a/32.png) [@schwing\_meister](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/schwing_meister)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 2:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kia-ora/4079/3 "2007-06-13T02:19:27Z")
> [@Phoenix](#): > > Welcome. > Thanks! > > \>What’s a “no mates loser”? Never heard that phrase. > umm, exactly as it sounds… > > \>Somebody who goes to some bar etc without any friends with him? > I do that often as I know most the regulars anyway, don’t have any problem with going out by myself as I’ve meet a lot of good friends that way. > > \>What’s the loser in that? Sounds a bit rude actually. > Thats the difference between men and woman , guys don’t mind going to the local bar by themselves. Woman think your are either a bit odd or a man thats comfortable with himself and doesn’t care what others think… I’m the latter. Not sure where the rude comes in… > > \>Which pheromones so have you used so far? I’m new to this forum and thought I’d check out the word on the the products sold here , I have a few products from the “love scent store”. Is it ok to mention names? Maybe my initial post sounded a bit harsh but It wasn’t meant to. All I was trying to say was that I use [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) to help me in my (mainly) work relationships , not because I need to but because I’ve seen the positive results many times over. Anyway, looking forward to chatting with you lot and finding some new products to add to my collection! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 5:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kia-ora/4079/4 "2007-06-13T05:44:53Z")
Heya Schwing! I’m curious too.. what other products have you tried before? I love that you have previous experience! You probably have your own slew of tricks and tips to share here that we haven;t heard of! 🙂 Funny thng about a lot of the phero users I know is that it seems like they totally don’t even need them. They’re like you… Just using them for an extra edge. Have fun! Your gift cert has been sent 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 11:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kia-ora/4079/5 "2007-06-13T11:46:06Z")
Hi Schwing meister! You can definitely talk about Love-Scent products here … lots of us have been customers there and “met” on that forum. I hear you about pheromones helping to break the ice; they work for me that way, too. Hope to hear more from you! ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 11:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kia-ora/4079/6 "2007-06-13T11:53:07Z")
> [@schwing\_meister](#): > > \>What’s a “no mates loser”? Never heard that phrase. > umm, exactly as it sounds… > > \>Somebody who goes to some bar etc without any friends with him? > I do that often as I know most the regulars anyway, don’t have any problem with going out by myself as I’ve meet a lot of good friends that way. > > \>What’s the loser in that? Sounds a bit rude actually. > Thats the difference between men and woman , guys don’t mind going to the local bar by themselves. Woman think your are either a bit odd or a man thats comfortable with himself and doesn’t care what others think… I’m the latter. Not sure where the rude comes in… You put your replies in my quotes.. Anyway IMHO loser can be an offensive term the way it was implied towards others (some of us?). But thanks for clarifying. ---
**Author:** ![schwing\_meister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecc23a/32.png) [@schwing\_meister](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/schwing_meister)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2007, 12:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kia-ora/4079/7 "2007-06-14T00:06:54Z")
> [@Phoenix](#): > > You put your replies in my quotes.. > Anyway IMHO loser can be an offensive term the way it was implied towards others (some of us?). > But thanks for clarifying. mmm, Sorry about the quoting in the reply , I’m no email or forum writing expert and must have not noticed it at the time but I’m sure as you seem like a smart man that you understood what I was saying. Just don’t start on my grammer or spelling please… If you read my initial post again you may see that I was referring to myself not being a loser , if you think that i was inferring to other users as losers I don’t think you read it as it was intended. Email/typing can be a tricky thing without the ability to read facial expressions and other cues , don’t be so defensive! :o I’ve never used the androtics products before but am willing to try them out so hence why I’m here. At the moment from “love Scent” I have… Chikara scented & unscented: two sprays is my friend! SOE/m unscented: 12 inches rolled on works well on my openness , otherwise mix with 2 sprays of chikara for instant great friends. NPA: carefull on this one , two dabs with SOE is the bomb. literally! Alpha 7: still working on this one but two dabs again is pretty good. AE scented: havn’t used for a while but 3 drops works magic with dark skinned ladies. Even though I’m naturally heavy in none, just a dab or two can bring out “the animal” in woman around me. I don’t use it at work but only sometimes when I go out on the town, (not that it happens very often anymore) The most interesting thing is that mid 30’s and upwards woman who are “strong” seem to gravitate towards me, even when I don’t wear any 'mones. Younger under 30’s just don’t interest me , they try but I like a “mature” woman around my own age… Now, for work… Usually it’s just SOE or chikara or a mix of the two. Because of my job I spend a lot of time getting to know people very well and don’t feel that it’s appropriate to get all “sexed up”. To put it another way, if a complaint was made against me by a jealous woman my career would be f_cked. Guys I work with get it on with others but I’d rather be known as the one who is more professional and doesn’t sleep with clients. I’ve found that SOE helps me to open up as well , as the strong silent type it helps me to come across as a bit more mellow and less intense. I’m not intense, just not very good at bullsh_t polite small talk. When I interact with people and am honest in my intentions they seem to pick up on it and reply in kind. Some of the things I’ve found out about people within a short amount of time are pretty interesting! (Is this one of the longest intitial posts yet???) Me: just so you get a picture of what I look like. mid 30’s , actually, 38 next month 😮 5’9" , around 80kgs/ 12 stone don’t know pounds… black hair , blue eyes and am often mistaken as being 10 years younger. single , dad of two teenagers. I like woman, and sometimes the odd dude if he’s got it going on… (Holy crap, anymore information and I might as well give you my phone number!) That’s it for now…