# Killer kit leakage **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 16, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/killer-kit-leakage/59339 "2013-06-16T21:14:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![happyoreo123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9adbd/32.png) [@happyoreo123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happyoreo123)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/killer-kit-leakage/59339/1 "2013-06-16T21:14:05Z")
Hello, ive reiceved my kit a while ago, and out of the 8 togo bottles 6 were either empty or 3/4s empty.. šŸ˜• I really want to try ammo and instant gentlemen but it leaked on the way here im asssuming. If you can help it would be greatly appreciated, I can provide pictures if needed. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 1:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/killer-kit-leakage/59339/2 "2013-06-17T01:43:02Z")
Take a couple of snaps of the levels in the togos (peel back the labels a little if you need to) and upload them when you raise a support ticket with Mickaelia. They donā€™t handle order issues on the forums for security reasons. This is what Iā€™ve done whenever Iā€™ve had a problem with leakage and she has sorted it out very effectively. ---
**Author:** ![happyoreo123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9adbd/32.png) [@happyoreo123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happyoreo123)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 10:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/killer-kit-leakage/59339/3 "2013-06-17T10:41:20Z")
kk thanks man. ---
**Author:** ![happyoreo123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9adbd/32.png) [@happyoreo123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happyoreo123)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 10:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/killer-kit-leakage/59339/4 "2013-06-17T10:42:12Z")
Quick question though, where can I raise a support ticket? Do I go on help? ---
**Author:** ![Ylts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@Ylts](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ylts)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 11:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/killer-kit-leakage/59339/5 "2013-06-17T11:15:54Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Take a couple of snaps of the levels in the togos (peel back the labels a little if you need to) and upload them when you raise a support ticket with Mickaelia. They donā€™t handle order issues on the forums for security reasons. > > This is what Iā€™ve done whenever Iā€™ve had a problem with leakage and she has sorted it out very effectively. i did that with my leaked bottles and i got replay from them and then i replayed back and no answer ever since šŸ˜• ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 11:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/killer-kit-leakage/59339/6 "2013-06-17T11:55:12Z")
It is [support@androticsdirect.com](mailto:support@androticsdirect.com) Or you can raise a ticket here: [https://support.androticsdirect.com](https://androtics.zendesk.com/home) ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/killer-kit-leakage/59339/7 "2013-06-17T17:38:32Z")
This isnā€™t common is it? I just made an order and now Iā€™m nervous. This could be grounds to think twice about ordering in the future. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 1:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/killer-kit-leakage/59339/8 "2013-06-18T01:14:58Z")
Its not as bad as it was a couple of years back when they had a batch of duff togos that tended to leak if someone farted in the vicinity but yes, it can happen - Togos and the pressure in aircraft holds donā€™t go too well together. I must say this is why I tend to order 30mls wherever possible as they are far less prone to leakage - the worst Iā€™ve ever had with them is a little bit of misting in the cap. ADā€™s normal response to this is exemplary though, so any problems just raise a ticket - and escalate to John if Mickaelia canā€™t get it sorted in a few days. I understand she is snowed-under just now and has had PC probs but I expect the normal service will be resumed soon. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 6:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/killer-kit-leakage/59339/9 "2013-06-18T06:54:52Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Its not as bad as it was a couple of years back when they had a batch of duff togos that tended to leak if someone farted in the vicinity but yes, it can happen - Togos and the pressure in aircraft holds donā€™t go too well together. > > I must say this is why I tend to order 30mls wherever possible as they are far less prone to leakage - the worst Iā€™ve ever had with them is a little bit of misting in the cap. > > ADā€™s normal response to this is exemplary though, so any problems just raise a ticket - and escalate to John if Mickaelia canā€™t get it sorted in a few days. I understand she is snowed-under just now and has had PC probs but I expect the normal service will be resumed soon. šŸ™‚ Thanks, I will definitely keep that in mind. 30ml is just a better deal all around. ---
**Author:** ![Osamitra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/osamitra/32/1505_2.png) [@Osamitra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Osamitra)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2013, 7:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/killer-kit-leakage/59339/10 "2013-06-18T19:57:04Z")
when they arrive, are they supposed to be completley full or 3/4ths full? all of mine were at 3/4ths or less, so I thought 3/4ths was ā€œfullā€. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 1:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/killer-kit-leakage/59339/11 "2013-06-19T01:05:04Z")
There should be a bit of airspace at the top, to a little below the end of the sprayer threads. Does that sound about right? I donā€™t have one to hand. ---
**Author:** ![Osamitra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/osamitra/32/1505_2.png) [@Osamitra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Osamitra)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 7:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/killer-kit-leakage/59339/12 "2013-06-19T07:05:10Z")
sprayer threads? if you mean the thread of the screw on part, then no. All of mine are well below that partā€¦I finally peeled back the labels on my tuth as well and that one is half full and I only used 1 spray of it. I suppose I will take pictures and upload a support ticket, but my problem is that my order arrived 2 weeks ago, I was sick for most of them and did not realize the extent of the leakage till I read through this thread and you recommended pulling back the labelsā€¦ do you thnk they will still help? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 7:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/killer-kit-leakage/59339/13 "2013-06-19T07:17:32Z")
Explain this to her - I hope she will. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Osamitra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/osamitra/32/1505_2.png) [@Osamitra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Osamitra)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 7:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/killer-kit-leakage/59339/14 "2013-06-19T07:25:08Z")
thanks for your help, I would never of know how much they had leaked without your help, or what to actually do about it. ---
**Author:** ![happyoreo123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9adbd/32.png) [@happyoreo123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happyoreo123)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 1:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/killer-kit-leakage/59339/15 "2013-06-19T13:42:47Z")
I explained this almjost same situation to her, and she said sheā€™ll offer me a gift certificate -\_- ---
**Author:** ![XyzN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xyzn/32/2416_2.png) [@XyzN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XyzN)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 7:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/killer-kit-leakage/59339/16 "2013-06-19T19:10:38Z")
> [@happyoreo123](#): > > I explained this almjost same situation to her, and she said sheā€™ll offer me a gift certificate -\_- if itā€™s worth 25$ and youā€™re talking about one of the to-go versions, you should be happy! Not only do you still have your somewhat empty mones, youll be able to order another! +an extra 5$ (if it costed you 20$). or even if you have to return said items, you can give yourself a chance to rethink if you want to repurchase those items again after some more research. ---
**Author:** ![happyoreo123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9adbd/32.png) [@happyoreo123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happyoreo123)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 11:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/killer-kit-leakage/59339/17 "2013-06-19T23:21:10Z")
i spend 100 bucks, and I get back a 25 dollar giftcard? Thereā€™s something wrong here.. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 1:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/killer-kit-leakage/59339/18 "2013-06-20T01:47:22Z")
The GC can be for **any amount** in this situation - the occasion I was offered one, it more than covered the cost of the lost pheros on my next order. That was when a couple of togos in a larger order of mostly 30mls leaked. When an entire order of togos showed varying amounts of leakage, she had the whole lot replaced by return, incl the ones that showed very little leakage - and I was told to keep the remains of the duff order. So it depends and thatā€™s why a couple of snaps help to sort it fairly. ---
**Author:** ![happyoreo123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9adbd/32.png) [@happyoreo123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happyoreo123)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 11:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/killer-kit-leakage/59339/19 "2013-06-20T11:26:30Z")
Thank you. Ive already sent her some photos, so everything should go by smoothly. Ill keep posting if no solutions are met. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2013, 9:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/killer-kit-leakage/59339/20 "2013-06-21T09:49:29Z")
In an upcoming order, I literally asked them to seal the TOGO, including the cap and threads, with packing tape. I also asked Mick if the lab might allow putatives (especially ones only in 5mL) to be decanted into a 30 mL bottle. Youā€™d purchase the 5 mL and an empty bottle. Theyā€™d put 5 mL of product into a more secure bottle. They might even allow purchasing product in 5 mL quantities: pay for 10 mL and the bottle, get a 30 mL filled with 10 mL. Whenever customs and shipping are involved, I have to think this would make for many more happier customers. From what I read, even Sephora atomizers leak on planes. Itā€™s barometric pressure and the little white or clear gasket. Pressure makes it diffuse through the threads, I do believe. Many products I just donā€™t test because of concerns about this. I donā€™t think itā€™s directly under Androticsā€™ control. Itā€™s the bottle design. Not airtight. Negative air pressure sucks it right out, just as if you opened the cabin door at 30,000 ft. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/killer-kit-leakage/59339.md?page=2)