# King of the world mix: how MX147 kept a heavily sexual mix social and open

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [January 7, 2007, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/king-of-the-world-mix-how-mx147-kept-a-heavily-sexual-mix-social-and-open/1454 "2007-01-07T19:23:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2007, 3:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/king-of-the-world-mix-how-mx147-kept-a-heavily-sexual-mix-social-and-open/1454/9 "2007-01-22T15:59:00Z")

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> [@sigma](#):
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> As far as the putatives go, I’ve gotten a fairly good handle on P79, but I’m trying to learn how to use P83. I seem to OD with P83 at anything above 25mcg, and it causes me to feel pretty aggitated…it fades within about an hour, so I’m thinking its a pretty fast diffusing pheromone. There’s defiantely an aggressiveness to P83…it isn’t really none-like, but high dose none+ high dose P83 definately doesn’t work out. Might work better with P79.
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> P79 + none is a hit though. P79 seems to take the sexual notes of none further with less of the negative effects. I seem to get good results with P79 at around 20-30mcg…though I’ve yet to hit an ‘upper limit’ with it. I’d like to see if a higher dose of P79 with maybe a dash of P83 could work just as well as none, without the negatives

Sigma, lots of good information here. I was wondering if you noticed anything about the diffusivity of P79. You say P83 diffuses fast? Are you using them with DPG/[Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/), or with other scents?

I am also curious as to the lower limit of P79, I seem to be getting good results with maybe 10 mcg amounts. I agree with accentuation of positive -none aspects with P79. It adds approachability in my opinion and more overt IOIs. But I have noticed it doesn’t last very long (~1 hour). I have P79 with Akuto. I am wondering if it needs refreshing every hour at very small amounts instead of putting all at the same time. Like say 2.5 mcg/hr, starting with an initial 10 mcg on you.

I also recall Tacitus’ post on using low P83, like 10 mcg tops, although he did later report results on 50 mcg P79/P83 combo.

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