# King of the world mix: winning over an unresponsive woman with MX147 and putatives

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**Created:** [January 7, 2007, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/king-of-the-world-mix-winning-over-an-unresponsive-woman-with-mx147-and-putatives/23567 "2007-01-07T19:23:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2007, 11:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/king-of-the-world-mix-winning-over-an-unresponsive-woman-with-mx147-and-putatives/23567/11 "2007-01-22T23:54:59Z")

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> [@King of the world mix: how MX147 kept a heavily sexual mix social and open](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/king-of-the-world-mix-how-mx147-kept-a-heavily-sexual-mix-social-and-open/1454/9):
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> Sigma, lots of good information here. I was wondering if you noticed anything about the diffusivity of P79. You say P83 diffuses fast? Are you using them with DPG/Neroli, or with other scents?
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> I am also curious as to the lower limit of P79, I seem to be getting good results with maybe 10 mcg amounts. I agree with accentuation of positive -none aspects with P79. It adds approachability in my opinion and more overt IOIs. But I have noticed it doesn’t last very long (~1 hour). I have P79 with Akuto. I am wondering if it needs refreshing every hour at very small amounts instead of putting all at the same time. Like say 2.5 mcg/hr, starting with an initial 10 mcg on you.
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> I also recall Tacitus’ post on using low P83, like 10 mcg tops, although he did later report results on 50 mcg P79/P83 combo.

All of my mones (with exception to TAA) are dissolved in [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/), with not other added scents.

I played around with lower amounts of P79 for awhile…5-15mcg range…the effects were decent, but not real obvious. I got ballsy and tried to OD on it and found really good results at 25mcg and up. The effects do seem to last a good while though…doesn’t have the longevity of androstenone, but certainly lasts a good 4 hours or so. Give it a try at higher amounts and see how it goes…might account for the difference in longevity.

I have a more concentrated bottle of P79 on the way…I’m gonna see how far I can take it.

P83 on the other hand…I haven’t been able to hit a successful amount with it…not without being used in conjunction with a lot of other mones anyawy. To me it almost feels like it carries the aggression of none without the sexual end (just an initial take on it). I can see where this might be beneficial to me…but likely at lower amounts.

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