# King of the world mix: winning over an unresponsive woman with MX147 and putatives

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2007, 8:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/king-of-the-world-mix-winning-over-an-unresponsive-woman-with-mx147-and-putatives/23567/13 "2007-01-24T08:32:40Z")

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> [@King of the world mix: how MX147 kept a heavily sexual mix social and open](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/king-of-the-world-mix-how-mx147-kept-a-heavily-sexual-mix-social-and-open/1454/9):
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> Sigma, lots of good information here. I was wondering if you noticed anything about the diffusivity of P79. You say P83 diffuses fast? Are you using them with DPG/Neroli, or with other scents?
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> I am also curious as to the lower limit of P79, I seem to be getting good results with maybe 10 mcg amounts. I agree with accentuation of positive -none aspects with P79. It adds approachability in my opinion and more overt IOIs. But I have noticed it doesn’t last very long (~1 hour). I have P79 with Akuto. I am wondering if it needs refreshing every hour at very small amounts instead of putting all at the same time. Like say 2.5 mcg/hr, starting with an initial 10 mcg on you.
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> I also recall Tacitus’ post on using low P83, like 10 mcg tops, although he did later report results on 50 mcg P79/P83 combo.

With P79, I feel there is a primary effect which maybe lasts for 30 minutes max of ‘let’s do it’, a burst of energy and excitement. Then there is another effect that lasts for a good couple of hours which is a focused, ‘personalising’ effect which make you feel you are really into a movie if you are watching one or you are really into a discussion if that is what is going on. I usually wear 12.5-25 mcg for these effects at a time and no more. I like the primary effect quite a bit - it has definitely paid off for me a couple of times when I wanted things to happen physically with women.

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Tacitus did mention that high doses of [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) do feel ‘heavy’. However he mentioned ‘greasy pig sex’😛 with 100 mcg of P83 and 30 mcg of P79. He definitely thought there was a somewhat erotic element to P83 for him. [The good Putatives so far](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-good-putatives-so-far/736)

Otherwise Ail mentioned a nice slo-mo focus to intimate encounters wearing 30 mcg of P83 (she liked combining it with P88): [MX141: everyone around me became agitated and kept their distance, anyone else?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx141/866)

SwingerMD had a very ‘interesting’ day wearing 60 mcg of P83: [P83... a nice little empathogen](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p83-a-nice-little-empathogen/646)

In that same thread, Carrie wore 50 mcg of P83 with a perfume on a night out and her husband was clearly activated.  
Carrie: “[P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) feels none-like to me; at least it makes me/us more dominant, edgy, impatient, uninhibited. I didn’t feel sexually aroused by wearing it alone (though I have before when wearing it with cops). W didn’t seem to be aroused by it either…”

Visionary

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