# Kittenland!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Journals\ **Created:** [January 6, 2008, 4:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094 "2008-01-06T16:44:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![jvkohl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jvkohl/32/1297_2.png) [@jvkohl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jvkohl)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2008, 2:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/81 "2008-02-17T02:35:49Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > I thought you’d, also, like to know when I wear Scent of Eros For Women…I look younger to _myself._ Looking in the mirror I saw the rosy lips and cheeks, _woohoo!_, and began pondering Tater’s question, “Have you noticed or do you think you look younger since you’ve started wearing pheromones?” Not an exact quote but close enough. I’ve been wearing pheromones from various manufacturers, for almost a year, individually and in various combinations. I’ve never felt that effect, from any of them, until I started wearing Scent of Eros For Women. Thanks for that. I’m glad to hear this. I’ve received a few other similar comments, but you’ve expressed it best. The effect on the woman wearing it is due to the fact that, in addition to the copulin formula, it contains androstenol–one of the active ingredients in Scent of Eros for men. Most fragrance products contain some form of a musky molecule, so we knew we couldn’t go wrong incorporating androstenol, which has a musky odor. We weren’t absolutely certain however, until more published research reports on androstenol’s effects turned up. > [@Bella](#): > > I’ll try less…but if I lose the self enhanced rosy glow…I’m goin’ back to a full pack! Personally, I wouldn’t cut back unless a trusted friend told me I was wearing too much. That may be due to the fact that I’ve never been with a woman who wore enough SoE/women to please me. Does this mean they were only out to please themselves? If so, I can only hope you’re different than all the others, no matter who you’re trying to please. James V. Kohl The Scent of Eros ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2008, 9:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/82 "2008-02-17T21:35:13Z")
> [@jvkohl](#): > > I’m glad to hear this. I’ve received a few other similar comments, but you’ve expressed it best. The effect on the woman wearing it is due to the fact that, in addition to the copulin formula, it contains androstenol–one of the active ingredients in Scent of Eros for men. Most fragrance products contain some form of a musky molecule, so we knew we couldn’t go wrong incorporating androstenol, which has a musky odor. We weren’t absolutely certain however, until more published research reports on androstenol’s effects turned up. > > Personally, I wouldn’t cut back unless a trusted friend told me I was wearing too much. _That may be due to the fact that I’ve never been with a woman who wore enough Scent of Eros/women to please me._ > > _Does this mean they were only out to please themselves? If so, I can only hope you’re different than all the others, no matter who you’re trying to please._ > James V. Kohl > The Scent of Eros I have no problem taking advantage of an opportunity. I will not take that advantage to the detriment or discomfort of others. My objective when wearing pheromones, and in life, is to enhance my own experience and that of others. If you actually express a desire to these women to wear more Scent of Eros For Women and they are not compliant, why do you think that is? As far as me being “diifferent from all the others”, IDK. I think it’s OK to please myself. If I feel good about myself, hopefully, it will enhance the experience of those I come in contact with. Howerver I enjoy pleasing those I care for. Unless the request is unreasonable or makes me uncomfortable, I would at least do my best to comply. Maybe you should try dating different women? 😃 Bella ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2008, 11:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/83 "2008-02-17T23:37:01Z")
> [@](#): > > Most people don’t realize that they should never smell the roll-on or gel-pack fragrance at the time of application. Hey, glad to see you two conversating! Now by the quote above, Mr. Kohl, you mean that a woman shouldn’t sniff her wrist immediately after application, correct? You are _not_ saying she should apply so little product that she can’t smell or detect the fragrance when applying. Agreed that androstenol is intensely youthifying. I mean, the incessant giddy chitterchattering that comes from an OD of nol is just like being in High School again–sometimes Jr. High, even! Yeeps! 😮 (If, for my sins, I ever do time in Purgatory, I expect it to be strangely similar to a never-ending Jr High gym class.) > [@](#): > > Well, I just got here, having resisted reading most journals until now. I should have known Kitten’s would be highly readable! I’m loving it so far. > > I’m a fan of Scent of Eros For Women … I prefer the roll-on, as I found the gel packs’ scent would evolve on me after a few hours in a way I didn’t like - no such problem with the roll-on, it stays fresh and true. With the gel packs I’d wear 1/4 to 1/2 pack at a time, with the roll-on maybe an 8-inch swath. > > My archetype test results totally took me by surprise: > > All hail—You are predominately a King or Queen! > You also possess aspects of the Lover, Warrior, and Magician personalities and your complete personality profile can be described as **61.5% King/Queen** 😮, 15.4% Lover, 15.4% Warrior, and 7.7% Magician.\* Welcome to the diary, Carrie. Thanks for the encouragement! Now I’m all smiling and blushing and stuff. 🙂 :o 😃 8 inches of SoE rollon it is! 16 for a full pack. That’s a lot of skin to cover! We’re talking opera length gloves all the way up the arms. Regarding your results. That’s pretty undeniable. You are quite the Queen there, Lady Carrie. No need to pink it up or squishify if you don’t want to. I say Work your Queenly self! (That lipstick stuff really is killer tho. No idea why it doesn’t get more press. Loreal Rosebud is absolute perfection.) ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2008, 11:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/84 "2008-02-17T23:45:10Z")
Well I just bought some of the SoE gel packs based on the things I’ve read in this journal. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 12:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/85 "2008-02-18T00:36:56Z")
Valentine’s was amazing, by the way. My paramour (guess that’s what I’ll call him since I still seem to choke when trying to call him a boyfriend) and I spent an extended weekender toghether. I could have gone phero naked, but I was too chicken. Bok bok! I kept it light and social most of the time. But I did bring the Pherofragrance as a backup. And I just couldn’t resist using it in the evenings. It’s like wearing the perfect strand of diamonds. Best possible finishing romantic touch. Very grown up and beautiful. Morning: [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) 2X (3-4 sprays) Afternoon: Scent of Eros Woman (big roll on strips on wrists) Evening: Pherofragrance (3 drops! That is a lot for me) You’ll note that I didn’t use heavy cops. Why? Well, I’m a bit perverse about my copulin usage. I usually like to wear cops around my targets in innocent, non-sexual situations. Getting a guy thinking raunchy in a completely inappropriate moment? It amuses me. * * * One other thing! I’m going back to school! Night college to finish my degree. I just looked at the course schedule to figure out what to register for and most of the professors are men. This is going to be _good_. Since I am a complete adult now and feel no compunctions about any ethics involved…I may get a chance to play a little “Hot For Teacher” game for real. Schweet. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![jvkohl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jvkohl/32/1297_2.png) [@jvkohl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jvkohl)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 4:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/86 "2008-02-18T04:25:41Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > If you actually express a desire to these women to wear more Scent of Eros For Women and they are not compliant, why do you think that is? They lack understanding, and know they will have a good time either way. > [@Bella](#): > > Maybe you should try dating different women? I’ve considered a science singles list, but it’s really a last resort. I’m a motorcycle enthusiast who doesn’t like riding in the cities, and that’s where most of the women in science are likely to be found–as opposed to in the hills of northern Georgia. James ---
**Author:** ![jvkohl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jvkohl/32/1297_2.png) [@jvkohl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jvkohl)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 4:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/87 "2008-02-18T04:32:24Z")
> [@Kitten](#): > > Now by the quote above, Mr. Kohl, you mean that a woman shouldn’t sniff her wrist immediately after application, correct? Yes, thank’s for helping to clarify this. Wherever it’s applied, no one–includes your significant other–should sniff it until at least a few minutes have passed. > [@Kitten](#): > > You are _not_ saying she should apply so little product that she can’t smell or detect the fragrance when applying. She’ll detect it with application, but shouldn’t deliberately sniff the application points for a few minutes. James ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 2:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/88 "2008-02-18T14:07:13Z")
> [@Kitten](#): > > Hey, glad to see you two conversating! Now by the quote above, _Mr. Kohl, you mean that a woman shouldn’t sniff her wrist immediately after application, correct? You are not saying she should apply so little product that she can’t smell or detect the fragrance when applying._ > [@jvkohl](#): > > _Yes, thank’s for helping to clarify this. Wherever it’s applied, no one–includes your significant other–should sniff it until at least a few minutes have passed._ > _She’ll detect it with application, but shouldn’t deliberately sniff the application points for a few minutes._ .. Ah ha…thwack! Thanks Kit! That’s why I said I’d try using less…never mind… See, you can’t leave us alone for a minute! ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 2:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/89 "2008-02-18T14:17:20Z")
> [@jvkohl](#): > > _They lack understanding, and know they will have a good time either way._ > I’ve considered a science singles list, but it’s really a last resort. I’m a motorcycle enthusiast who doesn’t the cities, and that’s where most of the women in science are likely to be found–as opposed to in the hills of northern Georgia. > James Ah, the burden of being a good date! ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2008, 2:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/90 "2008-02-18T14:55:43Z")
> [@Kitten](#): > > One other thing! _ **I’m going back to school!** _ Night college to finish my degree. I just looked at the course schedule to figure out what to register for and most of the professors are men. This is going to be _good_. Since I am a complete adult now and feel no compunctions about any ethics involved…_I may get a chance to play a little “Hot For Teacher” game for real._ Schweet. \*\*😉 That’s great _and_ great, fertile ground for testing! I’d say that’s an inappropriate, enough, situation for wearing cops…“Hot for Teacher”? yeah, more like “Teacher Hot for Kitten”! As I gaze into my crystal ball…I see straight A’s lining up…and extra credit…for _after school_ activities! 😃 🆒 Bella Oh, btw, _I’m starting class over in my_ journal…and there’s already one _bad boy_ who has to stay after class! You know the one…with the puppy dog eyes… ---
**Author:** ![kismet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc8723/32.png) [@kismet](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kismet)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2008, 1:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/91 "2008-02-19T13:39:20Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > when I wear Scent of Eros For Women…I look younger to _myself._ Looking in the mirror I saw the rosy lips and cheeks, _woohoo!_, and began pondering Tater’s question, “Have you noticed or do you think you look younger since you’ve started wearing pheromones?” Not an exact quote but close enough. I’m a bit late to this comment, but it resonated with me so I have to respond. I haven’t tried this Scent of Eros stuff (puts on list) but I have totally noticed that I look better TO MYSELF lately, even though I’m not particularly thinner, more stylish, or otherwise better looking than, say, last year. OK, I do have a better haircut, but I digress. This is wearing the combination of pheromones that I am starting to settle on as my favorite, that being MX-135 plus [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). You say “chemical induced self-delusion”, I say “bring it ON!” ---
**Author:** ![jvkohl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jvkohl/32/1297_2.png) [@jvkohl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jvkohl)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2008, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/92 "2008-02-19T16:52:03Z")
> [@kismet](#): > > … I have totally noticed that I look better TO MYSELF lately, even though I’m not particularly thinner, more stylish, or otherwise better looking than, say, last year. OK, I do have a better haircut, but I digress. This is wearing the combination of pheromones that I am starting to settle on as my favorite, that being MX-135 plus Instant Openness. You say “chemical induced self-delusion”, I say “bring it ON!” Use of lipstick and other cosmetic enhancement makes you look better to yourself, right? The “chemical induced self-delusion” you are bringing on with pheromone enhancement is even better. You’re bound to notice that you smell as good as you look, or should that be look as good as you smell? James V. Kohl The Scent of Eros ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 7:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/93 "2008-02-28T07:27:57Z")
So. Black Orchid by Tom Ford. Anyone else ever try it? I was at Sephora considering cover scents to dilute my latest [unscented pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/stealth-unfragranced/) when I came across the Black Orchid perfume. Such a mysterious fragrance! Very deep and Georgia OKeeffe-like. There’s a dark note to it that I kind of liked, but also found disturbing. And odd green notes that I didn’t much care for. And then like a purple powdery scent that draws you in. How can a scent be purple? No idea. But it is. The Sephora lady gave me a nearly full tester spritz of the stuff. I’d like to wear it to work, yet I know it’ll be commented on all day if I do… One other thing. I get the most compliments on my perfume from women when I happen to be wearing the perfume as a cover scent over copulins. Kinda interesting. I tend to think that women subconsciously like cops almost as much as men do, but without the directly sexy vibe. ---
**Author:** ![LaurieNY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@LaurieNY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LaurieNY)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2008, 7:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/94 "2008-02-28T07:45:45Z")
ITA with that. I love to wear them; they give me SUPER confidence. ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [February 29, 2008, 1:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/95 "2008-02-29T01:50:44Z")
> [@Kitten](#): > > One other thing. I get the most compliments on my perfume from women when I happen to be wearing the perfume as a cover scent over copulins. Kinda interesting. I tend to think that women subconsciously like cops almost as much as men do, but without the directly sexy vibe. I also get a **ton** of compliments on whatever scent I’m wearing from women when it is covering pheros and/or copulins. The only exception to this is one haughty lady I work with who really dislikes me for reasons unknown (she’s new, and I’ve never really spoken to her so I have no idea what the deal is with her). ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 4:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/96 "2008-03-01T16:48:03Z")
> [@](#): > > The only exception to this is one haughty lady I work with who really dislikes me for reasons unknown (she’s new, and I’ve never really spoken to her so I have no idea what the deal is with her). She might be intimidated by you. There was this one lady at my last job who I think may have been wearing pheromones. She had everyone wrapped around her pinky finger–sooo much praise for her and everyone seemed to think she was such a nice good person. I got kind of caught up in it too. But when I stepped back, I couldn’t really see a work reason for why everyone was so enthralled. She was pretty efficient, but not a top performer. She just had an air about her that said competence and sexiness combined. Pretty compelling. I think that her natural pheromones must have combined with her manners to create this reputation. Or…she wore extra pheromones. MX134, or something similar, in particular. Wouldn’t be too surprised if she did. The reason why I tell you about this lady is that I was intimidated by her a bit. And I kind of avoided her, even tho I said nice things about her behind her back. It was like she was overwhelming to be around and it was hard to stay objective…Especially since I needed to give her deadlines etc. So, of course, your aloof woman may just be a snot who doesn’t like you. But she _may_ see you the way I saw this woman at my work, and be overwhelmed by your pheromony goodness. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2008, 11:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/97 "2008-03-01T23:15:50Z")
> [@Kitten](#): > > \*\*\*She might be intimidated by you. \*\*\*\*\*\*So, of course, your aloof woman may just be a snot who doesn’t like you. \*\*\* > [@ariadne](#): > > I also get a **ton** of compliments on whatever scent I’m wearing from women when it is covering pheros and/or copulins. _**The only exception to this is one haughty lady I work with who really dislikes me for reasons unknown (she’s new, and I’ve never really spoken to her so I have no idea what the deal is with her).**_ ariadne, sometimes no matter what you say or do some women just aren’t gonna like you. Even when you go out of your way to extend yourself to them. Women can be highly competitive, especially with each other. Often seemingly for no good reason…at least one that’s not obvious to _you_. You’re too pretty, bright and cleaver for her and if you’re good with men _and_ they’re attracted to you and like you? Then you’re really in trouble. Take it from someone who knows _that_ drill…all too well. 🙄 Happens to all of us…even over the internet! LOL. Girls, especially, don’t like ‘stars’ that shine brighter than they do. They become defensive and threatened and often there’s not much you can do because their ‘fear’ and inate competitiveness over takes them and effects their behavior towards you. Though the pheromones can help. God I wish Androidics would make more MX140. That’s a terrific mix to lubricate women just like the one you’re talking about. Frankly, I could use a bit of it, _right now,_ myself! Unfortunately that’s when you gotta put on your ‘big girl panties’ and just deal with them. My advice, ariadne…don’t let it shake your confidence and don’t let the bitches get you down. I’m going to suggest you invest in some [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) to wear around her and use some Instant Openess. The Instant Female Magic may relax her a bit and the Instant Openness may allow her to feel a little happier in your presence and therefore she may be able to ‘see’ you as less threatening…worth a try. Also try complimenting her. Don’t make it up just so you have something to say…try to find someting you actually like, if you can, about this woman…and time…sometimes it just takes time to warm people up. I remember a particular instance when I’d worked for days completing a report. I knew it covered a subject that she really knew very little about and had no interest in outside of the fact that it was necessary to complete the article. That’s why _she gave it to me. My lady boss, at the time, had the option of awarding bonuses for good work completed in a timely manner. Bonus for me?..neh eh. Bonuses for everybody_ but me. Interesting too, as everyone else was very vocal about patting me on the back. Another problem compounded by the fact that _other_ people really liked me. 🙄 Yes, unfair and _really_ showed poor judgement on her part. But what can you do when the rewards lay solely in her jealous little hands? Sometimes no never mind _what_ you do…they just ain’t gonna like you. ☹ I got a job working for _a man_…who adores me. That’s what I did. No problem getting regular bonuses from him. Evidently he knows a good thing when he sees it. Not only that, he has enough insight to make good use of it. Smart fellow my boss…very smart. 🙂 Bella ---
**Author:** ![ariadne](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ariadne/32/770_2.png) [@ariadne](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ariadne)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 3:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/98 "2008-03-02T03:17:26Z")
Thanks for the responses everyone! This woman’s attitude is really not a big deal, just a head scratcher. She works in a different department, but there are no walls between departments where I work. Her group is based about ten feet from my desk! It’s just funny to me that she will talk to a lot of other people in what seems to be a jovial manner, yet scrunch her nose when she sees or walks past me like she smells something bad. Maybe it’s the pheromones! 😃 My apologies for hijacking your journal, Kitten! ---
**Author:** ![RAISIN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b19c9b/32.png) [@RAISIN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RAISIN)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 5:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/99 "2008-03-02T05:31:29Z")
Kitten, I Would Like Some Seduction Lessons Also. Want To Attract This Guy At Work. Would Like For Him To Run After Me Each Time He See’s Me. I Find Him So Irresistable ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2008, 10:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094/100 "2008-03-02T22:46:00Z")
> [@EDDRENA GRAHAM](#): > > Kitten, > > I Would Like Some Seduction Lessons Also. Want To Attract This Guy At Work. Would Like For Him To Run After Me Each Time He See’s Me. I Find Him So Irresistable If he ran after you every time he saw you, wouldn’t that be a little distracting? I mean, you couldn’t even go to the ladies room on your own… Kidding. Best ways to attract a guy: Wear clothes that show the best parts of your figure, but not all that much skin. (meaning: choose only one of the following to show at a time: cleavage, bare arms, or bare legs) Make sure your clothes show an attractive hourglass silhouette. Also, wear makeup. At a bare minimum go with eyeliner or shadow, mascara, and some sort of lip product. Get professional manicures if you possibly can. Color and cut of hair are not too important, but make sure your hair is well styled and extremely shiny. Work out regularly. Exercise gives you a glow and vibe that can’t be bought or faked. Smile at him a little more often and a little more slowly than normal. And hold his gaze when you talk to him. Every now and then, you can drop a subtle double entendre. But make sure it can easily be construed as innocent of sexual intent. Stroke your own arm or hand while talking to him, or carelessly (_not_ obviously!) caress an object like a cup or pencil. Let him catch you checking out his body. Don’t talk about anything that makes you seem insecure, pessimistic, or depressed. Guys are always checking to determine whether you’re “crazy,” and don’t relate well to too much intensity or complexity–until they’re already hooked. If something is bothering you, do not talk about it. Talk about things that energize you and make you happy or make you laugh. Pheromones: MX134, Instant Shine, and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) for at work (every so often you can sneak on a drop or two of EoW to heat things up) Does that help? Kitten [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094.md?page=4) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/kittenland/8094.md?page=6)